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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:29:08
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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So the Blood Angels rumors have been popping in and out for the better part of a year now, and for a faction everyone seems to say is a GW favorite, its hard to tell by looking. The 2 edition changes have not been kind at all, and we are now the last marine codex in soft cover.
Since we have been left in the dust in terms of points cost, warlord traits, psychic powers, etc, its just adding insult to injury that we have had to watch 2 books be updated TWICE before we get our update. If the rumors are true regarding a necron release, that will make codex number 3.
The writing is on the wall, folks. The new editions show without a doubt that GW no longer cares about balancing our book, and the skipping of our codex has really started to point to our army being shelved by the development team indefinitely. Do not expect a new BA book at any point in the next 2-3 years.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:31:25
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Grim Rune Priest in the Eye of the Storm
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No, they just not got to them yet. There are only 2 pre-6th edition Codexes left, Blood Angles and Necrons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:32:52
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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the blood angels are really boring though. i'm not surprised that GW aren't that interested in them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:32:59
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Isn't it rumoured in like November?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:37:32
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Infiltrating Prowler
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th3maninblak wrote:So the Blood Angels rumors have been popping in and out for the better part of a year now, and for a faction everyone seems to say is a GW favorite, its hard to tell by looking. The 2 edition changes have not been kind at all, and we are now the last marine codex in soft cover.
Since we have been left in the dust in terms of points cost, warlord traits, psychic powers, etc, its just adding insult to injury that we have had to watch 2 books be updated TWICE before we get our update. If the rumors are true regarding a necron release, that will make codex number 3.
The writing is on the wall, folks. The new editions show without a doubt that GW no longer cares about balancing our book, and the skipping of our codex has really started to point to our army being shelved by the development team indefinitely. Do not expect a new BA book at any point in the next 2-3 years.
Wouldn't be so sure about that. Most rumors seem to indicate that GW are focussing on releasing every single 40k army and en pour all their effort on into fantasy, since that department has a very low sale and dwindling player base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:37:54
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
Netherlands
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Yes, but apparently in October the Necrons will get a Codex-release in a single week.
So we should all take out our pitchforks and torches and burn down GW-headquarters because.. well because he says so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:39:22
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Meh. I still think that BA could just as well be another chapter i the generic SM codex. They aren't that special and their changes could just as well be covered up with a few USR. Like Salamanders or BT.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:40:12
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Yes, but if necrons are indeed next, then that will push them back to january at the earliest, if they ever get done.
And about them being "boring", thats a matter of opinion. They are (or were, at least) a hugely popular faction. Theyre boring in comparison to everyone else now because everyone else has been updated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:51:46
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
Netherlands
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th3maninblak wrote:
Yes, but if necrons are indeed next, then that will push them back to january at the earliest, if they ever get done.
And about them being "boring", thats a matter of opinion. They are (or were, at least) a hugely popular faction. Theyre boring in comparison to everyone else now because everyone else has been updated.
I always expected them to come out around November.
And I don't see how a Halloween-cron-release is really changing anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:56:20
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Blood Angels were more appropriate in the standard Marine codex than BT. And I played both for a time. Chapter tactics blood rage was totally fine, plus some BA specific wargear. The army has the same composition as SM. as opposed to mixing scout and marines into a single squad, no Libby's, Emp's Champ, vows, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:58:45
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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th3maninblak wrote:
Yes, but if necrons are indeed next, then that will push them back to january at the earliest, if they ever get done.
And about them being "boring", thats a matter of opinion. They are (or were, at least) a hugely popular faction. Theyre boring in comparison to everyone else now because everyone else has been updated.
Necrons have a one week release, then 2 weeks of chaos stuff, then probably BA, I've seen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 17:59:57
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Wraith
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"Shelved Blood Angels"
Sir, let me show you Sisters of Battle... and over here, Exhibit B. B for Bretonnia.
The only thing shelved about Blood Angels is that one off army you have, say all Sanguinary Guard, which is guaranteed to be made invalid by the new book. And any character that doesn't have a model (though I think BA has them all?). You'll still probably see at least two units cut.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 18:02:38
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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TheKbob wrote:"Shelved Blood Angels"
Sir, let me show you Sisters of Battle... and over here, Exhibit B. B for Bretonnia.
The only thing shelved about Blood Angels is that one off army you have, say all Sanguinary Guard, which is guaranteed to be made invalid by the new book. And any character that doesn't have a model (though I think BA has them all?). You'll still probably see at least two units cut.
Lol my friend im saying that the BA are joining the ranks of sisters and bretonnians as the forgotten children of GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 18:03:03
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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ImAGeek wrote: th3maninblak wrote:
Yes, but if necrons are indeed next, then that will push them back to january at the earliest, if they ever get done.
And about them being "boring", thats a matter of opinion. They are (or were, at least) a hugely popular faction. Theyre boring in comparison to everyone else now because everyone else has been updated.
Necrons have a one week release, then 2 weeks of chaos stuff, then probably BA, I've seen.
If so, it will be interesting to see what will come next.
New edition? Supplements?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 18:03:15
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Nah, they'll get their codex in short order. Too many BA specific models to sell. Its a model company that sporadically produces rules, right? And despite their (many) poor decisions; deleting a once very popular army (still one of the more popular chapters by Dakka Polls) and rolling it into the big SM book would be a mistake. They could only sell one $50 codex instead of two, which is not the way GW is leaning. Think of all the supplement shenanigans ongoing to increase profits, BA will get a new codex soon, I'll put a shiny $1 on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 18:25:15
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Right now I'd say there's a 50-50 chance of the Squats getting an update before Blood Angels at this point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 18:34:38
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Andilus Greatsword wrote:Right now I'd say there's a 50-50 chance of the Squats getting an update before Blood Angels at this point. 
Finally someone who truly understands what I'm trying to say!! XD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 18:40:59
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Except it's not like that at all.
Although, if they announce Squats as the next codex, I'm gonna look like a tit...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 18:42:56
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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ImAGeek wrote:Except it's not like that at all.
Although, if they announce Squats as the next codex, I'm gonna look like a tit...
Yeah it is, I saw the new Squat sculpts next to the plastic Thunderhawk and new Sisters models! No BA in sight though!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 18:50:33
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Hahaha, we can dream...
In the new DE digital book, wasn't there a typo about the Blood Angels? Maybe that's a hint they're coming soon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 19:07:58
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Anpu42 wrote:No, they just not got to them yet. There are only 2 pre-6th edition Codexes left, Blood Angles and Necrons.
Okay. One dex just needs some points adjustments and some unit size tweaks (ABarges and lyche guard). The other has been straight up no-lube fisted by 2 seperate edition changes, pays nearly 50 points too much for most of its units and that's not even going into how its not even bottom tier anymore. Its trash bin tier. Which one should, by any rational sense of logic, be made to wait another month for an update?
Let's not forget, this being the LAST 5th edition dex to be updated, if they screw us over (bets are 4-1 in favour of this at the LGS, no I'm not kidding lol), the whole ruinous cycle starts over for another 2-3 years. I've been playing BA for 11 years. I love every last character and bit of fluff/lore. I think that they have the coolest range of models in all of 40k. Somehow, in spite of this, Greedy Whitemen have broken my will to field my decade long favorite army.*end rant*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 19:25:36
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
Netherlands
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But both codices really need an update.
After such a long time with overpaying for everything, another month isn't going to destroy my love for the Blood Angels or the game.
And with Necrons being a 1-week release I think it hardly matters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 19:28:58
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Grim Rune Priest in the Eye of the Storm
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It can work as a back-to-back release. Look at Space Wolves and Grey Knights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 19:36:05
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Anpu42 wrote:It can work as a back-to-back release. Look at Space Wolves and Grey Knights.
Rumors are saying october 11th and 18th white dwarfs will be chaos end times, then the 25th will be necrons, then back to end times for 3 weeks. After that its the holiday season, which is reserved for special bundle deals. So end times will finish around november 16th, then holiday stuff until the new year, meaning that if crons are next we wont see blood angels until mid january, if they get released at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 19:41:37
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Grim Rune Priest in the Eye of the Storm
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th3maninblak wrote: Anpu42 wrote:It can work as a back-to-back release. Look at Space Wolves and Grey Knights.
Rumors are saying october 11th and 18th white dwarfs will be chaos end times, then the 25th will be necrons, then back to end times for 3 weeks. After that its the holiday season, which is reserved for special bundle deals. So end times will finish around november 16th, then holiday stuff until the new year, meaning that if crons are next we wont see blood angels until mid january, if they get released at all.
Why would they not be released?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 19:44:10
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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A one week update for the Crons. Laughable. I guess that writing the codex took also one week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 19:55:41
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Anpu42 wrote: th3maninblak wrote: Anpu42 wrote:It can work as a back-to-back release. Look at Space Wolves and Grey Knights.
Rumors are saying october 11th and 18th white dwarfs will be chaos end times, then the 25th will be necrons, then back to end times for 3 weeks. After that its the holiday season, which is reserved for special bundle deals. So end times will finish around november 16th, then holiday stuff until the new year, meaning that if crons are next we wont see blood angels until mid january, if they get released at all.
Why would they not be released?
Seeing as how the editions have been made completely disregarding balance of the blood angels, it would make sense that the army get shelved entirely for the next several years. My guess is we have a year or two to go until we see an update.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 20:00:05
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Poisonous Kroot Headhunter
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timetowaste85 wrote:Blood Angels were more appropriate in the standard Marine codex than BT. And I played both for a time. Chapter tactics blood rage was totally fine, plus some BA specific wargear. The army has the same composition as SM. as opposed to mixing scout and marines into a single squad, no Libby's, Emp's Champ, vows, etc.
Blood Angels won't get rolled into the main SM Codex, there is too much fluff to actually do any justice to them. Also Blood Angels have quite a lot of different units when compared to SM. It would just get too clunky adding Death Company, Sanguinary Guard, Furioso and Baals. It's bound to start getting little Jimmy confused and start spending all his pocket money on a squad he can't use with his Ultramarines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 20:25:36
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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th3maninblak wrote:Seeing as how the editions have been made completely disregarding balance of the blood angels, it would make sense that the army get shelved entirely for the next several years. My guess is we have a year or two to go until we see an update.
Seriously? "I'm not having my update now, so that means I'll have to wait another two years despite GW quickly updating everything in a ridiculously and never-before-seen tempo!"? What the feth is wrong with people..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/05 20:53:03
Subject: Has GW shelved the Blood Angels?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Kangodo wrote: th3maninblak wrote:Seeing as how the editions have been made completely disregarding balance of the blood angels, it would make sense that the army get shelved entirely for the next several years. My guess is we have a year or two to go until we see an update.
Seriously?
"I'm not having my update now, so that means I'll have to wait another two years despite GW quickly updating everything in a ridiculously and never-before-seen tempo!"?
What the feth is wrong with people..
The evidence is there. Particularly since GW is updating newer codices that need it less before us. Im sure you wouldnt be complaining at all if you were in the same position, lol.
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