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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 06:33:14
Subject: Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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So I have a couple of each variant of Leman Russ:
- new LR comes with BC, Vanquisher, Nova and Exterminator, and exchangeable sponsons of all type ( http://bitzbarn.com/oscommerce/catalog/images/IGLemanRussSprue1.jpg)
- old LR comes with only a battle cannon, lascannon sponson and two heavy bolter sponsons ( http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/sprues/data/1738/medium/DSC00605.JPG)
- new LR Demolisher comes with big plasma, demolisher and gatling main cannons and all the exchangeable sponsons ( http://bitzbarn.com/oscommerce/catalog/images/IGPunisherSprue1.jpg)
and I want to have a set of main cannons which I can use with any of the variants.
Here are the problems:
- In new LR Demolisher, there is a stub bit for the main cannon which have the lower shield on it. You need this for any main cannons to put on the turret, and GW of course only supplies a single piece of this bit.
- with old and new LR there is a small U like shape which needed for each cannon, there is a single piece of it in the kit
- the old LR's turret is smaller than the others, so the LR demolisher's cannons aren't/just barely fitting there
Was anybody able to find a solution to the problem above?
I'd like to avoid blue tac as I'd like to create a more reliable method, but I'm fine with magnetizing all the tanks. I think making exact copier of the "1 only per kit" pieces is illegal, so I'd like to avoid that too. Although scratch building those parts (like putting a blob of millyput there and filing it until looks good) without copying them may be legal, I'm not sure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 07:29:27
Subject: Re:Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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Fixture of Dakka
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I remember seeing a solution for a thing like this a while back. A guy had solved this problem by gluing sprue bars to the turrets that allowed him to attach them and rotate but wouldn't fall out.
I know that's kinda vague sounding.
I'll see if I can hunt it down. I'm sure it was here on Dakka somewhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 07:59:34
Subject: Re:Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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Snrub wrote:I remember seeing a solution for a thing like this a while back. A guy had solved this problem by gluing sprue bars to the turrets that allowed him to attach them and rotate but wouldn't fall out.
I know that's kinda vague sounding.
I'll see if I can hunt it down. I'm sure it was here on Dakka somewhere.
Attaching the turret isn't really the problem here, it already can be attached and rotated without any glue. The problem is, that I have three different types of leman russ, and I want to exchange the main cannons between them. So I want to add a gatling cannon to the turret of an old or new regular(nin-demolisher) LR.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 11:58:52
Subject: Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Putting a bad of Sprue on back of the gun itself at a slight upward angle will hold the gun in place very well, still allow a full traverse and be easily swappable.
The inverted U-shaped piece just slots over the gun barrels, so unless you're driving your Russes along a ceiling gravity should be all the adhesive to need. Just leave it loose and slot it into the gun of your choice when you play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 15:56:23
Subject: Re:Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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Navigator
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The Demolisher kit magnetizes pretty well. Attach one magnet inside of the turret on the part that swivels, and then cut out the nub on the turrets themselves and replace with a 1/4" magnet. For the new LRBT kit, I just bought bits for the other tops and built a spare autocannon and nova cannon. Going from battle cannon to vanquisher is a simple swapout. For the old-style Russ, I did my own sculpt of the turret and 3d printed it. I have a copy of it up on Shapeways, but they want quite a bit to manufacture it. PM me if you're interested in having me run a 3D print off for you on my own printer.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/09/12 19:12:04
SIUC Strategic Games Society, a Roleplaying/Tabletop/Card student organization/club at Southern Illinois University - Carbondale
Vermis wrote: Bronzefists42 wrote:I noticed that the plastic glue label recommends wearing something akin to a hazmat suit when handling the glue. I have been using it for years and never used gloves or anything nor do I know anyone who does. ShouldI be worried for my health?
Well, there's a slight risk of gluing something together with it. Only slight, mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 17:14:34
Subject: Re:Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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For the executioner kit, I did exactly what LoH said, its simple and easy. For the new leman russ kit, its a bit more tricky, what I ended up doing is:
Building the whole model, but leaving the turret top and bottom unglued
Cut the nubs off each side of the guns where they slot into the turret housing
Glue a magnet (i used 2x1mm neodymium disc magnets) onto one side of the weapon where the nub used to be
Glue another magnet to the inside of the turret housing where the nub would normally sit (this may require an ever so slight packing with green stuff
Glue the nub cut from the other side of the weapon into the place where it would normally sit in the turret housing.
Now you are able to swap weapons by cutting off the nubs on each side and gluing a magnet to one side of each weapon. All you need to do to change them is take the top of the turret off, change the weapon, and put it back on.
I'll get some pictures up of mine soon, hope it might help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 18:01:04
Subject: Re:Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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Navigator
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Bobug wrote:
Now you are able to swap weapons by cutting off the nubs on each side and gluing a magnet to one side of each weapon. All you need to do to change them is take the top of the turret off, change the weapon, and put it back on.
I'll get some pictures up of mine soon, hope it might help!
Yeah, I didn't want to go through the hassle of extra-delicate models on the table. You can usually find the turret sans gun for the standard russ for a couple USD on fleabay.
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SIUC Strategic Games Society, a Roleplaying/Tabletop/Card student organization/club at Southern Illinois University - Carbondale
Vermis wrote: Bronzefists42 wrote:I noticed that the plastic glue label recommends wearing something akin to a hazmat suit when handling the glue. I have been using it for years and never used gloves or anything nor do I know anyone who does. ShouldI be worried for my health?
Well, there's a slight risk of gluing something together with it. Only slight, mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/13 10:00:34
Subject: Re:Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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Thanks for the answers.
Magnetizing the barrel to a turret is one of the better options, but it has a few problems. I have 2 new LR demolishers, 1 new LR, and a couple of old ones. This gives me 1 of each regular LR cannons (Nova, auto, BC, Vanq), and 2 Demolisher cannons (Demo, Plasma, Gatling). If I magnetize all turrets and cannons, then I exchange the cannons of one specific type of tank, so I can swap the demolishers gatling cannon with a plasma or demolisher, but I can't have all the 6 demolisher type cannons attached to my Russes. It's because the demolisher comes with a single bit of cannon stub, which has the nubs to fit in the turret and the lower shield for the cannon. So I either need to get a couple (like 6) of those bits (but they are sold only along with the turret for around $7-10), or I build them myself. Either making exact copies (which likely not be legal), or scratch build them (which may be legal).
Btw what's the thin line between illegally copying copyrighted stuff, and scratch building legally the very same stuff but a bit differently?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/13 10:12:03
Subject: Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Scratch building anything is 100% legal, there's no reason why you shouldn't. Even if that scratch build uses actual GW parts, you're not doing anything wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/13 11:01:16
Subject: Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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Paradigm wrote:Scratch building anything is 100% legal, there's no reason why you shouldn't. Even if that scratch build uses actual GW parts, you're not doing anything wrong.
The point is, I need to scratch build something that is used like gw parts, but not them  Even if it will incorporate a genuine gw main cannon, I'll still need to add a blob of milliputy for the cannon stub and a slab of polistirole.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/13 11:11:49
Subject: Leman Russ - How to exchange Main cannons between Leman Russ, LR Demolisher and Old LR
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Zsolt wrote: Paradigm wrote:Scratch building anything is 100% legal, there's no reason why you shouldn't. Even if that scratch build uses actual GW parts, you're not doing anything wrong.
The point is, I need to scratch build something that is used like gw parts, but not them  Even if it will incorporate a genuine gw main cannon, I'll still need to add a blob of milliputy for the cannon stub and a slab of polistirole.
Yep, perfectly legal! The only illegality with this type of thing would be making casts of the actual parts and reproducing them, and even then, no one would know when they're painted.
Making your own turret mounting to use on a GW kit is every bit as legal as using an Anvil Industry head on a GW marine, building your own Killa Kan from scratch, or using a Mantic Marine as a Guardsman.
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