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As I said, it's not a majority, But considering the extent of 'the fappening' and the extent of the sudden support for Watson, there will be some overlap. (For example, a guy my brother goes to school with. And I very very very very much doubt that he is the only person)
And again, the 4chan response to it is really really disgusting. The fact that people seem to think it's okay is not cool.
Maybe they're referring to the 4chan "emma talks about feminism, we post her nudes". 4chan however has been cleaned out by moot and is now "anti-gamergate" with gamergate threads completely banned as Moot tries to rebrand 4chan as edgy but safe populated by mods from his new group of friends... I'm sure you can guess the type of people they are.
Yes, 4chan is no longer associated with GamerGate. That was moved over to 8chan.
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Maybe they're referring to the 4chan "emma talks about feminism, we post her nudes". 4chan however has been cleaned out by moot and is now "anti-gamergate" with gamergate threads completely banned as Moot tries to rebrand 4chan as edgy but safe populated by mods from his new group of friends... I'm sure you can guess the type of people they are.
I'm not quite sure how you managed to turn 4chan members threatening to leak personal photos of Emma Watson into an attack on journalists/SJWs, but you did. Congratulations.
Maybe they're referring to the 4chan "emma talks about feminism, we post her nudes". 4chan however has been cleaned out by moot and is now "anti-gamergate" with gamergate threads completely banned as Moot tries to rebrand 4chan as edgy but safe populated by mods from his new group of friends... I'm sure you can guess the type of people they are.
I'm not quite sure how you managed to turn 4chan members threatening to leak personal photos of Emma Watson into an attack on journalists/SJWs, but you did. Congratulations.
You not being sure of it means you haven't read the proof I take it?
edit: This article is a good one and should explain it, but that's not all it covers.
New Janitors, New Image The above picture is not a joke. It is part of the large-scale rebranding of 4chan. An explanation of what has happened can be found here. I’ll give a short summary: as a result of 4chan’s raid of tumblr, a girl related to one of the owners of Gawker media tried to commit suicide. Moot wanted to stop the animosity between tumblr and 4chan, while most mods objected. Those that did object were booted from their duties and replaced by outsiders, aimed at ‘cleaning up’ 4chan. Among those new janitors are the same group of people implicated by #GamerGate, whose revelations also involved Gawker media-owned website Kotaku. Other new janitors are appointed from his new group of friends.
Moot is finally making moves to try to clean up 4chan, but 4chan doesn’t want to get clean. They love the way things are now, and openly oppose any changes to the way 4chan operates. The below picture accurately describes how most regulars feel right now.
People feel betrayed, and rightly so. The people they tried fighting for over a decade now have the power to delete their words from their beloved website. When this became public knowledge, people immediately started making posts planning to leave 4chan. Another website, resembling 4chan, has already been embraced by a large portion of the active user base: 8chan.co. In response, 4chan banned every mention of 8chan from their boards.
Users haven’t given up the fight. The old 4chan is dead. Will it continue to exist? Probably. Would it be as revered and creative as it was? Probably not. Moot is finally trying to cash in on 4chan. He’s trying to rebrand it as an edgy forum, but safe. To answer to how the biggest forum was brought down is answered. From the inside. 4chan became too mainstream to survive in its current form.
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ZebioLizard2 wrote: Isn't this one of those articles that came out in Gamergate's wake to try and divide people?
I don't think so, but Steve, above you, has hit on something that I'd been thinking:
Steve steveson wrote: Someone has not read the source book and wants to change the world it is based on for an ideal.
He's right, and the whole article feels like it was written by someone who's heard of these various issues but hasn't actually looked into any of them beyond surface detail. They're talking about changing something that they clearly know very little about.
Maybe they're referring to the 4chan "emma talks about feminism, we post her nudes". 4chan however has been cleaned out by moot and is now "anti-gamergate" with gamergate threads completely banned as Moot tries to rebrand 4chan as edgy but safe populated by mods from his new group of friends... I'm sure you can guess the type of people they are.
I'm not quite sure how you managed to turn 4chan members threatening to leak personal photos of Emma Watson into an attack on journalists/SJWs, but you did. Congratulations.
You not being sure of it means you haven't read the proof I take it? Do you want me to show it to you or will you ignore it?
I have indeed seen the proof, I'm not denying that there are new janitors in place. My point was that it took quite a leap to get to your point, and that 4chan having new janitors is unrelated to 4chan members threatening to invade someone's privacy. You managed to go from a point about some people on the internet being disgusting, jump over to how people on 4chan are threatening to leak images, and then tootle onwards to 'but that doesn't matter because 4chan sucks because journalists'
Unless you'd see a comment on police brutality and respond with 'he must be talking about Stevetown, they got a new mayor the other day, he's a democrat, I'm sure you can see the problem', in which case it's still silly, but at least you'd be consistently silly.
Classy move with 'do you want me to show you or will you ignore it?' By the way.
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Goliath wrote: And again, the 4chan response to it is really really disgusting.
That sentence has no meaning. 4Chan is not a hive mind, and the range of topics covered by 4chan's board are so broad that to paint them all with the same brush is a waste of time.
Goliath wrote: And again, the 4chan response to it is really really disgusting.
That sentence has no meaning. 4Chan is not a hive mind, and the range of topics covered by 4chan's board are so broad that to paint them all with the same brush is a waste of time.
I was referring to the response that Yonan mentioned, of 'Emma Watson supports feminism, let's leak her nudes'. I probably should have been a bit clearer with that.
But even so, trying to imply any real level of organisation within 4chan is like trying to nail jelly to a wall. It's a formless bunch that occasionally congeals to form something, but it's gone just as quickly as it arrived.
But even so, trying to imply any real level of organisation within 4chan is like trying to nail jelly to a wall. It's a formless bunch that occasionally congeals to form something, but it's gone just as quickly as it arrived.
I'm going to steal that last part and use it every time I hear someone IRL complain about 4chan "doing this" or "supporting that". That part cannot be emphasized enough.
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back.
But even so, trying to imply any real level of organisation within 4chan is like trying to nail jelly to a wall. It's a formless bunch that occasionally congeals to form something, but it's gone just as quickly as it arrived.
oh, yeah, I've been on the internet long enough to know that That is probably the best description I've seen for 4chan though.
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Maybe they're referring to the 4chan "emma talks about feminism, we post her nudes". 4chan however has been cleaned out by moot and is now "anti-gamergate" with gamergate threads completely banned as Moot tries to rebrand 4chan as edgy but safe populated by mods from his new group of friends... I'm sure you can guess the type of people they are.
I'm not quite sure how you managed to turn 4chan members threatening to leak personal photos of Emma Watson into an attack on journalists/SJWs, but you did. Congratulations.
You not being sure of it means you haven't read the proof I take it? Do you want me to show it to you or will you ignore it?
I have indeed seen the proof, I'm not denying that there are new janitors in place. My point was that it took quite a leap to get to your point, and that 4chan having new janitors is unrelated to 4chan members threatening to invade someone's privacy. You managed to go from a point about some people on the internet being disgusting, jump over to how people on 4chan are threatening to leak images, and then tootle onwards to 'but that doesn't matter because 4chan sucks because journalists'
Unless you'd see a comment on police brutality and respond with 'he must be talking about Stevetown, they got a new mayor the other day, he's a democrat, I'm sure you can see the problem', in which case it's still silly, but at least you'd be consistently silly.
Classy move with 'do you want me to show you or will you ignore it?' By the way.
You'll notice I edited it out quickly if you check the edit timestamp, long before your post as yes I realized it was inflammatory.
The point is you're under the perception that the "emma watson feminism / we'lll leek nudes" thing is related to the pro gamergate crowd because 4chan was pro gamergate. Moot cleaning house means they've all left, and been replaced by anti-gamergate people. So if 4chan is now saying something like that it's not gamergate people saying it. Combine dwith as HBMC says of course they're not a hive mind, and it's just another example of cherry picking.
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Maybe “Game of Thrones” fans will recognize that the show’s essence will survive even with fewer naked, threatened women on screen
That shows the essence of what upsets people. Someone has not read the source book and wants to change the world it is based on for an ideal. You go telling people what they should and should not do without knowing the vision behind it, of course they will be upset. Especially when your view (as shown by others here) is biased in ignoring everything that dose not fit.
I read all the books and I was surprised by the amount of nudity on the small part of the show I watched. Really, you could tune down the amount of nudity a LOT and still stay pretty close to the book. Not all of it though.
As for the threatened… well, yeah, that you could not remove .
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Yonan wrote: Apparently you missed #notyourshield where a large variety of non-white males refused to let themselves be scape goats for ridiculous arguments.
So? Does that means “fake geek girl” is an expression that was invented by evil anti-geek people to make the true inclusive geek people look bad? Does that mean I have not been told that my Sisters of Battle should not have black skin because they had to be “pure” ? Does that mean that the link in Melissia's signature is all false? Does that mean tau tse tung's anecdote are all a byproduct of his too active imagination?
Or does it just mean that those people disagreed with the ridiculous argument?
Yonan wrote: Can you point to any examples of minorities being ridiculed on dakka for their taking part in our hobby?
Thankfully doing that would be a ban-worthy offense on DakkaDakka.
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Yonan wrote: you're under the perception that the "emma watson feminism / we'lll leek nudes" thing is related to the pro gamergate crowd
Is he under that perception, or are you turning paranoid?
The fact you are paranoid does not mean they are not out there to get you! Quick, jump to your guns!
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Maybe they're referring to the 4chan "emma talks about feminism, we post her nudes". 4chan however has been cleaned out by moot and is now "anti-gamergate" with gamergate threads completely banned as Moot tries to rebrand 4chan as edgy but safe populated by mods from his new group of friends... I'm sure you can guess the type of people they are.
I'm not quite sure how you managed to turn 4chan members threatening to leak personal photos of Emma Watson into an attack on journalists/SJWs, but you did. Congratulations.
You not being sure of it means you haven't read the proof I take it? Do you want me to show it to you or will you ignore it?
I have indeed seen the proof, I'm not denying that there are new janitors in place. My point was that it took quite a leap to get to your point, and that 4chan having new janitors is unrelated to 4chan members threatening to invade someone's privacy. You managed to go from a point about some people on the internet being disgusting, jump over to how people on 4chan are threatening to leak images, and then tootle onwards to 'but that doesn't matter because 4chan sucks because journalists'
Unless you'd see a comment on police brutality and respond with 'he must be talking about Stevetown, they got a new mayor the other day, he's a democrat, I'm sure you can see the problem', in which case it's still silly, but at least you'd be consistently silly.
Classy move with 'do you want me to show you or will you ignore it?' By the way.
You'll notice I edited it out quickly if you check the edit timestamp, long before your post as yes I realized it was inflammatory.
The point is you're under the perception that the "emma watson feminism / we'lll leek nudes" thing is related to the pro gamergate crowd because 4chan was pro gamergate. Moot cleaning house means they've all left, and been replaced by anti-gamergate people. So if 4chan is now saying something like that it's not gamergate people saying it. Combine dwith as HBMC says of course they're not a hive mind, and it's just another example of cherry picking.
What? I never in any way whatsoever implied that it was the pro-gamergate crowd that was threatening to leak the images. At all. I do not think it, I did not say it, and I certainly never typed it. I was talking about feminism and it's critics completely separate from #gamergate.
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Do not listen to him, Yonan. He is just playing tricks with you. He is an infiltrated journalist trying to do terribly bad things. You should shoot first just to be sure. Also, throw away your computer, it has certainly been compromised by journalists that are out to get you!
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Goliath wrote: What? I never in any way whatsoever implied that it was the pro-gamergate crowd that was threatening to leak the images. At all. I do not think it, I did not say it, and I certainly never typed it. I was talking about feminism and it's critics completely separate from #gamergate.
If so my bad, it's a pretty muddled topic, hard to say what's what sometimes haha. Also it being late doesn't help with comprehension of complex topics I guess.
hotsauceman1 wrote: Interesting, Geeks do tend to be their own worst enemies.
What? No they don't. Our worst enemies are Jocks, Cheerleaders, and Preppies. Everyone knows that.
Emperor's Eagles (undergoing Chapter reorganization)
Caledonian 95th (undergoing regimental reorganization)
Thousands Sons (undergoing Warband re--- wait, are any of my 40K armies playable?)
Yonan wrote: If so my bad, it's a pretty muddled topic, hard to say what's what sometimes haha.
Well, Goliath never took part in any GG thread, as far as I can tell, and he never mentioned GG in this thread either. Seems crystal-clear rather than muddled to me.
squidhills wrote: Our worst enemies are Jocks, Cheerleaders, and Preppies. Everyone knows that.
What about the goths? Those are okay, right?
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Yonan wrote: If so my bad, it's a pretty muddled topic, hard to say what's what sometimes haha.
Well, Goliath never took part in any GG thread, as far as I can tell, and he never mentioned GG in this thread either. Seems crystal-clear rather than muddled to me.
squidhills wrote: Our worst enemies are Jocks, Cheerleaders, and Preppies. Everyone knows that.
What about the goths? Those are okay, right?
I've been involved in a couple, but not heavily. I'm somewhere in the middle of the topic, which might be why people seem to not notice me. Both sides have faults that seem to get taken as an excuse to dismiss everything, both sides have valid criticisms.
Most of the time I don't really argue for any particular position, I just argue against bad arguments or people that are being rude.
Slarg232 wrote: Goths are ok, but Preppy Goths? Those are the worst....
I had to google preppy to find what it was about. I am not sure I understood correctly, because if I did, preppy goth does not make any sense .
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
It depends on what you consider a geek or a nerd. I think of myself as both, and my worst enemy is not myself, but those who refuse to understand me. Those who look at me and genralize. Those who judge me for what I am, not who I am. When you genralize, you destroy the person. You destroy their identity. I've had people assume that I am sexist because I am a gamer, I'm not (quite the opposite actually, I hate it when people are treated less than others). I've had people assume that I am anti-social because I am a geek and don't have many friends when it is completely opposite, I am quite outgoing, just a strange enough that most people don't give me the chance to become friends. I have lived through stereotypes, bulling, and ignorance throughout my entire life, and there is one thing I can tell you, I am not the one holding me back. I am not held back. I am one of the few people who have allowed themselves to be free. I have thrown off the shackles of normalcy and express myself fully and completely. My mind is free, and my actions are my own, not dictated to by what the social norm is. No fashion. No trends. Nothing. I am what I am and I do what I can to be free. And no one can hold me back from that. And that is the only thing that holds anyone back.
People have been generalizing left, right, and center. That is wrong. That is ignorant. That is lazy.
The only thing that holds you back is the idea that you have to go along, whether propagate by yourself or others.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
d-usa wrote: So nerds are just like any other subgroup?
Sports fan get mad if you like other teams. They get even more mad if you *gasp* like other sports! And woe to those that didn't follow Team X since 1994 and just started to follow in 2004 because they are bandwagon fans!
Yeup.
Oh... don't forget about the Fantasy Leagues.
Technically cosplayers aswell...
Nice Shirt Ronaldo!!
Im sure no male has ever been exposed to violence or threatened in GoT...
A Dark Angel fell on a watcher in the Dark Shroud silently chanted Vengance on the Fallen Angels to never be Unforgiven
d-usa wrote: So nerds are just like any other subgroup?
Sports fan get mad if you like other teams. They get even more mad if you *gasp* like other sports! And woe to those that didn't follow Team X since 1994 and just started to follow in 2004 because they are bandwagon fans!
Yeup.
Oh... don't forget about the Fantasy Leagues.
Technically cosplayers aswell...
Nice Shirt Ronaldo!!
Im sure no male has ever been exposed to violence or threatened in GoT...
Certainly not the men in the Stark family. Those guys are super privileged.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
~4100
~1660
That is probably the best description I've seen for 4chan though.
? Does that mean that the link in Melissia's signature is all false? Does that mean 
Emperor's Eagles (undergoing Chapter reorganization)
Caledonian 95th (undergoing regimental reorganization)
Thousands Sons (undergoing Warband re--- wait, are any of my 40K armies playable?) 
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