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 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a single Exotic Shard and 7ish thousand glimmer to upgrade.

So seven strange coins and a third of the glimmer cap per weapon. It also is a limited list of weapons as well, so those of us with exotics he isn't selling an upgrade for just have to wait and hope. If the upgrades are anything like the rotation of Voidfang Vestments it will be the same weapon list for years to come.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a single Exotic Shard and 7ish thousand glimmer to upgrade.

So seven strange coins and a third of the glimmer cap per weapon. It also is a limited list of weapons as well, so those of us with exotics he isn't selling an upgrade for just have to wait and hope. If the upgrades are anything like the rotation of Voidfang Vestments it will be the same weapon list for years to come.

I'm not sure if it's a limited list of upgrades. All of mine where available for upgrade this morning, though I only had the glimmer to do one item, so I did my chest piece (light level 36). I'll be doing my Gjallahorn next, then Ice Breaker.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a single Exotic Shard and 7ish thousand glimmer to upgrade.

The Weekly Heroic/Nightfall are going to be rotating as normal, but The Dark Below will remain in said rotation.

I can live with both. The exotic shard is a bit tough, but brings it inline with the new exotics. Just sucks to have spent all those ascendant materials.

 gunslingerpro wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a single Exotic Shard and 7ish thousand glimmer to upgrade.

The Weekly Heroic/Nightfall are going to be rotating as normal, but The Dark Below will remain in said rotation.

I can live with both. The exotic shard is a bit tough, but brings it inline with the new exotics. Just sucks to have spent all those ascendant materials.

Don't have any weapons or armor you don't want to upgrade? Destroying them provides shards.

Also note that Xur is back with the Exotic Engram for 23 Motes of Light, so that's free shards...

 djones520 wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a single Exotic Shard and 7ish thousand glimmer to upgrade.

So seven strange coins and a third of the glimmer cap per weapon. It also is a limited list of weapons as well, so those of us with exotics he isn't selling an upgrade for just have to wait and hope. If the upgrades are anything like the rotation of Voidfang Vestments it will be the same weapon list for years to come.

I'm not sure if it's a limited list of upgrades.

I haven't had a chance to look in game but on a Destiny board when they listed the items they had a specific list of exotics. It will be nice if you can upgrade any, though having to pay to upgrade again is annoying after all the time and resources spent to cap it out in the first place.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Also note that Xur is back with the Exotic Engram for 23 Motes of Light, so that's free shards...

+1. Shards should not be all that difficult to come by.

Has anyone tried the new raid out yet? My group is still maxing their new gear out, so we haven't messed around with it at all.


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 Ahtman wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a single Exotic Shard and 7ish thousand glimmer to upgrade.

So seven strange coins and a third of the glimmer cap per weapon. It also is a limited list of weapons as well, so those of us with exotics he isn't selling an upgrade for just have to wait and hope. If the upgrades are anything like the rotation of Voidfang Vestments it will be the same weapon list for years to come.

I'm not sure if it's a limited list of upgrades.

I haven't had a chance to look in game but on a Destiny board when they listed the items they had a specific list of exotics. It will be nice if you can upgrade any, though having to pay to upgrade again is annoying after all the time and resources spent to cap it out in the first place.

Better then just sharding it because it's useless IMO. I'm happy for it, I loved the titan grenade chest piece. Was very bummed I was going to have to replace it. Now I don't have to though.

 Ahtman wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a single Exotic Shard and 7ish thousand glimmer to upgrade.

So seven strange coins and a third of the glimmer cap per weapon. It also is a limited list of weapons as well, so those of us with exotics he isn't selling an upgrade for just have to wait and hope. If the upgrades are anything like the rotation of Voidfang Vestments it will be the same weapon list for years to come.

I'm not sure if it's a limited list of upgrades.

I haven't had a chance to look in game but on a Destiny board when they listed the items they had a specific list of exotics. It will be nice if you can upgrade any, though having to pay to upgrade again is annoying after all the time and resources spent to cap it out in the first place.

It's a certain number of upgradeable items each week.

I think that it was 10 items. I know that Thorn and Young Ahamkara Spine were both on the list and I'm upgrading those when I get the Glimmer.

It is better than we could have imagined. I upgraded my capped out Armamentarium for 7k+ glimmer and seven Strange Coins (relic shard) and it upgraded it to something with zero xp! Now I get to level it all over again and have to buy another relic shard to upgrade it at the end. Bravo Bungie! Bravo!

 Ahtman wrote:
It is better than we could have imagined. I upgraded my capped out Armamentarium for 7k+ glimmer and seven Strange Coins (relic shard) and it upgraded it to something with zero xp! Now I get to level it all over again and have to buy another relic shard to upgrade it at the end. Bravo Bungie! Bravo!

Or you could have just lost the item all together, since it was no longer level equivalent... would that have been a better option?

 djones520 wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
It is better than we could have imagined. I upgraded my capped out Armamentarium for 7k+ glimmer and seven Strange Coins (relic shard) and it upgraded it to something with zero xp! Now I get to level it all over again and have to buy another relic shard to upgrade it at the end. Bravo Bungie! Bravo!

Or you could have just lost the item all together, since it was no longer level equivalent... would that have been a better option?

I don't really buy the idea that the only two options they had were to screw the players or to screw the players. If it was fully leveled when I paid in Stange Coins and tons of glimmer to upgrade it it should have stayed upgraded. It is as if every decision they make is to see how long it takes to push their users away.

 Ahtman wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
It is better than we could have imagined. I upgraded my capped out Armamentarium for 7k+ glimmer and seven Strange Coins (relic shard) and it upgraded it to something with zero xp! Now I get to level it all over again and have to buy another relic shard to upgrade it at the end. Bravo Bungie! Bravo!

Or you could have just lost the item all together, since it was no longer level equivalent... would that have been a better option?

I don't really buy the idea that the only two options they had were to screw the players or to screw the players. If it was fully leveled when I paid in Stange Coins and tons of glimmer to upgrade it it should have stayed upgraded. It is as if every decision they make is to see how long it takes to push their users away.

I guess we have different views of screwing players over then. This is hardly how I see it. At most it's asking us to play the game a little while longer. Honestly, this is no different then when a standard MMO puts a new DLC out. When WOTLK came out for WoW, it wasn't like you could immediately turn around with your gear and start raiding. Hell, every item you had from Burning Crusade was at this point useless. All of that time you spend raiding the Black Temple, now meant nothing. You were now on the same exact page as the guy who made an account yesterday.

At least Bungie is giving us the opportunity to hold onto some of those items we got previously. Could they have asked for "less", sure, but honestly they aren't asking for a lot either. Strange coins are used solely to buy exotic gear. Well guess what, you're using strange coins to buy items for your exotic gear.

 djones520 wrote:
I guess we have different views of screwing players over then. This is hardly how I see it. At most it's asking us to play the game a little while longer.

No, you have to put time, money, and materials into building the item. Now you have to repeat that process.

 djones520 wrote:
Honestly, this is no different then when a standard MMO puts a new DLC out.

This isn't really a standard MMO by any stretch.

 djones520 wrote:
When WOTLK came out for WoW, it wasn't like you could immediately turn around with your gear and start raiding.

I am less concerned about getting new gear, which was already dicsussed, than having to take gear you already had and having to re-level it all over again reinvesting materials, glimmer, strange coins, and time into the exact same thing. In your example you aren't getting the exact same thing but new stuff all together. Getting new gear isn't the same as paying again for the old gear. There was also a lot more time between expansions in WoW than between the launch of Destiny and the first DLC. You also didn't have to level the weapon/armor once you got it as getting it was the hard part. In this getting the weapon is already hard then you have to sink a few weeks into leveling it up as well.

 djones520 wrote:
At least Bungie is giving us the opportunity to hold onto some of those items we got previously. Could they have asked for "less", sure, but honestly they aren't asking for a lot either. Strange coins are used solely to buy exotic gear. Well guess what, you're using strange coins to buy items for your exotic gear.

It isn't just the Strange Coins but the time, materials, and glimmer already paid to level it out once. You can make all the excuses you want for them but that doesn't change that item management is badly designed and the game is lacking content even with one DLC, which is sad since the core gameplay is so refined. This was a bad decision handled badly. I have a few exotics I won't even touch now since there is no point in leveling them (any more than I already have) until they can be upgraded, which of course I now also have to wait for him to have the option to upgrade them. This is barring things like him have Voidfang Vestments as a Warlock option five of the last six weeks.

It.... is... just the worse...