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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 17:20:38
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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AFAIK that didn't happen at all in the books, poser.
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For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 17:23:48
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Actually, in a Dance of Dragons he was castrated a bit. I already forgot the details, but I do recall a bit of genital torture.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 18:46:40
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Bishop F Gantry wrote: whembly wrote: d-usa wrote:So nerds are just like any other subgroup?
Sports fan get mad if you like other teams. They get even more mad if you *gasp* like other sports! And woe to those that didn't follow Team X since 1994 and just started to follow in 2004 because they are bandwagon fans!
Yeup.
Oh... don't forget about the Fantasy Leagues.

Technically cosplayers aswell...
Nice Shirt Ronaldo!!
Im sure no male has ever been exposed to violence or threatened in GoT...
LARPers too in some cases.
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insaniak wrote:Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 19:37:01
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Co'tor Shas wrote:I have lived through stereotypes, bulling, and ignorance throughout my entire life
You kidding, right? Feels a bit… melodramatic.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 19:40:55
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 19:43:40
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Dakka Veteran
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He pours his heart out and THAT'S your response?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 20:39:55
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Well, yes. Because as a gamer, I have a hard time imagining his experience as really that bad. But maybe there is an explanation, for instance if he lives in an environment very different from mine. Hence the question. Personally, I had way, way more annoying reactions when I tell people I am vegetarian, or that I do not drink alcohol, than when I mention I play video games.
I would add to that that if he can “throw off the shackles of normalcy [and] social norm” without having society make him crawl into a corner to cry his pain away, he is pretty damn lucky, but I will personally go for social norm and normalcy.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 20:49:56
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
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Well, yes. Because as a gamer, I have a hard time imagining his experience as really that bad. But maybe there is an explanation, for instance if he lives in an environment very different from mine. Hence the question. Personally, I had way, way more annoying reactions when I tell people I am vegetarian, or that I do not drink alcohol, than when I mention I play video games.
I would add to that that if he can “throw off the shackles of normalcy [and] social norm” without having society make him crawl into a corner to cry his pain away, he is pretty damn lucky, but I will personally go for social norm and normalcy.
I live in mid-state NY, where being a nerd means that you get bullied relentlessly. It was pretty bad, so much so that it affected my relationships and work. People are cruel when nobody stops them. I am not masculine. I am not athletic. I love books. I play MTG. I don't care about popular culture. That singles me out. I am possibly the nerdiest kid in existence, and I reacted to the bullying, which made it worse. If someone knows they can get a reaction out of you, they will push all that much worse. I finally figured out that, I don't have to care what people think of me, but I still hear it. Honestly, I hated the bullying, but I would not be who I am today without it.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 21:05:59
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Co'tor Shas wrote:I am not masculine. I am not athletic. I love books. I play MTG. I don't care about popular culture.
Me neither. When I entered middle school, clamoring that I hated football (soccer for you Yankees) was a pretty damn bad move. I was taken last at every sport too. I found myself quite isolated during the whole middle school, high school to a lesser degree, and even afterward. But as a matter of fact, that was likely not because of me being geek because I found myself basically surrounded with geeks, learning computer science at the ÉNS…
Now, when you say “all your life” and speak of work, how old are you and in which kind of workplace are people bullying other people over nerdiness?
Also, how did anyone ever told you personally that he or she thought you were sexist because you liked video games?
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 21:12:39
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Co'tor Shas wrote:I am not masculine. I am not athletic. I love books. I play MTG. I don't care about popular culture.
Me neither. When I entered middle school, clamoring that I hated football (soccer for you Yankees) was a pretty damn bad move. I was taken last at every sport too. I found myself quite isolated during the whole middle school, high school to a lesser degree, and even afterward. But as a matter of fact, that was likely not because of me being geek because I found myself basically surrounded with geeks, learning computer science at the ÉNS… Now, when you say “all your life” and speak of work, how old are you and in which kind of workplace are people bullying other people over nerdiness? Also, how did anyone ever told you personally that he or she thought you were sexist because you liked video games?
I'm 18. All my life isn't exceedingly long, but it is for me. I never said workplace (I have yet to have a full time job). I think you might be assuming a bit here. I'm a first year college student. I have not been called sexist to my face, but have been in a discusion over the srkeesian thing. It's just an example.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 21:30:34
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Hallowed Canoness
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This explains a lot.
Expect a lot of positive change coming your way.
Co'tor Shas wrote:I have not been called sexist to my face, but have been in a discusion over the srkeesian thing.
A discussion on this with non-gamers  ? How did this happen?
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 21:35:55
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
This explains a lot.
Expect a lot of positive change coming your way.
Co'tor Shas wrote:I have not been called sexist to my face, but have been in a discusion over the srkeesian thing.
A discussion on this with non-gamers  ? How did this happen?
Comments sections of course  . They are ridiculous. I corrected someone, and they came back at me with a ridiculous tirade. One of those people who are "feminist" but aren't actually. The types who get really angry about preserved injustices instead of real issues like pay inequality.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 21:49:51
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Hallowed Canoness
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When you start complaining about what people say in comment sections of internet articles, it is usually a good sign that you are actually pretty lucky to have nothing worse to worry about  .
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 21:50:51
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
When you start complaining about what people say in comment sections of internet articles, it is usually a good sign that you are actually pretty lucky to have nothing worse to worry about  .
Just an example. Mostly, I wanted to get my point across about how people generalize.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 21:51:19
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Co'tor Shas wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: This explains a lot. Expect a lot of positive change coming your way. Co'tor Shas wrote:I have not been called sexist to my face, but have been in a discusion over the srkeesian thing.
A discussion on this with non-gamers  ? How did this happen?
Comments sections of course  . They are ridiculous. I corrected someone, and they came back at me with a ridiculous tirade. One of those people who are "feminist" but aren't actually. The types who get really angry about preserved injustices instead of real issues like pay inequality. It's a comment section; of course it's going to be like walking necked into a honey badger pen, coated in jam.
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What I have
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~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 21:57:52
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Co'tor Shas wrote:Just an example. Mostly, I wanted to get my point across about how people generalize.
Trust me, it could be so much worse!
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 01:55:29
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Oberstleutnant
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It looks like there may have been more to the whole "4chan against Emma Watson" thing: The people behind the "Emma Watson your next" thing, currently trying to frame 4chan, might be a company called rantic. Seems like it's a company that basically creates drama and then profits from it. Or perhaps they were doing it at the behest of some third party. What else have they done? Evidence in the thread I linked. Wait for more evidence before completely freaking out though. The research is in progress. If you can help them out, by gathering and (as importantly) archiving evidence, do so please. If this pans out, it looks like there are outside groups with agendas to push that's seriously impacting online/gamer culture which is pretty fethed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 02:00:17
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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They're probably working for Emma Watson. Go read a tabloid sometime. The whole reason those things exist is to be fuel for flame wars so people with too much time and dedication can argue over their favorite celebrities
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 02:17:48
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Co'tor Shas wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Co'tor Shas wrote:I am not masculine. I am not athletic. I love books. I play MTG. I don't care about popular culture.
Me neither. When I entered middle school, clamoring that I hated football (soccer for you Yankees) was a pretty damn bad move. I was taken last at every sport too. I found myself quite isolated during the whole middle school, high school to a lesser degree, and even afterward. But as a matter of fact, that was likely not because of me being geek because I found myself basically surrounded with geeks, learning computer science at the ÉNS…
Now, when you say “all your life” and speak of work, how old are you and in which kind of workplace are people bullying other people over nerdiness?
Also, how did anyone ever told you personally that he or she thought you were sexist because you liked video games?
I'm 18. All my life isn't exceedingly long, but it is for me. I never said workplace (I have yet to have a full time job). I think you might be assuming a bit here. I'm a first year college student.
I have not been called sexist to my face, but have been in a discusion over the srkeesian thing. It's just an example.
Buddy... I hate bullies too... I wear hearing aids and an avid gamer. Not a great combo in my school days.
Learn the zero feth given mindset. You'll go far dude
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 02:37:58
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Damn. I would not have guessed my analysis of Yonan was that much spot-on. I hear tinfoils hat protect from gaming journalists mind control devices!
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 03:44:01
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Damn. I would not have guessed my analysis of Yonan was that much spot-on. I hear tinfoils hat protect from gaming journalists mind control devices!
I shouldn't reply to you, but did you at least look at the evidence collected so far? "emmayouarenext.com is owned by a PR/marketing firm by the name of http://www.rantic.com/ " which funnily enough if you go there is now "Rantic Social Media Marketers. is currently undergoing scheduled maintenance."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 04:19:57
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Yonan wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Damn. I would not have guessed my analysis of Yonan was that much spot-on. I hear tinfoils hat protect from gaming journalists mind control devices!
I shouldn't reply to you, but did you at least look at the evidence collected so far? "emmayouarenext.com is owned by a PR/marketing firm by the name of http://www.rantic.com/ " which funnily enough if you go there is now "Rantic Social Media Marketers. is currently undergoing scheduled maintenance."
It appears foxweekly wanted to gain some clicks by creating a story and hired a painfully dumb pr firm. Problem is that it picked the wrong beast to be a scapegoat. Feminist agenda I highly doubt, really bad marketing ploy is very very likely. Or a really annoyingly clever troll as it is out of nowhere hitting all the right buttons at exactly the right time.
Also best part is how 4chan members spam the sight with racist, sexist and homophobic comments. -____- 4chan is never one to prove their stereotype wrong it seems.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 04:50:46
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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BrotherGecko wrote:Also best part is how 4chan members spam the sight with racist, sexist and homophobic comments. -____- 4chan is never one to prove their stereotype wrong it seems.
Did you meet Vivian James? edit: Rantic confirmed to be behind the 4chan/emma watson thing. Nerds our own worst enemy? Far from it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 12:03:32
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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This thing just gets more intresting day by day and I still don't have a clue...
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A Dark Angel fell on a watcher in the Dark Shroud silently chanted Vengance on the Fallen Angels to never be Unforgiven |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 12:20:05
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Oberstleutnant
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Yonan wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Damn. I would not have guessed my analysis of Yonan was that much spot-on. I hear tinfoils hat protect from gaming journalists mind control devices!
I shouldn't reply to you, but did you at least look at the evidence collected so far? "emmayouarenext.com is owned by a PR/marketing firm by the name of http://www.rantic.com/ " which funnily enough if you go there is now "Rantic Social Media Marketers. is currently undergoing scheduled maintenance."
So how was your analysis again?
http://www.rantic.com/
" We have been hired by celebrity publicists to bring this disgusting issue to attention. The recent 4chan celebrity nude leaks in the past 2 months have been an invasion of privacy and is also clear indication that the internet NEEDS to be censored. Every Facebook like, share & Twitter mention will count as a social signature -- and will be one step closer to shutting down www.4chan.org. "
Sincerely,
Rantic.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 12:29:18
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Shutting down 4chan, that's laughable. What they don't seem to understand is that 4chan s sort of like a blob of gunk with a very weird face, amorphous, impossible to destroy, kind of discusting, and often makes you laugh. No I don't n where I was going with that. I really need to start thinking about what I'm writing before I write it  .
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 12:32:03
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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The only thing that can kill 4chan is 4chan - and 4chan is destroying itself atm. Moot (the owner) basically switched camp in an attempt to monetize it and all the anons are abandoning ship to 8chan. Censorship doesn't go down too well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 12:32:57
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Co'tor Shas wrote:Shutting down 4chan, that's laughable. What they don't seem to understand is that 4chan s sort of like a blob of gunk with a very weird face, amorphous, impossible to destroy, kind of discusting, and often makes you laugh. No I don't n where I was going with that. I really need to start thinking about what I'm writing before I write it  .
It's basically a Shoggoth.
Except uncivilized.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 12:35:25
Subject: Re:Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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The best part is, if they shut down 4chan, they will just go somewhere else.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 12:45:24
Subject: Are geeks/nerds their own worst enemy?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Like 8chan.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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