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just stop dude.. I suggest changing your forum name.

I keep thinking this is 3 drunk kids baiting .. slouched giggling with their heineken ... logged in over some brothers account.. or is this actually real?

I think wraithknights are badass but 3 really? thats half ur damn army in points cost I cant imagine needing anymore than 2 you were bashing on my list because I only had 4 WS and 2 WK fragons and bikes and you were saying that i COULDNT make any sort of competitive list with it but I have everything in ur list except 5 spiders and a 3rd WK?

morgoth wrote:
I'm having some doubts about my usual auto-include fire dragons when rolling with three WK @ 1850 points.

So this is a new idea:


3 Min DA Squad 195
3 Wraith Knight 720
2 Wave Serpent Shu Scatter 260
1 Wave Serpent Scatter 120
3 5 Warp Spiders 285
1 Farseer Bike MotlG 155
1 Naked BikeSeer 115


1850 points

I'd like to see holofields for the Serpents.
For this, I'd take two naked Jetseers.
Fire Dragons are not really needed in this list.

If you drop the 3rd Wraithknight from your original list, you can replace the naked Bikeseer with a Nightspinner, and now have points for a 4th Serpent.

Otherwise, not bad. Holofields are overrated on Serpents anyway, especially since Ignores Cover is a thing...and if you roll Shrouding, you already get a 2+. Don't listen to the haters, and good luck.

 Zagman wrote:
But I thought Wraightknights were Overcosted and not worth it compared to Land Raiders? And Wave Serpents got Nerfed hard and now suck?

Where did wave serpants get nerfed? I don't see anything on black library or gw other than 7th edition 1.0 FAQ.

Epartalis wrote:

 Zagman wrote:
But I thought Wraightknights were Overcosted and not worth it compared to Land Raiders? And Wave Serpents got Nerfed hard and now suck?

Where did wave serpants get nerfed? I don't see anything on black library or gw other than 7th edition 1.0 FAQ.

That was sarcasm.

No summon stone on your mantle seer? What are you? A Fluffbunny?!?!

Don't toy with my emotions with serpants. I want them to get a nerf so bad, that being said I'm not an eldar player so very biased.


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I should have gotten the sarcasm when you said land raiders were worth their points and wraithknights were.

Morgorth, just shut up. This is one of the reasons I don't play competitive 40k, its because people like you turn this (somewhat) good natured community into a gak stained, hate filled bitch fest. feth off

Um yeah. Great Necro brahs. This thread is from September 2014.

morgoth wrote:I'm having some doubts about my usual auto-include fire dragons when rolling with three WK @ 1850 points.

So this is a new idea:


3 Min DA Squad 195
3 Wraith Knight 720
2 Wave Serpent Shu Scatter 260
1 Wave Serpent Scatter 120
3 5 Warp Spiders 285
1 Farseer Bike MotlG 155
1 Naked BikeSeer 115


1850 points

That is a great start. The list I took to lvo was 3 knights, 3 serpents with holo and one with a dire avenger exarch, 3 jetbikes, 1 seer with mantle and bike and 2 6 man spider units.

wuestenfux wrote:

morgoth wrote:
Holofields cost so many points....

but are a live saver for your Serpents. You just have 3 of them.

Exactly

 wuestenfux wrote:

ConanMan wrote:
you can get 5 wave serpents and 3 wk for 1850 easily.. I think your list lacks way too much "dps" you are fragile if you are eldar you to be able to run the opponents list.. and you can't.... make the spiders 2 squads of 10, get rid of 2nd farseer. ...

Right.
However, 3 WK's are overkill.
You need to play aggressively.

Actually the 2nd farseer is great, currently I am testing 3 jetseers, I dropped both 6 man spider squads as I feel like they durdle around and alot of times don't have a clear role in alot of games.

3 wk are not just overkill they are a downright liability.. I've seen 3 die in 3 turns to termagaunts.. beside, they give out far too little dakka.. I personally run my eldar one side of the "middle" of the available LINE OF SIGHT BLOCKING table cover.. I basically expose my army only enough to see/[be in range of] less than half my opponents units.. you need enough dakka to run that half of the opponent's list into rubble.. kill all the things that can hurt you the most in reverse order.. spend a second turn mopping up then go the "other" side of the middle cover (there is always something)

Then can be, but if used right, even if you lose 3 by the time your opponent has killed them you are in a position to win the game with all your obsec units. 3 wks are also FANTASTIC for null deployment. You can also use them to dictate the flow of games, and some games they will just carry you to victory.

Currently I am running 3 jet seers, 3 edj units, 3 wks, 3 serpents with holo in 1850 and one dire avenger exarch is my warlord.

I am not sure if 2 or 3 jetseers is better as of now, but having up to 6 jetbike units for last min obj grabs is really nice. Being able to get presci for all 3 knights is great when you need it, it really helps my ability to crank out summoned units too. Plus having 3 mobile shreak platforms flying around is great for the mirror.