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Pacific wrote:See they have taken a photo of IJW's garage then

Pretty much.

GrimDork wrote:That's a *lot* of Infinity swag, jeebus.

Yeah. Let's just say that from a retailer's point of view the sheer breadth of the infinity range is an issue...

P.S. For anyone who wasn't aware, the Arachne Infinity articles on BoW are by me.

I can imagine, how can you devote enough shelf space to that monstrous pile of goodies... Too many UPCs to keep track of etc.

More than 400 SKUs by now just for stuff direct from CB, even with all the consolidation into box sets. I'm mostly an online retailer though, which makes it slightly easier as they don't all have to be on display.

I see that you are now that I look, it is a shame you're on the wrong side of the pond

I've got to say that earlier tip about circular adhesive scrapbooking sticker things was spot on:

They do look good.

:(

N3 rulebook has been delayed according to a poster on BoW

http://www.beastsofwar.com/groups/infinity/forum/topic/n3-rulebook-delayed/

This is not an official word, just picked from the discussion which has followed from the announcement, but apparently it’ll be with distributors on the 15th. That may mean it could be with retailers slightly earlier than the 19th. Either way, if you have it on pre-order and want it before Christmas, then arranging some kind of express shipping for it would probably be a good idea.

Apparently the delay has been at the printers. Looks like my vision of falling asleep while reading after a mighty xmas dinner is less likely now .

It was never going to happen.

Between the shipping delays of the holiday season combining with the requirement for customs agencies to clear the packages, the unique "Spanish Calendar" that Corvus Belli seems to work off of(which "forgot" a holiday which is celebrated every year on the same day), and the seeming ineptitude of the printers they use...it was unicorn horns and gumdrop dreams that N3 would be in anyone's hands before Christmas.
They NEVER should have put a "tentative date" of December 8th for shipping their preorders out, and Interruptor NEVER should have been talking about wanting this to be a "Black Friday item".

This whole second half of the year has been CB lurching from one mismanaged release to another.

Hopefully they stop twiddling their thumbs and release the PDFs and updated Army Builder before/immediately after the New Year, as this release is seemingly wrecking a ton of scheduled events across the US.

 Kanluwen wrote:
This whole second half of the year has been CB lurching from one mismanaged release to another.

Says you. Kanluwen the grumblemuffin curmudgeon.

Their mistakes are not malicious. They're the result of the game's explosive surge in popularity.

I wonder how this will affect direct pre-orders.

I'm sorry, did I say that they were malicious?
No. I said they were "mismanaged".

And quite frankly, Icestorm was a joke with how badly handled it was. That should not have caused their last 2014 release month(November) to get cut down to just two releases.


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 Riquende wrote:
I wonder how this will affect direct pre-orders.

Well, seeing as how they said they weren't going to be shipping on December 8th anyways(as it's a holiday called "The Feast of the Immaculate Conception" that they somehow forgot to account for, despite it being an annual holiday that occurs on the same day...) you will likely not see it this year.

Pacific wrote::(

N3 rulebook has been delayed according to a poster on BoW

As much as I dislike the idea of sending out all our pre-orders that close to Christmas, the tentative shipping date of the 8th was always the date for books to leave CB, not the date for books to leave the distributors.

Kanluwen wrote:They NEVER should have put a "tentative date" of December 8th for shipping their preorders out, and Interruptor NEVER should have been talking about wanting this to be a "Black Friday item".

That was Fernando Liste the CEO, not Gutier/Interruptor, the rules and background writer. I do agree that Black Friday should never have been mentioned.

 Kanluwen wrote:
And quite frankly, Icestorm was a joke with how badly handled it was. That should not have caused their last 2014 release month(November) to get cut down to just two releases.

We've been through this before. The Icestorm pre-orders were the equivalent of about two and a half months' production output. Not two and a half months' new releases - two and a half months entire output for the factory including new releases, restock orders for the 400+ other items in the range and their 15mm historical range.

I'll ask again, because you didn't answer last time - what's your experience in business/production?

My experience is seeing other companies, just as small as Corvus Belli, not getting backlogged by a single big release.

Unicorn Horns

Its upsetting, yea, but this is like a broken record. They didnt think Icestorm would be so popular and blow up the company. It did, and im happy for them. Infinity is one of my favorite games, even though I maybe, MAYBE get to play it once a month if lucky as there is only 1 other person who plays at my FLGS.

Im not gonna rage over it, as it isnt my life, and I have pleanty more games to play till its out. Grabbing pitch forks isnt going to make it come any faster.

What they could do however, that would help, is release the new army builder online ASAP. At the very least people can play with updated minis and use the spolied info from BoW N3 week to play their games in someweird form of 3.0 Beta rules

 Kanluwen wrote:
My experience is seeing other companies, just as small as Corvus Belli, not getting backlogged by a single big release.

Really? What companies would that be, I would like to see how big their big release stack up.

CB gets enough of my $$ for Infinity already.
A delay will let my wallet recover a bit.
With anything rushed to deliver, it's best to see it take longer and done right. Nobody wants some rushed mess full of errors, defects, mistakes & what-have-you.


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 GrimDork wrote:
I see that you are now that I look, it is a shame you're on the wrong side of the pond

I've got to say that earlier tip about circular adhesive scrapbooking sticker things was spot on:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AFRWINA/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687542&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00AFRWIRQ&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0S095E2N77AJFBH04JFA

For those of you who might be
A) Too lazy to leave the house.
B) Want to save a buck.
C) Have a beef with Hobby Lobby (it's an American thing, we're a little special here).

I would have ordered from amazon, or even eBay, but hobby lobby is a five minute drive on a good day and I wanted to try it out in a hurry

We're talking slippage of like one, maybe two weeks here folks. Stop freaking out and saying CB is mismanaged. They do need to learn to hedge their bets a bit, but that's not mismanagement.

 Kanluwen wrote:


This whole second half of the year has been CB lurching from one mismanaged release to another.
.

Yardstick by which Kan measures the performance of CB:


Yardstick by which Kan measures the performance of a certain other wargaming company:

Don't forget, the whole thing can lurch along without certain customers...

 Pacific wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:


This whole second half of the year has been CB lurching from one mismanaged release to another.
.

Yardstick by which Kan measures the performance of CB:

Spoiler:

Yardstick by which Kan measures the performance of a certain other wargaming company:

Spoiler:

Do I know you? Do we interact on a personal basis from day to day?

No? Then I kindly suggest you keep your stupid apologist jokes to yourself.

I have issues with GW. I was NOT a happy camper when it came to the Khaine release two weeks past as the stupid book sold out within three to four minutes. It took the timeframe of me sitting down at the order point at my store and signing in to my account for the stupid book to sell out. But you know what? I know that no matter how vehement or upset or ranty I get--GW isn't going to change.
Just like I know that even when I am at my most irritated and furious with CB and provide them a scathing tirade, as long as I am not calling their employees names or being insulting to their employees--they'll still take those complaints and actually work to better themselves.

So you think I complain just for the fun of it or to be contrary with CB's products vs GW's? Fine. But knock off the apologist crap. It stopped being cute or funny years ago, and all it does is detract from any actual argument you could have made.

OK, OK, OK!

Let's all settle down in here and get back to talking about the game we all love - INFINITY!

I like to think of this thread and the INFINITY sub-forums as our own little Kingdom within the Kingdom that is Dakka Dakka.

And it is usually a little bit happier in this Kingdom withing the Kingdom when compared to...the Kingdom at large!

Noir wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
My experience is seeing other companies, just as small as Corvus Belli, not getting backlogged by a single big release.

Really? What companies would that be, I would like to see how big their big release stack up.

Well. Are we going to get the companies names or not.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AFRWINA/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687542&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00AFRWIRQ&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0S095E2N77AJFBH04JFA

For those of you who might be
A) Too lazy to leave the house.
B) Want to save a buck.
C) Have a beef with Hobby Lobby (it's an American thing, we're a little special here).

In my case, it was Option D: I went to Hobby Lobby and they were all sold out of the epoxy stickers, and they were also sold out of 1" hole punches.

The secrets out! Time to buy them all up and flood the internet in a few months

While I don't want to see the usual Kan bashing come up, he does get away with a lot of CB bashing without ever explaining himself other than 'because I'm Kanluwen and I know better than you'.

Which gets more irritating than a derailment. I too would like to know which other small companies would have handled Icestorms popularity with ease.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AFRWINA/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687542&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00AFRWIRQ&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0S095E2N77AJFBH04JFA

For those of you who might be
A) Too lazy to leave the house.
B) Want to save a buck.
C) Have a beef with Hobby Lobby (it's an American thing, we're a little special here).

In my case, it was Option D: I went to Hobby Lobby and they were all sold out of the epoxy stickers, and they were also sold out of 1" hole punches.

There are other places in the US that sell such things. I found some at Michael's. I believe AC Moore even has them. They're out-of-stock, but listed in Walmart under "Epoxy Stickers"

I just got back from Hobby Lobby, and there's one important thing to note.

The "Spare Parts" packaged stuff isn't in the same part of the scrap booking supplies as the round glue circles. And the previous time that I went there, I was looking for round adhesive circles. These things are basically hard clear plastic discs with some adhesive on them so they'll stick to paper.

Just picked mine up at Hobby Lobby today too . Good idea

They were a little tricky to find for sure, and the employees are unlikely to know what you're talking about. The best mine was able to come up with was regular stickers and the scrapbooking aisle

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:


This whole second half of the year has been CB lurching from one mismanaged release to another.
.

Yardstick by which Kan measures the performance of CB:

Spoiler:

Yardstick by which Kan measures the performance of a certain other wargaming company:

Spoiler:

Do I know you? Do we interact on a personal basis from day to day?

No? Then I kindly suggest you keep your stupid apologist jokes to yourself.

I have issues with GW. I was NOT a happy camper when it came to the Khaine release two weeks past as the stupid book sold out within three to four minutes. It took the timeframe of me sitting down at the order point at my store and signing in to my account for the stupid book to sell out. But you know what? I know that no matter how vehement or upset or ranty I get--GW isn't going to change.
Just like I know that even when I am at my most irritated and furious with CB and provide them a scathing tirade, as long as I am not calling their employees names or being insulting to their employees--they'll still take those complaints and actually work to better themselves.

So you think I complain just for the fun of it or to be contrary with CB's products vs GW's? Fine. But knock off the apologist crap. It stopped being cute or funny years ago, and all it does is detract from any actual argument you could have made.

That was far more of a reply than my post warranted!

Sorry if I touched a nerve, no offense was intended..