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-If you do get in trouble with the law you'll get a lighter sentence

Isn't this more "White Female?" considering general rates, but I know you mean white men get better rates compared to those of ethnicity, so it's true.

-You're going to do the same work and make 10-25% more than those with a different chromosome combo.

Proven through actual studies not to be the case (This has been illegal for decades)

The rest are quite true though, just nitpicking a bit. White males do have better rates when it comes to certain aspects of society that others do not.

While all of those things are true in terms of the big picture of the whole country, and are a problem, many of them can vary widely depending on where you actually live. In practice, socio-economic class is going to have just as big, if not a bigger effect. Of course, African-Americans are more likely statistically to be in a lower socio-economic class, but to white people who are also of low socio-economic status, depending on where they live they will also experience many of those things (more likely to be pulled over, assumed to be a criminal, etc.)

Of course, that certainly doesn't negate the fact that white privilege exists, but I would welcome you to try to explain that to a poor white person and see how far that gets you.

Looks like some states that are actually within the districts that struck down bans are playing hardball and are instructing clerks to not issue licenses because "our state has not had any ruling yet". Apperantly elected officials in those states are not aware of how court rulings work.

 Eilif wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
And you know what, Scooty, I'll just admit this:

It's getting really exhausting to be a middle class white male in the media, lately.

I'm tired of being told to 'check my privilege.' I'm tired of being told I have nearly zero reproductive rights when it comes to my kids. (this is more a male thing than a white male thing). I'm tired of being goaded into 'white guilt.' I'm tired of being blamed for people that can't hold themselves accountable for their mistakes (and I feel this doubly, as I work in a bank).

It's really tiring.

And to clarify: yes, I understand that there are areas of my life that have been made easier because I'm white, but those areas have also been made easier because both of my raised in the poverty class with single incomes parents were able to raise themselves into the middle class.

Poor, poor white male it's so tough for you in the media….
…except you get to turn off the radio/TV/Internet and walk outside where you're a white man where...

-You aren't assumed to be a criminal because of your race.
-You're going to do the same work and make 10-25% more than those with a different chromosome combo.
-If you do get in trouble with the law you'll get a lighter sentence
-You're dramatically less likely to get pulled over for a traffic stop.
-You're name alone is going to make it more likely that you get a job interview and a lease on an apartment.
.

Im also constantly told
;My ideas and opinions dont have merit because im white and a male
:My acheivments are not my own and I somehow passed all my tests because Im white.
:If my gender and race afforded me special privileges, why am I at UCSC and not UC Berkely.....oh wait they let all the asians in first.

The 9th Circuit struck down more laws today. I think the tally now is 35 states allows for fabulous marriages!

Even people with privilege can be utter failures.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

Im also constantly told
;My ideas and opinions dont have merit because im white and a male
:My acheivments are not my own and I somehow passed all my tests because Im white.
:If my gender and race afforded me special privileges, why am I at UCSC and not UC Berkely.....oh wait they let all the asians in first.

So what, you're at UCSC! You've achieved and will likely continue do so someone not liking your ideas or opinions shouldn't really be the end of the world. Besides once you get out of the echo chamber of people with overblown opinions that is college, your opinions will carry alot more weight and you can own all your own achievements.

I'm not denying what you said. I'm just saying that when you tally up the goods vs the bads, white folks have it better in almost every measurable quality of life indicator. Also, I'm not trying to pass around guilt. Heaven knows I don't feel guilty for being born white. Why would I? I'm just asking for a little perspective. Take a look outside your situation and instead of whining that some liberal doesn't like your identity, just be thankful for what you have, and maybe do what you can to level the playing field for other folks.

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Even people with privilege can be utter failures.

That's certainly true. Sometimes it's not even any fault of their own.

The only thing I can genuinely say is true there is that I'll be targeted less for traffic stops.

I don't commit any crime so the sentencing is a very moot point for me.

The "wage gap" has been proven to be nonsense (and that fact continues to be ignored).

 cincydooley wrote:
The only thing I can genuinely say is true there is that I'll be targeted less for traffic stops.

That's because you live in Cincinnati. That won't necessarily be true if you live somewhere else.

Thats another thing. The reason I dont get stopped by the cops is I dont commit crimes or act like im gonna

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Thats another thing. The reason I dont get stopped by the cops is I dont commit crimes or act like im gonna

That's not the only reason people get stopped by the police.

I guess those blacks should stop doing that then.

 MrDwhitey wrote:
I guess those blacks should stop doing that then.

That's probably the most ignorant statement in this thread.

Actually, it was sarcasm responding to what I felt was the most ignorant statement in the thread. A post that implied that the only reason people will get stopped is due to acting like or being criminals, when a specific race statistically gets stopped more? Yeah.

 d-usa wrote:
Looks like some states that are actually within the districts that struck down bans are playing hardball and are instructing clerks to not issue licenses because "our state has not had any ruling yet". Apperantly elected officials in those states are not aware of how court rulings work.

I think quite a few of them know exactly how it works, they just don't care. Saying "WE REFUSE TO COMPLY UNLESS YOU FORCE US TO" is a futile last stand if you goal is stopping the destruction of society gay marriage, but it's great for reminding the raving lunatics of the religious right that you hate all the same people that they hate Jesus hates and securing their votes when it's time to implement your "tax the poor to make me and my rich friends even richer" schemes.

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Actually, it was sarcasm responding to what I felt was the most ignorant statement in the thread. A post that implied that the only reason people will get stopped is due to acting like or being criminals, when a specific race statistically gets stopped more? Yeah.

I realize that it was sarcasm. It's still the most ignorant statement in the thread, for a variety of reasons. I agree with your assessment of the previous statement, but you topped it.

And I disagree with you completely on that so whatever.

 MrDwhitey wrote:
And I disagree with you completely on that so whatever.

So you're saying it's not an ignorant statement? Or just that you're excused from making it because you were being sarcastic?

If it were taken as what I truly believe, then yes, it would be an ignorant statement to say that blacks should simply stop being thugs and the police would leave them alone. Which is pretty much what he said if you think about it given the simple context of this discussion. It's not helped by the previous assertation that the only reason he didn't get into UC Berkley or whatever is because "They let all the asians in first".

Boiling it down to point it out? I don't see that as being ignorant. The opposite actually. Hopefully by seeing that he might actually realise how fething absurd what he said is considering the discussion.

 MrDwhitey wrote:
A post that implied that the only reason people will get stopped is due to acting like or being criminals, when a specific race statistically gets stopped more? Yeah.

When it comes to traffic cops, the fast race is the one that gets stopped more

Bullockist, I swear I will cut you.

 Peregrine wrote:

 whembly wrote:
So that means we can finally put this to rest?

Not as long as the republican party can get easy votes from the religious right by fighting to the death to stop gay marriage, no matter how weak their legal argument is.

Not to sound cold but they will be dying off soon and things will start to change a bit easier. But the religious nut jobs who want to force their religion into our laws will always be around. They just wont have as many old people they can scare into voting their way.

Interesting graph via xkcd:

People often say that same-sex marriage now is like interracial marriage in the 60s. But in terms of public opinion, same-sex marriage now is like interracial marriage in the 90s, when it had already been legal nationwide for 30 years.

I'm not surprised.

 Hordini wrote:
I'm not surprised.

We still get people staring frequently. But hey, that's Oklahoma for you.

 d-usa wrote:

 Hordini wrote:
I'm not surprised.

We still get people staring frequently. But hey, that's Oklahoma for you.

You mean at gay couples or interracial couples? Or both?

Let them stare if they want, I suppose. It doesn't necessarily mean they disapprove, they just might not be used to it. And if they do disapprove, who cares? You'll never be able to please everybody.

 Hordini wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Hordini wrote:
I'm not surprised.

We still get people staring frequently. But hey, that's Oklahoma for you.

You mean at gay couples or interracial couples? Or both?

Interracial, me and the wife.

 d-usa wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Hordini wrote:
I'm not surprised.

We still get people staring frequently. But hey, that's Oklahoma for you.

You mean at gay couples or interracial couples? Or both?

Interracial, me and the wife.

Gotcha. That actually surprises me somewhat, given Oklahoma's relatively large Native American population. I'd think people would more used to diversity, in general. But I'm sure someone somewhere would stare in every state.

 d-usa wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Hordini wrote:
I'm not surprised.

We still get people staring frequently. But hey, that's Oklahoma for you.

You mean at gay couples or interracial couples? Or both?

Interracial, me and the wife.

They're probably just pissed at you for losing the tonsure.