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While I'm not a fan of GTA, over the years it's become rather apparent the entire series is a spoof of action, crime, and thiller films. They take all those cliches, tropes, and stereotypes, gather them up in a single game, and spend the entire game lampooning the entire thing (They took it up a level in GTAV and began lampooning GTA). I'm not really sure how that can be characterized as anymore reckless than an episode of South Park, except maybe that GTA isn't openly advertised as satire.

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 CorporateLogo wrote:
Have you wondered what what Milo Yiannopoulos wrote about gamers in the past?

There's no doubt violent games play a part in the deeds of some wackos, such as Elliot "killer virgin" Rodger. Rodger didn't kill because the video games made violent, but the games did help to shape his violent fantasies. They provided a framework through which his online bloodlust turned into real-world slaughter.

As to whether a video game might make you any more likely to go out and commit a rape, the research says probably not. You were most likely going to do it anyway. But what's new about GTA Online, the thing that leaves me scratching my head and thinking these people must have something a bit wrong with them, is that these dorky deviants aren't just raping computer-generated characters, as has happened in some previous fames.

Because it's an online game they're modding, they get to rape other real-life players. Some of those other players are very young: GTA is rated 18, but has hundreds of thousands of teen addicts. Listen to the videos at Kotaku and judge for yourself how old some of the victims are.

The online version of the game, which had a chaotic launch plagued by technical snafus, has all but been abandoned by its developers, who are, I am told by those in the know, concentrating their efforts on the PC version and don't seem to care what's happening on their online platform.

But something tells me Rockstar wouldn't much care even if it had the resources to clamp down on the modding craze which enables users to modify the games way outside the parameters of the original programmer's vision. After all, this is a developer which itself launches games with secret shagging levels on them - then saturates future games with jokey references to the fact - and which hired Max Clifford to make sure its games caused the most outrage possible.

It's that brazen, sociopathic, adolescent attitude from Rockstar – founded in Scotland – that most people will find grating, together with a reckless lack of care about games that depict violent, public rape in quite granular detail. Hijacked by nerd rapists, GTA Online is now not only somewhere you wouldn't allow your children but it's somewhere no normal adult would want to go either.

Personally, I don't understand grown men wasting their lives playing computer games. It seems a bit sad to me. I mean, we've all been sucked in to a few rounds of Candy Crush, but if you want to shoot a gun, why not go to a rifle range? I suspect most people who play these games have never held a firearm in real life.



I hate this article because it goes against what it said in the beginning which is that there was no conculsive evidence to show a behavioral change as a result of video games. That is incredibly offtopic and I don't know why you even posted that article.

Anyone that claims that video games cause violent behavior or sexist behavior have not read all the studies which have been founded to be inclusive. You cannot test behavior change from an object in a scientific setting or a lab setting. They need to do it after a game is played. Not yanking out the cord in the middle of the game. that is usually when people get angry. Thats frustration and if they record that would corrupt the results of the experiment.

Any scientist who does do that needs to read up on some pyschological studies.

Me and my sister have opposite views on the whole video game violence thing. She says I am more use to violence. Ever since I am more confrontational than either of my siblings.

Is that because of video games or my personality. I say personality. Not because I enjoy video games. Because at the same time, I am also the most reserved of my family, and I only lend my voice if that occasion calls for it.

Because my experiences of being bullied have led me to be more confrontational as I do not take kindly to bullies or jerks.

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Sining wrote:
I don't think it's sexist in any way. You're assuming that they're doing this because they don't want to hire men cause they're men and not because it goes against their corporate branding. That's like saying it's totally racism for NSA not to hire native afghans that just moved to USA.

And what problems? You're coming from a side where the most vocal supporters have been saying "HEY, LEAVE ZOE ALONE. It's her body! She can sleep with all those men if she wants, even if she's in a relationship" and you're having issues with women WORKING in hooters for a job??

Also careful there with that last point. You're projecting a lot. Especially without any evidence for someone who keeps wanting to see the evidence.


Hooters did not originally hire men, they just didn't do it. Then came a lawsuit from SJW men, which lead to men being able to work for hooters.

It's surprisingly an apt comparison, If a company like silverstrings media is doing things we don't like, it can be changed.

I'm surprised the lawsuits haven't started yet, Everyone who submitted a game to IGN needs to sue. Those poor developers thought they had a chance at winning and gave up $100 in a false hope their game would be fairly reviewed.

If the games were fairly reviewed, that will be shown at trial, if not, the developers should at a minimum get their money back, and probably a bit more in damages based on the smear campaign that's going on.

 
   
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sirlynchmob wrote:
Sining wrote:
I don't think it's sexist in any way. You're assuming that they're doing this because they don't want to hire men cause they're men and not because it goes against their corporate branding. That's like saying it's totally racism for NSA not to hire native afghans that just moved to USA.

And what problems? You're coming from a side where the most vocal supporters have been saying "HEY, LEAVE ZOE ALONE. It's her body! She can sleep with all those men if she wants, even if she's in a relationship" and you're having issues with women WORKING in hooters for a job??

Also careful there with that last point. You're projecting a lot. Especially without any evidence for someone who keeps wanting to see the evidence.


Hooters did not originally hire men, they just didn't do it. Then came a lawsuit from SJW men, which lead to men being able to work for hooters.

It's surprisingly an apt comparison, If a company like silverstrings media is doing things we don't like, it can be changed.

I'm surprised the lawsuits haven't started yet, Everyone who submitted a game to IGN needs to sue. Those poor developers thought they had a chance at winning and gave up $100 in a false hope their game would be fairly reviewed.

If the games were fairly reviewed, that will be shown at trial, if not, the developers should at a minimum get their money back, and probably a bit more in damages based on the smear campaign that's going on.


There might be in the works.

I think IGN needs to rework its score.

If it wants keep the rating system thats fine they just need to be fair and not compare it to other games. Instead have a quality of a product hold it to a standard. Of the industry. Not to your own expectations.

If you do that then you might get a better review.

If you say the sound is terrible I don't know what you are comparing. If you say the graphics are bad. I don't know what you mean. In what way?

You need to get away from personal opinion and more objective writing. If you are writing a review talk about it and research what you are talking about. I am more qualified to write a review about a game because I know the work that goes in, and I respect that and I grade it based on how well it is created. And how they use that.

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The entire point of a review is that it's a personal opinion... (Hence why it's upsetting that instead of getting an opinion about a game's quality we get ad pieces that might as well have been written by EA's marketing department).

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 LordofHats wrote:
The entire point of a review is that it's a personal opinion...


Yes but their is a difference between someone who knows what they are talking about than one who doesn't.

If they say textures are messy compared to someone who says there is a graphical glitch. (An incorrect term in the industry.)

I can tell who actually knows what they are talking about.

There is a standard review process in the industry.

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 CorporateLogo wrote:
Have you wondered what what Milo Yiannopoulos wrote about gamers in the past?

There's no doubt violent games play a part in the deeds of some wackos, such as Elliot "killer virgin" Rodger. Rodger didn't kill because the video games made violent, but the games did help to shape his violent fantasies. They provided a framework through which his online bloodlust turned into real-world slaughter.

As to whether a video game might make you any more likely to go out and commit a rape, the research says probably not. You were most likely going to do it anyway. But what's new about GTA Online, the thing that leaves me scratching my head and thinking these people must have something a bit wrong with them, is that these dorky deviants aren't just raping computer-generated characters, as has happened in some previous fames.

Because it's an online game they're modding, they get to rape other real-life players. Some of those other players are very young: GTA is rated 18, but has hundreds of thousands of teen addicts. Listen to the videos at Kotaku and judge for yourself how old some of the victims are.

The online version of the game, which had a chaotic launch plagued by technical snafus, has all but been abandoned by its developers, who are, I am told by those in the know, concentrating their efforts on the PC version and don't seem to care what's happening on their online platform.

But something tells me Rockstar wouldn't much care even if it had the resources to clamp down on the modding craze which enables users to modify the games way outside the parameters of the original programmer's vision. After all, this is a developer which itself launches games with secret shagging levels on them - then saturates future games with jokey references to the fact - and which hired Max Clifford to make sure its games caused the most outrage possible.

It's that brazen, sociopathic, adolescent attitude from Rockstar – founded in Scotland – that most people will find grating, together with a reckless lack of care about games that depict violent, public rape in quite granular detail. Hijacked by nerd rapists, GTA Online is now not only somewhere you wouldn't allow your children but it's somewhere no normal adult would want to go either.

Personally, I don't understand grown men wasting their lives playing computer games. It seems a bit sad to me. I mean, we've all been sucked in to a few rounds of Candy Crush, but if you want to shoot a gun, why not go to a rifle range? I suspect most people who play these games have never held a firearm in real life.



What a bigoted, ignorant egit.

Grown men wasting our lives playing games?

We do it because it's fun, what more reasons do we need? If the time spent playing games entertains us, it's not wasted, no more than golfers, sports car enthusiasts, anglers, painters or people who read novels are wasting their time.

If you want to shoot a gun why not go to a rifle range?

Is this lunatic really suggesting that people should put down their controller, go out and receive training in how to use a lethal firearm? The OPPOSITE should be encouraged. I have absolutely no desire to shoot a real gun. I view a gun gun as a tool and a weapon, not a toy for my entertainment. (Not that I mean to denigrate those who enjoy shooting as a sport, I just have no desire to do it myself). A video game provides all the entertainment I need with regards to firearms . Anyway, I'd much prefer to shoot a bow than a gun, I tried archery as a kid and enjoyed it.
   
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 Asherian Command wrote:


There is a standard review process in the industry.


Given the multitude of score systems, and reviewer priorities (some obviously care about photo realism a lot more than they do about style) I'd say no. There is no standard process...

Reviews are personal opinions. Acting like they shouldn't be is to ignore what reviews are, not just in games but in every realm of media (not to mention ignoring the issue that we aren't even getting reviewer opinions at times).

There is no standard process and no fixed terminology. Not only that but knit picking 'textures are messy' vs 'has graphical glitches' is just a complaint over brevity. I don't even know why you would think that's an incorrect term. It's vague, but not incorrect.

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 LordofHats wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:


There is a standard review process in the industry.


Given the multitude of score systems, and reviewer priorities (some obviously care about photo realism a lot more than they do about style) I'd say no. There is no standard process...

Reviews are personal opinions. Acting like they shouldn't be is to ignore what reviews are, not just in games but in every realm of media (not to mention ignoring the issue that we aren't even getting reviewer opinions at times).

There is no standard process and no fixed terminology. Not only that but knit picking 'textures are messy' vs 'has graphical glitches' is just a complaint over brevity. I don't even know why you would think that's an incorrect term. It's vague, but not incorrect.


Glitch is an incorrect term. It is a bug, not a glitch. There are many other words to describe it. In the games industry we do not use the word glitch.

Glitch means something wrong with software, not a problem with a game itself.

I think there should be.

I mean movies are still opinion yet they are informative and they only reveal tiny details.

They give us a synopsis and rate people according to a set standard.

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Glitch means something wrong with software, not a problem with a game itself.


The game is software.

And that's not even the distinction.

A 'bug' is a fault concerning an input that results in an unintended or incorrect output (most exploits are bugs).

A 'glitch' is a a fault usually corrected by the program after a brief moment or after being reloaded (it's temporary). Most graphic oddities in games, are very accurately described as a glitch. And something can be both a glitch and a bug.

This is a video a friend made;




^That, is a glitch. A graphics glitch concern the weapon meshes to be specific (it is also a bug probably) because it goes away when the map reloads.

EDIT: And setting aside that computer science draws a distinction between a glitch and a bug, most people just use those words interchangeably to mean the same thing, which isn't that big a deal since the distinction won't really mean much to the user of a program.

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EDIT: And setting aside that computer science draws a distinction between a glitch and a bug, most people just use those words interchangeably to mean the same thing, which isn't that big a deal since the distinction won't really mean much to the user of a program.


Good point. But if you compare movie reviews to game reviews you can see a unprofessional-ism.

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 Asherian Command wrote:
I think this is a non-event. I think this is relevant, though. But for some reason, nobody is speaking about it.
Do you see why one would be relevant and not the other?

You do realize we have been talking about that the entire time, and Peregene has ignored that right?

No. No I do not.
 Bullockist wrote:
People like sex , no amount of figurative dressing people in grey overalls will change this

Many people like sex. In the right context. For instance, few people like sex at the funeral of a loved one, for some reason .
Are games the right context for it? Depend on the game, obviously. But most of the time, the answer is no. Beside, very few games include actual sex. All they include usually is titillating looks and poses from the female cast. That looks out of place, cliche, and terribly boring. Actual good games about sex, why the hell not?
 Bullockist wrote:
i'd like to add that most men in games seem to be attractive unless they are "character actors".

Uh, not in the same way as the women.
 Bullockist wrote:
This neutralisation of things is going to make games very boring, very boring.

If you call that boring, you have no soul .
Spoiler:

 Bullockist wrote:
no amount of anti sex feminism
[…]
I for one object to the demonisation of sex (and sexual attraction) , sex is natural and one of the driving forces of humanity.

Seriously, what the hell?
 Peregrine wrote:
All the "sex sells" attitude does is clutter up the game and contribute to giving gamers a reputation for being immature losers who obsess over imaginary women because they can't get any real dates.

When will people finally acknowledge that I may be an immature looser that cannot get any real date, but I do not obsess over imaginary women nonetheless, and focus on self-hating and self-pitying instead .
 Soladrin wrote:
Also, Hybrid, Peregrine, you are the guys who keep bringing up Anita and Zoe, this topic isn't about them.

.
No, we are not.
 CorporateLogo wrote:
Have you wondered what what Milo Yiannopoulos wrote about gamers in the past?

There's no doubt violent games play a part in the deeds of some wackos, such as Elliot "killer virgin" Rodger. Rodger didn't kill because the video games made violent, but the games did help to shape his violent fantasies. They provided a framework through which his online bloodlust turned into real-world slaughter.

As to whether a video game might make you any more likely to go out and commit a rape, the research says probably not. You were most likely going to do it anyway. But what's new about GTA Online, the thing that leaves me scratching my head and thinking these people must have something a bit wrong with them, is that these dorky deviants aren't just raping computer-generated characters, as has happened in some previous fames.

Because it's an online game they're modding, they get to rape other real-life players. Some of those other players are very young: GTA is rated 18, but has hundreds of thousands of teen addicts. Listen to the videos at Kotaku and judge for yourself how old some of the victims are.

The online version of the game, which had a chaotic launch plagued by technical snafus, has all but been abandoned by its developers, who are, I am told by those in the know, concentrating their efforts on the PC version and don't seem to care what's happening on their online platform.

But something tells me Rockstar wouldn't much care even if it had the resources to clamp down on the modding craze which enables users to modify the games way outside the parameters of the original programmer's vision. After all, this is a developer which itself launches games with secret shagging levels on them - then saturates future games with jokey references to the fact - and which hired Max Clifford to make sure its games caused the most outrage possible.

It's that brazen, sociopathic, adolescent attitude from Rockstar – founded in Scotland – that most people will find grating, together with a reckless lack of care about games that depict violent, public rape in quite granular detail. Hijacked by nerd rapists, GTA Online is now not only somewhere you wouldn't allow your children but it's somewhere no normal adult would want to go either.

Personally, I don't understand grown men wasting their lives playing computer games. It seems a bit sad to me. I mean, we've all been sucked in to a few rounds of Candy Crush, but if you want to shoot a gun, why not go to a rifle range? I suspect most people who play these games have never held a firearm in real life.

Yeah, I told Asherian Command about this when he posted an article that included a link to this “video games will make you a killer” article, as an example of when he agreed with “SJW”. He said that the article he originally posted should be judged on its own merit, not on what Milo had written before. I thought including a link to an article saying that video games makes you a killer was one of the article's merits .

"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 
   
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Yeah, I told Asherian Command about this when he posted an article that included a link to this “video games will make you a killer” article, as an example of when he agreed with “SJW”. He said that the article he originally posted should be judged on its own merit, not on what Milo had written before. I thought including a link to an article saying that video games makes you a killer was one of the article's merits .


Which article?

Where? WHERE?

And I said a game should be based on its own merits, not a journalistic interview.

I found the article kind of insulting

No, we are not.


Basically you are just dragging it off topic.

I mention zoe quinn and make fun of her. Because I can mock them for their decisions.

Antia mostly I just disagree with. I don't think she is involved, But I do find it kind of interesting that there are 'social justice warriors' thrown in the mix.

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 Asherian Command wrote:
Yeah, I told Asherian Command about this when he posted an article that included a link to this “video games will make you a killer” article, as an example of when he agreed with “SJW”. He said that the article he originally posted should be judged on its own merit, not on what Milo had written before. I thought including a link to an article saying that video games makes you a killer was one of the article's merits .


Which article?

Where? WHERE?

And I said a game should be based on its own merits, not a journalistic interview.

I found the article kind of insulting

You said “I judge the article for its own merits not for its past bits.”
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1050/611694.page#7190499

"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 
   
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
Yeah, I told Asherian Command about this when he posted an article that included a link to this “video games will make you a killer” article, as an example of when he agreed with “SJW”. He said that the article he originally posted should be judged on its own merit, not on what Milo had written before. I thought including a link to an article saying that video games makes you a killer was one of the article's merits .


Which article?

Where? WHERE?

And I said a game should be based on its own merits, not a journalistic interview.

I found the article kind of insulting

You said “I judge the article for its own merits not for its past bits.”
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1050/611694.page#7190499


But if it has a hidden agenda and has an underlying bias you bet I will get angry at the writer.


Wow someone took me out of context. Or you know took one bit and went with it without reading the rest of the post! Whoops!

Also thats from a locked thread. Interestingly enough XD

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If memory serves, a week or so ago Milo asked twitter for game suggestions. I believe there is a video floating around of his first time playing portal.

So, funnily enough, it looks like he is willing to do actual research as part of actual journalism

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So what do you folks think of Devi Ever? She does some great work. I was following her on Twitter for a bit... she used to be vehemently against #GamerGate but then she kind of became part of the 'movement'... I quickly unfollowed her when I learned of this. But then re-followed her because I sincerely do enjoy her work and I think some of the experiences she's had are interesting. Any way just thought I throw her name out to see if anyone had any thoughts on her. I'm going to check out some of her writings that explain some of her thoughts/experiences with #GamerGate. I'm still kind of hurt that she supports #GamerGate... but that's just being hurt... I'm also curious and will check on other perspectives (of course I kind of don't really enjoy how some of these perspectives are being expressed though).

BTW haha sorry for being an ass earlier. I was really bored at work. Besides... my mustache is soooo untwistable... its barely there...

Oh and so there isn't any confusion... I'll make it plain because I totally don't think it is plain in what I just typed above... (its probably not even there):

I stand by Zoe and Anita.
   
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So you stand by persons instead of causes?

   
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Sometimes yes... sometimes no... its all very situational... I try to be fluid... I look at something... assess... and see from there what I might need to do.

Some would call it being uncommitted... or maybe indecisive... or just being stupid... hahaha...

Part of it is because not everything is as clear cut as everyone would like to think it is. At least I don't think its as clear cut as everyone thinks it is.

EDIT:

Re: #GamerGate - I'm not totally against it... but it could be carried out a little better I think. Though some of the stuff Zoe has done has been a bit 'wacky'.

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djphranq wrote:
Re: #GamerGate - I'm not totally against it... but it could be carried out a little better I think. Though some of the stuff Zoe has done has been a bit 'wacky'.


And the Understatement Of The Year Award 2014 goes to...
   
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djphranq wrote:
Though some of the stuff Zoe has done has been a bit 'wacky'.


Wacky behavior can be very disconcerting.

Spoiler:

   
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I do concur...

Both sides (at least the 'obvious' sides) have been wacky.
   
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Back on topic:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/18/What-drives-the-angry-feminist-journalists-slating-GamerGate

In the words of Leigh Alexander, quoted in the above:

"Self-identified nerds are often so obsessed with their identity as cultural outcasts that they are willfully [sic] blind to their privilege, and for the sake of relatively-absurd fandoms — space marines, dragons, zombies, endless war simulations — take their myopic and insular attitudes to 'art' and 'culture' with tunnel-visioned, inflexible, embarrassing seriousness that often leads to homogeneity, racism, sexism and bullying."

Tempted to contact GW legal. . .

Also on a lighter note:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/scienceandtech/columns/forscience/12273-Gamergate-Controversy-Absent-Queens-in-Ant-Colonies

   
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 Asherian Command wrote:
But if it has a hidden agenda and has an underlying bias you bet I will get angry at the writer.


Wow someone took me out of context. Or you know took one bit and went with it without reading the rest of the post! Whoops!

Also thats from a locked thread. Interestingly enough XD

Well, you got the thread locked, not me, despite all the accusations that I wanted to have it closed . All those Twitter images .
And an article linking to another article from the same writer is hardly a “hidden agenda”. Because hidden. It is not hidden. As for the bias, where the hell do you expect objectivity ?
 VorpalBunny74 wrote:
If memory serves, a week or so ago Milo asked twitter for game suggestions. I believe there is a video floating around of his first time playing portal.

So, funnily enough, it looks like he is willing to do actual research as part of actual journalism

If that is research, I deserve a Nobel price. Or a Pulitzer.

"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 
   
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
But if it has a hidden agenda and has an underlying bias you bet I will get angry at the writer.


Wow someone took me out of context. Or you know took one bit and went with it without reading the rest of the post! Whoops!

Also thats from a locked thread. Interestingly enough XD

Well, you got the thread locked, not me, despite all the accusations that I wanted to have it closed . All those Twitter images .


Actually, I doubt that.

I think I was the one who attracted the attention of the Mods and provoked the use of the BanHammer in the last thread. I reported someone for what I thought was a rude personal attack, 5 min later the thread was locked. It may have been you, or someone else, it certainly wasn't Asherian.

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Okay, maybe it is you. Or just you broke the last straw. But it certainly was not me, I posted no image with text that was inappropriate .

"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 
   
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

If that is research, I deserve a Nobel price. Or a Pulitzer.

He is increasing his knowledge in a field he admits he knew little about.

What would you call that, if not research?

   
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Don't take the bait guys

My warmachine batrep & other misc stuff blog
http://sining83.blogspot.com/ 
   
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 VorpalBunny74 wrote:
He is increasing his knowledge in a field he admits he knew little about.

What would you call that, if not research?

A new hobby?

"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 
   
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Totalbiscuits last video had a nice quick dig at journalistic integrity in the opening minute. Good on him - as usual.

I really think this whole thing is going to escalate and help enforce better standards in the industry for which I'm grateful, and perhaps a greater shift away from sites to individuals. Like others here I stopped frequenting game review sites many years ago. I didn't really realize why, I just thought "this isn't useful to me anymore" without looking into it. Since then I've discovered youtube channels that give me exactly what I want - game coverage, far better than in the past where the presenters wear their bias and perspective in plain sight so you can analyse the material with that in mind. As TB says, you learn to trust the person not the site which is far more evident as you follow that person instead of a site. Sites are made of multiple people with different inherent bias, and an overall directive frequently that clashes with what we want - which is obvious since we're the product being sold to games devs (sites primary advertisers). On youtube we're still the product, but it's to third parties completely divorced from the content so misinformation is not required.

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