Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

Centurions with Blood Claws
Scouts with winged jump packs
a new sculpt of Lord Mephiston

So you want to strap young Space Wolves to your arms?

If it means we get updated, ill strap about anything to my arms, lol

 MajorStoffer wrote:
The only consistent "fact" about GW update cycles is the core Space Marine book will be updated for every edition, and they loosely follow a scheme where they update older books first, but it's by no means a certainty.

Did Guard need an update before Orks? Absolutely not, did the Space Wolves need an update before DE or BA? Nope, still happens.

They do what they want for whatever reason, BA hold the dubious distinction of being either the last or 2nd to last codex to be updated, and probably won't get a major revamp. I expect new plastic assault marines, and maybe one new unit, and then on to trying to right the sinking Fantasy ship.

doubtlessly with more of the stuff which is wrecking 40k.

Ok even as a Blood Angel person I got to call BS on this one. Dark Eldar was a complete Joke and Space Wolf's did not even have a flier in there codex it was so old. Both of those needed an update. I have 3 main armies Blood angels, Space Wolf's and Sisters of Battle. Now if we wish to talk about some real hate from GW Look at that list of those 3 which one do you think gets shafted ever edition. If i need to pull that one out and explain it then please let me know. Does your rock have electricity? Blood Angel had one of the best dexes for a long time I think Eldar was by far the worst when i started and was till 5th even then it was semi good till the latest one which is wtf over powered. Now think about this one if they hit all the other dexes so hard wtf you think is about to happen to tau and eldar. Those 2 are gonna get hit so bad the forums will be screaming till the next edition.

Blood angels were good in 5th ed, okay in 6th until space marines hit, fairly bad after that, and a joke now. I want to be wrong on this, its just a gut feeling backed up by evidence provided by GWs recent releases. If im wrong, and we get BA next month, then i will come back to this thread and apologize. But i highly doubt that we will have our update by the end of january, and if we dont have it by then, well you can kiss your dreams of a new codex goodbye until 8th edition 40k.

Given the current release pace 8th edition will be released next spring anyway.

No. They'll appear eventually. GW is in a mad dash to release as much stuff as they can to try and keep sales up desperately. They'll give a codex to anything by this point.

Fireraven wrote:

 MajorStoffer wrote:
The only consistent "fact" about GW update cycles is the core Space Marine book will be updated for every edition, and they loosely follow a scheme where they update older books first, but it's by no means a certainty.

Did Guard need an update before Orks? Absolutely not, did the Space Wolves need an update before DE or BA? Nope, still happens.

They do what they want for whatever reason, BA hold the dubious distinction of being either the last or 2nd to last codex to be updated, and probably won't get a major revamp. I expect new plastic assault marines, and maybe one new unit, and then on to trying to right the sinking Fantasy ship.

doubtlessly with more of the stuff which is wrecking 40k.

Ok even as a Blood Angel person I got to call BS on this one. Dark Eldar was a complete Joke and Space Wolf's did not even have a flier in there codex it was so old. Both of those needed an update. I have 3 main armies Blood angels, Space Wolf's and Sisters of Battle. Now if we wish to talk about some real hate from GW Look at that list of those 3 which one do you think gets shafted ever edition. If i need to pull that one out and explain it then please let me know. Does your rock have electricity? Blood Angel had one of the best dexes for a long time I think Eldar was by far the worst when i started and was till 5th even then it was semi good till the latest one which is wtf over powered. Now think about this one if they hit all the other dexes so hard wtf you think is about to happen to tau and eldar. Those 2 are gonna get hit so bad the forums will be screaming till the next edition.

Haha I cannot wait to hear the whimpers of those few eldar players (its not the majority), who have kept claiming the eldar dex is not OP and we just need to 'play better'. It will be worth waiting years for.

 Ravenous D wrote:
Its right in the dark eldar book:

Haha. Thats entertaining.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

Centurions with Blood Claws
Scouts with winged jump packs
a new sculpt of Lord Mephiston

So you want to strap young Space Wolves to your arms?

Brain fart on my part, but I think you have something going on there with that idea.
Strapping a young space wolf to your arm should be worth at least a 4++ save

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:
Its right in the dark eldar book:

Haha. Thats entertaining.

Its like the grey knight force requisition in the space wolf dex, Im pretty sure blood angels are next.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:
Its right in the dark eldar book:

Haha. Thats entertaining.

Its like the grey knight force requisition in the space wolf dex, Im pretty sure blood angels are next.

I think BA will come before Christmas.
People will have more money to spend and BA will become a big Christmas deal.

 wuestenfux wrote:

I think BA will come before Christmas.
People will have more money to spend and BA will become a big Christmas deal.

I can see that.

The current release schedule is pure anarchy just releasing things whenever they feel like it. After xmas is usually a guaranteed 40k release but who knows any more, GWs desperate thrashing isn't helping anyone.

Rumors point to Nurgle throughout October with Necrons getting a Halloween release. I'd imagine we'll see Blood Angels in November.

Poly Ranger wrote:

Haha I cannot wait to hear the whimpers of those few eldar players (its not the majority), who have kept claiming the eldar dex is not OP and we just need to 'play better'. It will be worth waiting years for.

By those few Eldar players, you mean Morgoth?

 adamsouza wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

Centurions with Blood Claws
Scouts with winged jump packs
a new sculpt of Lord Mephiston

So you want to strap young Space Wolves to your arms?

Brain fart on my part, but I think you have something going on there with that idea.
Strapping a young space wolf to your arm should be worth at least a 4++ save

Be pretty itchy and mangy though.

Does anyone even know who this "super reliable" belloflostsouls source was?

GW won't shelve BA, that's a ludicrous suggestion.

We'll see them before Xmas, although I hope they're not the December release as that's one month where I'm guaranteed to have less disposable income.

D

Blood Angels aren't shelved, just haven't been released yet. There are two armies left with to be updated, Necrons and Blood Angels. Let's start worrying about Blood Angels being shelved when we start seeing the hardcover codexes being replaced without a Blood Angels codex.

diepotato47 wrote:
Blood Angels aren't shelved, just haven't been released yet. There are two armies left with to be updated, Necrons and Blood Angels. Let's start worrying about Blood Angels being shelved when we start seeing the hardcover codexes being replaced without a Blood Angels codex.

Which is what im honestly expecting to happen, and what im afraid of.

Yes, GW decided to shelf one of the most popular armies (next to UM probably).. Someone has to be last on the list of codex updates and unfortunately BA made that list.

There is a 0% chance of BA ever being shelved.

 th3maninblak wrote:

diepotato47 wrote:
Blood Angels aren't shelved, just haven't been released yet. There are two armies left with to be updated, Necrons and Blood Angels. Let's start worrying about Blood Angels being shelved when we start seeing the hardcover codexes being replaced without a Blood Angels codex.

Which is what im honestly expecting to happen, and what im afraid of.

No. Really not.
BA was one of the most popular 40k armies.
In the third edition it was the most successful behind Nids.
Incidently, Space Hulk fields exactly these armies.
I guess that BA will arrive before Xmas.

 soomemafia wrote:

cyberjonesy wrote:
Did nt bother to read through the first replies but has anyone mailed a box of tissues to this guy already?
I feel so sad that blood angels are nt completely overpowered anymore. Cant wait for their vehicles to be reduced in price again so as to make them completely imbalanced in line with wave serpents. This is exactly what 40k needs right now.

Please bother to think before you post... The claim that updating a bottom-tire army will automatically make them OP is pretty ridiculous and I seriously can't say if you're trolling or just ignorant.

Eldar were bottom tier before 6th edition codex dropped. Eldar players were a dying breed like the Eldar themselves now you can't go a week without seeing a serpent spam list (or even a "im not using serpents" eldar player trying to handicap himself by not taking any transports which just so happen to be overpowered tank equivalents for cheap) in the army list section or a thread about how OP or not OP or how to beat Wave Serpents or Wraithknights.

 th3maninblak wrote:

diepotato47 wrote:
Blood Angels aren't shelved, just haven't been released yet. There are two armies left with to be updated, Necrons and Blood Angels. Let's start worrying about Blood Angels being shelved when we start seeing the hardcover codexes being replaced without a Blood Angels codex.

Which is what im honestly expecting to happen, and what im afraid of.

Stop being so melodramatic !

The Warhammer Fest event T-shirt is Blood Angels (not Necrons, not Nurgle), I wouldn't be surprised if something was announced there this weekend.

That, coupled with the recent Space Hulk re-release means they're far from shelved.

 bocatt wrote:

 soomemafia wrote:

cyberjonesy wrote:
Did nt bother to read through the first replies but has anyone mailed a box of tissues to this guy already?
I feel so sad that blood angels are nt completely overpowered anymore. Cant wait for their vehicles to be reduced in price again so as to make them completely imbalanced in line with wave serpents. This is exactly what 40k needs right now.

Please bother to think before you post... The claim that updating a bottom-tire army will automatically make them OP is pretty ridiculous and I seriously can't say if you're trolling or just ignorant.

Eldar were bottom tier before 6th edition codex dropped. Eldar players were a dying breed like the Eldar themselves now you can't go a week without seeing a serpent spam list (or even a "im not using serpents" eldar player trying to handicap himself by not taking any transports which just so happen to be overpowered tank equivalents for cheap) in the army list section or a thread about how OP or not OP or how to beat Wave Serpents or Wraithknights.

Eldar was a subpar army (not bottom) in 5th.. That's it. All other editions you can care to think of, Eldar was always a top borderline broken power army.

 Zewrath wrote:

 bocatt wrote:

 soomemafia wrote:

cyberjonesy wrote:
Did nt bother to read through the first replies but has anyone mailed a box of tissues to this guy already?
I feel so sad that blood angels are nt completely overpowered anymore. Cant wait for their vehicles to be reduced in price again so as to make them completely imbalanced in line with wave serpents. This is exactly what 40k needs right now.

Please bother to think before you post... The claim that updating a bottom-tire army will automatically make them OP is pretty ridiculous and I seriously can't say if you're trolling or just ignorant.

Eldar were bottom tier before 6th edition codex dropped. Eldar players were a dying breed like the Eldar themselves now you can't go a week without seeing a serpent spam list (or even a "im not using serpents" eldar player trying to handicap himself by not taking any transports which just so happen to be overpowered tank equivalents for cheap) in the army list section or a thread about how OP or not OP or how to beat Wave Serpents or Wraithknights.

Eldar was a subpar army (not bottom) in 5th.. That's it. All other editions you can care to think of, Eldar was always a top borderline broken power army.

At the start of 6th, they were at the bottom until they got their new Dex. Tau, which had been the bottom for most of 5th, actually moved up when 6th released, even before their new Dex.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

 Zewrath wrote:

 bocatt wrote:

 soomemafia wrote:

cyberjonesy wrote:
Did nt bother to read through the first replies but has anyone mailed a box of tissues to this guy already?
I feel so sad that blood angels are nt completely overpowered anymore. Cant wait for their vehicles to be reduced in price again so as to make them completely imbalanced in line with wave serpents. This is exactly what 40k needs right now.

Please bother to think before you post... The claim that updating a bottom-tire army will automatically make them OP is pretty ridiculous and I seriously can't say if you're trolling or just ignorant.

Eldar were bottom tier before 6th edition codex dropped. Eldar players were a dying breed like the Eldar themselves now you can't go a week without seeing a serpent spam list (or even a "im not using serpents" eldar player trying to handicap himself by not taking any transports which just so happen to be overpowered tank equivalents for cheap) in the army list section or a thread about how OP or not OP or how to beat Wave Serpents or Wraithknights.

Eldar was a subpar army (not bottom) in 5th.. That's it. All other editions you can care to think of, Eldar was always a top borderline broken power army.

At the start of 6th, they were at the bottom until they got their new Dex. Tau, which had been the bottom for most of 5th, actually moved up when 6th released, even before their new Dex.

And? On the release of 6th edition, Croissant Necrons was god-tier army, followed by the atrociously powerful biomancy Nidzilla monster mashup. Heck, even IG was considered top due to the Vendetta and access to good and very sought after AA to counter the other aircraft a abusers. I find it difficult to see a point in comparing the armies performance in the beginning of an edition, especially if they get updated further in. Your comparison would have merit, if the Eldar was skipped for an update.

 Kirasu wrote:
Yes, GW decided to shelf one of the most popular armies (next to UM probably).. Someone has to be last on the list of codex updates and unfortunately BA made that list.

There is a 0% chance of BA ever being shelved.

The last blood angel release saw record breaking sales, they sold 6 months worth of product in 3 months. So I highly doubt they are being shelved. Especially with space hulk just released again.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Yes, GW decided to shelf one of the most popular armies (next to UM probably).. Someone has to be last on the list of codex updates and unfortunately BA made that list.

There is a 0% chance of BA ever being shelved.

The last blood angel release saw record breaking sales, they sold 6 months worth of product in 3 months. So I highly doubt they are being shelved. Especially with space hulk just released again.

I wish they would release just the models from Space Hulk, but they just don't want our money that much.

such doom and gloom. I see January at the latest with the current release schedule. BA are one of my armies, and I have been waiting as well. But just because necrons *might* go before us, doesn't mean they are shelving BA.

Hang in there just a few more months, then after january and they aren't released, then you can be worried.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Yes, GW decided to shelf one of the most popular armies (next to UM probably).. Someone has to be last on the list of codex updates and unfortunately BA made that list.

There is a 0% chance of BA ever being shelved.

The last blood angel release saw record breaking sales, they sold 6 months worth of product in 3 months. So I highly doubt they are being shelved. Especially with space hulk just released again.

I wish they would release just the models from Space Hulk, but they just don't want our money that much.

See space hulk is a sore point for me, it means that they have the technology to make really dynamic sculpts and put them on frames like that for less then the cost of what they are charging now, 10 terminators, 1 terminator libby is $150 (the same price of the game) in addition to that you get 22 genestealers, a broodlord and the rest of the game! Personally I think they should remake battle forces into these bundle deals with unique models. It acts as a booster box for people starting.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Yes, GW decided to shelf one of the most popular armies (next to UM probably).. Someone has to be last on the list of codex updates and unfortunately BA made that list.

There is a 0% chance of BA ever being shelved.

The last blood angel release saw record breaking sales, they sold 6 months worth of product in 3 months. So I highly doubt they are being shelved. Especially with space hulk just released again.

I wish they would release just the models from Space Hulk, but they just don't want our money that much.

See space hulk is a sore point for me, it means that they have the technology to make really dynamic sculpts and put them on frames like that for less then the cost of what they are charging now, 10 terminators, 1 terminator libby is $150 (the same price of the game) in addition to that you get 22 genestealers, a broodlord and the rest of the game! Personally I think they should remake battle forces into these bundle deals with unique models. It acts as a booster box for people starting.

Or at least something like Dark Vengeance.

JuniorRS13 wrote:


Hang in there just a few more months, then after january and they aren't released, then you can be worried.

Not a eeasonable request at this juncture I'm afraid. We have been utter sh*t for well over 2 years. We've been most in need of an updated book yet literally every other army has been given priority. A few even twice. And after all the waiting time, we are going to get the "streamlining treatment" where we get the points adjustments we desperately need, but we lose most of what makes us want to play BA. Look what GW did to GK SW and DE.