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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 16:32:43
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Would it be the greatest disaster ever, or would they fail to start it and kick it 'til their feet hurt?
Imagine someone like Orkimedes or Mogrok getting to it, they are smart enough I think.
Countless starsystems lost as some ork is dancing around and putting out the lights with wild abandon..
If the Orrery really is the most horrible weapon in the galaxy, would it satisfy the need for dakka of the ork looting it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 17:00:25
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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I doubt it's even possible for Orks to loot Necron tech, I don't believe it's ever been done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 17:05:53
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Wyzilla wrote:I doubt it's even possible for Orks to loot Necron tech, I don't believe it's ever been done.
If not, I suppose that they could at least get inside of the Orrey and start fiddling with things.
Which would, most likely, be disasterous for many, many planets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 17:26:54
Subject: Re:What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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they'd proably break it
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 17:32:25
Subject: Re:What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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It would simply rely on their own confidence. If they think they can crack it, then their collective will makes it work. If they don't think they can crack it, then they will fail.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 17:55:23
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Squishy Squig
Wales!
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Either way, it will be really, really funny.
And yes, personally I think it would be enough dakka...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 17:56:03
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Humorless Arbite
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Oh my God......
[Warboss Walks into the Celestial Orrery Chamber]
Oi! Wots wiv all dese flashy lights?
[Starts tapping the dots to see if anything happens]
Nuffing's Happening!
[Stars start exploding all over the galaxy]
WOT A WASTE OF A WAAAAGH! We jus got dis fing and itz a pyle o scrap.
Letz go ladz and ave anuver Waaagh somewhere.
[The Warboss's fiddling has screwed up the balance of the entire galaxy and all of the stars chain react and explode]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 18:10:08
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
The Internet- where men are men, women are men, and kids are undercover cops
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/09/17 18:11:47
Jon Garrett wrote:Perhaps not technically a Marine Chapter anymore, but the Flame Falcons would be pretty creepy to fight.
"Boss, we waz out lookin' for grub when some of them Spice Marines showed up and shot all the lads."
"Right. Well, did you at least use the burnas?"
"We tried, but the gits was already on fire."
"...Kunnin'." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 18:14:56
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Which are just playermade models, mind you.
No trace in the fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 18:44:11
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Necrons tech is it even useble by a non necron? Ie encoded or the necrons metal acts as a counter barrier to hacking and repurposing.
Yes phase blades I believe are necrons in origin but there swords not galaxey controlling arrays. Anyway if there firepower match's impotence . how much did it take to kill the world engine, even then it took planet busting weapons to destroy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 19:54:25
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
The Internet- where men are men, women are men, and kids are undercover cops
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Ashiraya wrote:Which are just playermade models, mind you.
No trace in the fluff.
Is there much fluff on Orks vs Necrons?
Might be why.
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Jon Garrett wrote:Perhaps not technically a Marine Chapter anymore, but the Flame Falcons would be pretty creepy to fight.
"Boss, we waz out lookin' for grub when some of them Spice Marines showed up and shot all the lads."
"Right. Well, did you at least use the burnas?"
"We tried, but the gits was already on fire."
"...Kunnin'." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 20:38:21
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Unless there is direct evidence of it in the lore or by word of GW, we have absolutely no reason to believe it is possible. If it's just the result of little Ork fluff, then too bad for the Orks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 21:12:44
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Nah, if the other lore doesn't contradict the Orks proclivity for looting, then they can loot it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 21:26:10
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Melissia wrote:Nah, if the other lore doesn't contradict the Orks proclivity for looting, then they can loot it.
Yeah, I agree. Not all Necron tec explodes or teleports.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 21:30:31
Subject: Re:What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Dakka Veteran
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Let's at least agree on what the term means. Looting is just the act of taking ownership and then using it for their own means. Taking ownership is the easy part - of course Orks can in principle do that, by the usual violent means. The question is whether they can operate a highly advanced Necron machine or weapon, or even recognize what it is. A tesla gun? Well if it comes with a trigger, then sure they can probably loot it, barring any odd fail-safe mechanisms to prevent the weapons falling into non-Necron hands. A Monolith? Maybe - depending on the user interface.
The Celestial Orrery though? From the description on Lexicanum, I doubt the Orks would even realize what it is, let alone how to work it. They'd likely burn it down or strip it for metal parts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 21:39:50
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Melissia wrote:Nah, if the other lore doesn't contradict the Orks proclivity for looting, then they can loot it.
Necron tech, similar to Eldar tech, is wholely unrecognizable compared to the Imperium's technology. Unless it has feats for it, then it can't do it, quite simple. Simply because something is capable of scavenging the tech of one race by no means at all they are capable of looting something that evolved millions of years ago under the care of a different species and is laughably more advanced than the tech they normally work off as a parasite.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 21:44:53
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Wyzilla wrote: Melissia wrote:Nah, if the other lore doesn't contradict the Orks proclivity for looting, then they can loot it.
Necron tech, similar to Eldar tech, is wholely unrecognizable compared to the Imperium's technology. Unless it has feats for it, then it can't do it, quite simple. Simply because something is capable of scavenging the tech of one race by no means at all they are capable of looting something that evolved millions of years ago under the care of a different species and is laughably more advanced than the tech they normally work off as a parasite.
Didn't lukas the trickster "loot" an eldar pistol? And i'm sure guardsmen have picked up and used eldar weapons before.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 21:46:36
Subject: Re:What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If the Orks did learn how to use it why would they? It removes all of the fun (for them) from fighting. The only "in character" thing I could see them doing is targeting stars then telling the galaxy where they are so they could have a really propa scrap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 22:00:19
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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kinratha wrote: Wyzilla wrote: Melissia wrote:Nah, if the other lore doesn't contradict the Orks proclivity for looting, then they can loot it.
Necron tech, similar to Eldar tech, is wholely unrecognizable compared to the Imperium's technology. Unless it has feats for it, then it can't do it, quite simple. Simply because something is capable of scavenging the tech of one race by no means at all they are capable of looting something that evolved millions of years ago under the care of a different species and is laughably more advanced than the tech they normally work off as a parasite.
Didn't lukas the trickster "loot" an eldar pistol? And i'm sure guardsmen have picked up and used eldar weapons before.
Which doesn't do much at all, looting isn't just taking it, it's re-purposing the weapon so you can use it. You can pick up and fire a shuriken pistol, but good luck getting more ammunition for it. And with necron gear, it's highly possible that they don't even have buttons to push.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 22:52:33
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Melissia wrote:Nah, if the other lore doesn't contradict the Orks proclivity for looting, then they can loot it.
In fact, if they knew what the Celestial Orrery was, then at some point a Mek would come along who knows how to make a Celestial Orrery Remote Kontrol. And if he believed it would work, it would work. Automatically Appended Next Post: Wyzilla wrote: Melissia wrote:Nah, if the other lore doesn't contradict the Orks proclivity for looting, then they can loot it.
Necron tech, similar to Eldar tech, is wholely unrecognizable compared to the Imperium's technology. Unless it has feats for it, then it can't do it, quite simple. Simply because something is capable of scavenging the tech of one race by no means at all they are capable of looting something that evolved millions of years ago under the care of a different species and is laughably more advanced than the tech they normally work off as a parasite.
orks do not required understanding to loot something. They do not even required understanding to build something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 22:56:38
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Wyzilla wrote:I doubt it's even possible for Orks to loot Necron tech, I don't believe it's ever been done.
They did loot a Doomsday Ark once.
The mek in charge turned it into a rather effective bomb
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 22:57:02
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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The Orks fought the Necrons during the War in Heaven. Meks understand, on a genetic level, Necron technology... and anyone else's technology, for that matter.
Orks can loot anything. Anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 23:42:56
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Orks can even loot Tyranids, as we all know.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/17 23:43:21
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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To be fair, it's little more than a gag at this point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/18 00:22:50
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Actually, that one has basis in old fluff when there was Tyranid Squigs that Orks tamed...
So yes, Orks did infact at one point "loot" Tyranids.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/18 00:59:25
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Wyzilla wrote:
Unless there is direct evidence of it in the lore or by word of GW, we have absolutely no reason to believe it is possible. If it's just the result of little Ork fluff, then too bad for the Orks.
In some franchises that's the way to approach it, but not in 40k. Regardless of how you feel about 40k fluff (good, bad, ugly, er-mah-gerd-y), GW basically designed it so that most anything can happen and all sorts of player ideas / desires can be cannon.
That said, with how big the galaxy is, it has most certainly happened somewhere. At least one Waaaagh or warband has stumbled across a necron tomb which failed to activate / had corrupted systems, and they went on their merry way looting it and toying around with the stuff.
Also, in the Necron codex itself there's an entry on Orks looting Necron stuff. An Overlord gave a waaagh (or warband - can't remember which) 9 Doomsday Cannons.. Or whatever the dual-kit for the Ghost Ark is, as payment to simply leave his world the feth alone because it was waking up slowly and not ready for a fight. The Orks left with their new toys and conquered a planet with them, after which time the big mek got to tinkering with them. I mean, he tinkered wrong and opened their containment so the entire planet was vaporized, but this right here is your 'precedent' for Orks being able to get their hands on Necron tech.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/18 02:13:41
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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They'd blow themselves up along with the Orrery, completely accidentally of course
after blowing up a few for fun XP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/18 07:45:29
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Actually, that one has basis in old fluff when there was Tyranid Squigs that Orks tamed...
So yes, Orks did infact at one point "loot" Tyranids.
How many years ago was this?
It appears to have been retconned to hell and back, as squigs now are described as fully orkoid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/18 07:59:14
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Ashiraya wrote: ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Actually, that one has basis in old fluff when there was Tyranid Squigs that Orks tamed...
So yes, Orks did infact at one point "loot" Tyranids.
How many years ago was this?
It appears to have been retconned to hell and back, as squigs now are described as fully orkoid.
It was back in second edition I believe. But yeah, it -has- been retconned. Squigs are just straight orkoid now.
That said, when we get down to brass tacks.. Orks could probably loot a crippled carnifex and some other beasties with ease. Just find a big gribbly that's not a synapse broadcaster (I.E. stupid), get a dok to shove a bunch of wires in its brain, and then have the mek retro-fit the thing. Whilst the whole "looted carnifex" thing is a joke, it's far from impossible (or improbable) in the 40k setting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 05:01:20
Subject: What would happen if the Celestial Orrery got looted by orks?
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There is no doubt that Orks Meks would, maybe after a while, understand it.
Because they are designed to understand any tech.
Designed by a more (far) advanced race then the Necron or Eldar.
Orks can also loot and use about anything, even if it should not work, even most ork weapons should not work based on human analysis.
But they do, and with a lot of noise too ;-)
What would happen is less predictable though...
Destruction is fun to orks, but a battle is more fun and a smart Warlord that thinks a bit (Bad Moon, Blood Axe) could realise that the device could be enough leverage to rule (= oppress) the entire galaxy.
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