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I currently play CWE and am working on my Wych cult DE army for play this summer. I'm not really excited for the Harlies for my CWE but I think they'll be tons of fun in my Wych army (I'm going for a Geisha bath-house theme sort of entertainment theme for my Wych cult as opposed to their usual coliseum thing) I think some Harlies will fit quite nicely in with that theme and add some variety to my forces.

And before anyone jumps on it, I know a Wych cult force is not "top tier". I play for fun and style before competitiveness. Any match where I put a beautifully painted and styled army on the table is a win for me regardless of score. It helps our group is amazing fun and we all play casually for beer and fun over wins.

 Inevitable_Faith wrote:
I currently play CWE and am working on my Wych cult DE army for play this summer. I'm not really excited for the Harlies for my CWE but I think they'll be tons of fun in my Wych army (I'm going for a Geisha bath-house theme sort of entertainment theme for my Wych cult as opposed to their usual coliseum thing) I think some Harlies will fit quite nicely in with that theme and add some variety to my forces.

And before anyone jumps on it, I know a Wych cult force is not "top tier". I play for fun and style before competitiveness. Any match where I put a beautifully painted and styled army on the table is a win for me regardless of score. It helps our group is amazing fun and we all play casually for beer and fun over wins.

I like that theme, can't wait to see piccies you should do a shot everytime you score a VP could get very interesting being that the further your lead the less sound your tactics become! till by turn 5-6 your just a drunken general


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blaktoof wrote:

other units could be Mimes. which were basically what scouts are to Space marines for harlequins. Given how they said the kits will be, would have to be a combo kit with the harlequins and we have been told via rumors that one of the 2 box sets will be a combi kit for infantry..

where can one find said rumours? - NVM I found them with a little googling

Solar Shock wrote:

 Inevitable_Faith wrote:
I currently play CWE and am working on my Wych cult DE army for play this summer. I'm not really excited for the Harlies for my CWE but I think they'll be tons of fun in my Wych army (I'm going for a Geisha bath-house theme sort of entertainment theme for my Wych cult as opposed to their usual coliseum thing) I think some Harlies will fit quite nicely in with that theme and add some variety to my forces.

And before anyone jumps on it, I know a Wych cult force is not "top tier". I play for fun and style before competitiveness. Any match where I put a beautifully painted and styled army on the table is a win for me regardless of score. It helps our group is amazing fun and we all play casually for beer and fun over wins.

I like that theme, can't wait to see piccies you should do a shot everytime you score a VP could get very interesting being that the further your lead the less sound your tactics become! till by turn 5-6 your just a drunken general

Haha not a bad idea at all! I think for this force in keeping with the Geisha theme I may have to do a tea ceremony before every match to really get the mood going. I could even offer to pour a cup for my opponent. Poisoned of course. Nothing says DE player like having ones opponent slump into a coma across the table by the start of turn 3

As for the pics they may be a while. Gotta wrap up my CWE army before I move to the next project. Got 1000 points done, only 1000 more points to go, on the docket right now is converting up some striking scorpions out of Wood elves glade guards and some guardians. Going for a guerrilla warfare vibe with them.

The Harlequin solitaire is getting rules and a model next week. Let's hope it offers us something that our codex units don't already give us.

mercury14 wrote:
The Harlequin solitaire is getting rules and a model next week. Let's hope it offers us something that our codex units don't already give us.

Where did you find this information out?

DaKKaLAnce wrote:

mercury14 wrote:
The Harlequin solitaire is getting rules and a model next week. Let's hope it offers us something that our codex units don't already give us.

Where did you find this information out?

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/01/here-are-harlequins-for-next-week.html

If the leaks/rumors are true, holo-suits are 3++ now.

Solitaire rules rumors/leaks (I like 'em!):

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/01/solitaire-rules-and-hints-of-whats-to.html

not sure about those rumors.

lots of things triggering off hits instead of wounds. cannot be joined by characters when old solitaire was not allowed to join anything, hence the name 'solitaire'

Would be nice if they changed the rules to kiss as stated in rumor.

Hi guys thought I'd share another guide I wrote recently.

The Pragmatic Realspace Raider: By power from pain! Get back in the fight!

Hope people find it useful.

As a De player, do you feel like your army is doing well? At first I thought my paper planes would just all be destroyed asap. But so far, I have been having some good luck with the army and have not been disappointed...I have been using Real Space raider detachment, Love it!. What are your thoughts and favorite builds/units currently? I would have to say talos and succubus

I know if I asked my opponents that they would say they hate when I use my dark eldar, so that seems like a sign. I think they've been doing very well but I haven't gotten to experiment which many of the coven units outside of the dark artisan formation so far.

Almost finished my grotesqurie to start fielding them, but my strongest performers have generally been my venoms and razorwing jetfighters. I am sad about cutting some units like wyches and ravagers almost completely from my lists though.

 lessthanjeff wrote:
I know if I asked my opponents that they would say they hate when I use my dark eldar, so that seems like a sign. I think they've been doing very well but I haven't gotten to experiment which many of the coven units outside of the dark artisan formation so far.

Almost finished my grotesqurie to start fielding them, but my strongest performers have generally been my venoms and razorwing jetfighters. I am sad about cutting some units like wyches and ravagers almost completely from my lists though.

I took a break from DE and started playing them again recently. I must say, they seem to be really good. I was trying to use units that I like , so I fielded some wyches with succubus. Seems like a nice lock down unit when you add the succubus. Grots have been very great! I still have yet to test out scourges and hellions, so I will invest in a few boxes of those. Which army has been your most difficult to play against?

I've been winning at least 75% or my games with Dark Eldar since the codex came out. In local tournaments (usually 12-18 players), I've taken 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 4th, 7th. Not only that but I've won with a large variety of units and lists. My opponents never know what I'm bringing.

I don't feel Dark Eldar are subpar against any army, in fact I think they're a foil to everyone.*



* Except against wave serpent spam but that' OP crap is just a given to be strong against almost everything so it's not really worth mentioning.

Yeah, I've been doing well with it when I get to play it. The only thing that gives me serious trouble is Centurionstar and Waveserpent spam.

Hey I just wanted to jump in and say that I recently played my first game of Dark Eldar with their new codex, and even my first game of Dark Eldar in 7th.

and the game was at 2,000 points and I took absolutely no vehicles. And the only reason I lost was because of a Hive Crone and a Dimachaeron. And I had too much anti-tank weaponry in haywire blaster scourges.

Have any of you tried out using a foot-slogging list for DE? I used a wall of 60 kabalite warriors. 3 units of 20 and in between were two spirit probe cronos to boost their FNP.

 Icculus wrote:
Hey I just wanted to jump in and say that I recently played my first game of Dark Eldar with their new codex, and even my first game of Dark Eldar in 7th.

and the game was at 2,000 points and I took absolutely no vehicles. And the only reason I lost was because of a Hive Crone and a Dimachaeron. And I had too much anti-tank weaponry in haywire blaster scourges.

Have any of you tried out using a foot-slogging list for DE? I used a wall of 60 kabalite warriors. 3 units of 20 and in between were two spirit probe cronos to boost their FNP.

I havent tried this with the warriors, But I want to try it with wracks and coven list. I used reaver jet bikes the other day and wow...Just wow. They killed an autharch , SS, and a WS with Hammer of wrath.

I will try to use a wyche cult army list sometime soon. I will need more helions then I will be set

I was gonna say that that sounds like a horrible idea, but then it occurred to me that 60 warriors costs less than 500 points.

Here's a list I threw together while exploring the possibilities of that.



Not cutting edge competitive, but I think it'd be pretty brutal in a casual game.

I haven't done a horde of foot warriors since 3rd edition. Using it against a Tyranid army and losing doesn't seem to speak well for its effectiveness though because that's generally a very easy matchup for us. I like taking lots of warriors, but I'd still want them in transports for the protection and mobility they provide.

I think knights make me the most nervous matchup wise. Their existence makes me tend towards a squad of fire dragons in a raider with a webway portal for the ability to hit an unshielded side. I'd like to have some other reliable ways to knock one out but even when I try a similar setup with blasterborn it is significantly inferior in effect.

I love how the Dark Eldar tactics thread talks about how easy Tyranids are, while the Tyranids thread says how easy the Dark Eldar are...

I think that may be because Tyranids are very, very good with a couple of specific builds/formations, but otherwise pretty average.

Well his list was pretty strong with the flying MCs and the Dimachaeron and dakkafexes all with pretty good cover saves.

The biggest weakness I had was no aa. Here was the list

HQ
Archon w/ Soul-trap, hukblade, parasite’s kiss = 100
Haemonculus, webway portal, mindphase gauntlet = 110
Elite
10 Mandrakes w/ nightfiend = 130
4 grotesques w/ aberration w/ scissorhand = 160
Troops
20 Kab Warriors 2 splinter cannons w/ sybarite = 200
20 Kab Warriors 2 splinter cannons w/ sybarite = 200
20 Kab Warriors 2 splinter cannons w/ sybarite = 200
Fast
5 scourges w/ 4 haywire blasters = 120
5 scourges w/ 4 haywire blasters = 120
Heavy
Cronos w/ spirit probe = 125
Cronos w/ spirit probe = 125
2 Talos w/ TL heat lances and chain flails = 260
1850

So the deepstriking Grots w/ haemy and archon didnt come in until turn 4, but then they did, they started doing work immediately.

So... An Archon with Shadowfield to tank shooting in a unit of Harlequins?

What do people think of the Solitaire? He is fast and undeniably deadily, but i can't help but think of him as a faster, better protected Eversor Assassin. And who uses them?

On the other hand he is fast enough to keep up with our other assault threats such as Grotesques and Incubi in Raiders as well as Reavers. I feel he could have a place in the list due to his ability to actually ravage vehicles (6's to glance with 12 attacks on any turn) or ravage elite units.

He is also pretty. Let's not forget that.

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
What do people think of the Solitaire? He is fast and undeniably deadily, but i can't help but think of him as a faster, better protected Eversor Assassin. And who uses them?

On the other hand he is fast enough to keep up with our other assault threats such as Grotesques and Incubi in Raiders as well as Reavers. I feel he could have a place in the list due to his ability to actually ravage vehicles (6's to glance with 12 attacks on any turn) or ravage elite units.

He is also pretty. Let's not forget that.

Harlies in genaeral with DE just looks like a nice idea....They fit in more with DE than our Kin.... Im going to buy the new models as soon as they are released, The Solitaire just looks sexy.

I plan on running two...

Just started getting into DE as I am building a stand-in army for them, but I will say currently my 2 favorite units are an archon with portal attached to 4 medusae in a venom, amazing first blood unit. As well the grotesquerie, any of the die results are good, and that unit gibs just about anything it touches.

ryuken87 wrote:
I think that may be because Tyranids are very, very good with a couple of specific builds/formations, but otherwise pretty average.

So pretty much like every other codex?

To be honest, I think they can be a pretty even match-up. It just depends on generalship. A Splinterboat has a good chance to take down an unsupported Flyrant, while the Flyrant can do the same to the Splinterboat. Whoever masters positioning wins the match.

Ive never had any problems with nids; But then again I dont play against more than 2 FMC.

Maybe it's that I don't run splinterboats. I can take 2 venoms and 2 warrior squads inside for less than the cost of each flyrant. That gives me 44 poisoned shots to shoot against him while he can only knock out one of the 4 units in his turn. There's also a solid chance of getting a skyfire objective somewhere on the board that I hastily swarm over. I've never fought more than 3 fliers in a tyranid list, but with dark eldar I don't think I've ever lost a match. The flyrants are about the only threat to my list it seems like. Everything else I'm generally able to outdistance and outrange to death.

The necron codex has pretty much been spilled at this point. Any thoughts on how DE look against them.

T5 Wraiths with the beast type going on I5 that are laughably under-costed at 40-43 points kind of scare me. Everyone is going to run a dozen of them now because why not? And their jetbikes shoot S6 small blasts that ignore cover for just a little over 20 pts.

Tesla got nerfed, as did Annihilation barges so that's good.

mercury14 wrote:
The necron codex has pretty much been spilled at this point. Any thoughts on how DE look against them.

T5 Wraiths with the beast type going on I5 that are laughably under-costed at 40-43 points kind of scare me. Everyone is going to run a dozen of them now because why not? And their jetbikes shoot S6 small blasts that ignore cover for just a little over 20 pts.

Tesla got nerfed, as did Annihilation barges so that's good.

From the Necron Perspective, You guys are in trouble.

The Decurion is the new big thing, which creates a 4+ RP for every model that is it available. The new RP is like a super FNP. This makes it extreamly hard to put down enough Necrons before they can cripple your Army.

Factor in that nearly everything in the Codex got either cheaper, better, or both. Things like the Obelisk, which is an AV 14 Superheavy with 4 Tesla Spheres that shot 5 Tesla shots each, and can be taken in one of the formations with the Decurion.

Tomb Blades with Gauss Blasters will blow apart anything, and have insane durability for their points.

The Decurion is going to be an uphill battle for every Army, not just Dark Eldar.