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 MWHistorian wrote:

lliu wrote:
I always liked the positive reviews. There's no point in ranting about something already done. Good job!

Because a chorus of yes-men isn't helpful? If something's wrong, you don't need to keep silent.

No Bro we have you for that. For someone that posts only bad reviews while openly admitting no matter how good GW products will ever be released till the end of time you will have a complaint on it. I think you should edit your sig to, I hate GW do not buy there products but will always give it a bad review never looking at it in person or taking it home to read or assimble it. I bet if gw had a box with a glod plated model in it you would complain its not silver or platinum. I honestly do not know why you even waist secounds of your life poating in the gw section.

Fireraven wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:

lliu wrote:
I always liked the positive reviews. There's no point in ranting about something already done. Good job!

Because a chorus of yes-men isn't helpful? If something's wrong, you don't need to keep silent.

No Bro we have you for that. For someone that posts only bad reviews while openly admitting no matter how good GW products will ever be released till the end of time you will have a complaint on it. I think you should edit your sig to, I hate GW do not buy there products but will always give it a bad review never looking at it in person or taking it home to read or assimble it. I bet if gw had a box with a glod plated model in it you would complain its not silver or platinum. I honestly do not know why you even waist secounds of your life poating in the gw section.

I've never said that I will always hate it and I don't hate GW products just because it's fun. (though they do make it easy.)
I view the hobby as a whole, not just Games Workshop. And compared to the rest of the wargaming hobby, GW kinda sucks.
Lately I commented on the Nagash and how I love that model and thought the whole idea of the campaign was quite cool. If GW does something I like, I won't criticize it just out of spite. But I also won't shut up about things I think are less than stellar.
Do you want an echo chamber of similar opinions? (serious question.)

No there are faults to everything. But when I look at the faults I look at the bright side. I think the balance in the new dexes is great foe the hobby as a whole. I would rather see aemiea of every race with a bog in the fight not just 2 over powered armies. I know my blood angela are next to get wacked. But if they wack it and give me more balance overall ill takw the hit. I was to see 4+ races in a tourney and not be able to go there is the winner.

And yes I buy every codex expt orks. Why? Because I study where they are weak and strong. Also so when I see them I know what it can do not just them saying it does this. I would give up 3 BA special characters for 1 solid unit to use as troops.

Thanks OP for the level-headed and pretty optimistic reflection on our new Codex. Frankly, I've been avoiding these threads like the plague because of the post-release doomandgloom, but this was really great!

There will be good and bad with a new codex, and you can argue to which end any codex leans towards; we lost cool things (Characters) but gained interesting possibilities too. Lists and tactics will adapt, and those who really love the DE play style will just adapt to keep on hitting hard and fast like we should. Again, I like your interpretation of what has changed and how to keep on with what we have now.

 Jpogfreak886 wrote:
Thanks OP for the level-headed and pretty optimistic reflection on our new Codex. Frankly, I've been avoiding these threads like the plague because of the post-release doomandgloom, but this was really great!

There will be good and bad with a new codex, and you can argue to which end any codex leans towards; we lost cool things (Characters) but gained interesting possibilities too. Lists and tactics will adapt, and those who really love the DE play style will just adapt to keep on hitting hard and fast like we should. Again, I like your interpretation of what has changed and how to keep on with what we have now.

Thanks a lot. I'm looking forward to painting everything and getting some battles in. Will post my list soon and my results thereafter.. Waiting for GW to stock more Sslyth and Medusae!! Happy hunting my dark kin

Kronboss89 wrote:

We obviously like this game and it would just be better for everyone if they would just accept that things change. This is the current state of 40k. It's still the game we know and love. Use the new rules as a challenge to build new and interesting lists instead of the one you have used a thousand times and you just might find yourself having some fun with the game.

Well its not like I'm going to be throwing my DE models in the bin, however why should I lie about my feedback and just nod my head positively in regard to every change?

They buffed a bunch of gak, and nerfed a bunch of other gak, so now we are replacing one unbalanced codex with a new one. Except for $70 for the rules. Not including DLC. And the fact that absolutely everything unplayable except the transports (and even they can't be played as they used to) from my last editions army was nerfed. Now don't get the term "nerfed" confused with the term "rebalanced", plenty of those models (all of them) were far from OP and the changes have not balanced them at all, merely making them unplayable so that I have to make a new army. Why would anyone be happy with this ? I don't get it? We've got nothing new, lost a bunch of units, and for every playable unit in the dex there is one that will never see competitive play. The changes to Talos don't make them any less trashy.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Sure, nothing jumps off the page and slaps you so hard that you can see your long dead ancestors from the Stone Age with how poorly balanced it is compared to the rest of the army and how much you need to spam the crap out of it.

Actually, models do exactly that, jump right off the page at how unbalanced they are, but instead of spamming the crap out of them, you are avoiding them like the plague. You seriously gunna take Wyches Ravagers Khymera Malys Pain Engines (yes, they still suck even in numbers. Yes, both of them) etc etc?




But oh great I can play my court of the Archon and my Mandrakes now. Possibly. But gak I don't own any of those models, and conveniently, my well balanced far from OP models from the last edition have been neutered into shelfwarmers or counts-as. Guess it's time to crank the wallet out.


Am I really not allowed to be disappointed in the fact that they ruined good unit balancing for the sake of model sales?