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Mount Sion was already present in the N2 rulebook. It's featured in pretty much every Dawn map.

I really hope the Mavericks to not to have the Kum bike. We have 6 of them already. Do something different CB, don't get comfy. I'd rather have cross bikes, Triumphs or quads.

I really hope Adriana bikes use dirt bikes. Or possibly as others mentioned quads. Something that says rough terrain not open roads.

Segways

Nothing says USA more than the humble Segway with it's awesome offroad capability

I would also like to see dirt bikes.

Though, if they wanted to go full cowboy, USAriadna would get horses instead of bikes. If they went that route though, I'd prefer to see cav units mounted on Antipodes.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Segways

Nothing says USA more than the humble Segway with it's awesome offroad capability

WTF?!

I would say nothing says 'USA' and 'bikes' more than the flat track Indy mile!

But I don't know how appropriate those bikes would be..

 Pacific wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Segways

Nothing says USA more than the humble Segway with it's awesome offroad capability

WTF?!

I would say nothing says 'USA' and 'bikes' more than the flat track Indy mile!

But I don't know how appropriate those bikes would be..

Personally, I don't think anything says 'Murica like a good old-fashioned Hot Rod.

Slap on some gumbo mudders and a lift kit then BAM! All terrain vehicle.

 Barzam wrote:
... cav units mounted on Antipodes.

We've already seen one anachronism already, the archer. So maybe archaic cavalry too... Will the Minutemen come armed with halberds for their CCWs? Van Zant does have a battle-axe. Infinity:The fantasy skirmish Game.

So these little posters are leading up to a GenCon reveal of the sectorial? That would be awkward, because the revised rules for sectorials are not due until Christmas with the HSN3.

 Red Harvest wrote:

So these little posters are leading up to a GenCon reveal of the sectorial? That would be awkward, because the revised rules for sectorials are not due until Christmas with the HSN3.

That didn't stop them from releasing Icestorm in the months before N3 launched.

The current speculation, which makes a hell of a lot more sense than the idea of it simply being a "reveal of the Sectorial"(which would be the least interesting thing they have ever done at a GenCon and to a great many people would likely feel like pandering; they didn't reveal the Caledonian Sectorial at a UK event or Merovingian at a French event so why reveal the US Sectorial at a US event?), is that we're going to see a second "Operation" box.

These posters are the same style as what we saw with Icestorm; right down to the formatting(check the corners of the pictures) still retaining the "frosted/iced" look of the Icestorm announcement build-ups.

Bostria has also said that the next box is Yu Jing v. Ariadna, and it's not beyond belief that USAriadna forces would be heavily favored in the Ariadna portion of the box similar to how Corregidor and Neoterra were heavily favored in Icestorm.

I wear a cowboy hat and shoot my bow all the time, no issues. I find that it increases my aim because it's as if the soul of John wayne himself is guiding me! *sarcasm at the end fella's* Though in all honesty if they're going to do grunt's right I hope they give them a M1911A1 style pistol, nothing says old 'Murica like that pistol.

Yu Jing v. Ariadna in an Icestorm sequel? Interesting. I have no minis for either faction (Yojimbo is a merc) and have no interest in getting any. So I'll just watch this one.

We started getting firm details about Icestorm sometime in July, IIRC-- a photo of the contents anyway, so we have 2-3 weeks before anything firm.

Jannissary box preview next week I guess.

We'll this years Gencon is starting two weeks earlier than last year, so maybe only a week until we get info?

About the new starter set, there is an interview with Gutier Lusquiños (the lead designer of Infinity) in the magazine 'Tabletop Gaming' (https://www.facebook.com/tabletopgamingmagazine)

Really interesting interview, some of the questions in there..

Would you like to create similar starter sets for the other factions? [Reference discussion on Operation: Icestorm in the previous question]

Maybe in the future, but not this year, that is sure

Have you ever thought about turning Infinity into a videogame?

Yes there were at least three projects about that, and even with major companies, but eventually they were not successful. It is probably just a question of time when a company will release an Infinity video game, even if it's just a very simple one for a mobile phone or tablet. Ultimately though, our business is the miniature industry, so we are not going to spend too much time worrying about that.

What's next for the Infinity Universe? Can you give us any information on Archeron Falls?

Well, I would like to point [out] 'Archeron Falls' was a working title, not necessarily the final one, even if it has been very well known. We want to keep developing the Tohaa, as they are the newcomers in the Infinity universe and their players need more units to reach the same levels as the other factions. There are a lot of old models that need to be re-sculpted, and the same happens with previously released rules that need to be optimised to the N3 ruleset. A lot of work and interesting times for the Infinity players are coming!

I like that they are focusing on bringing old stuff up to scratch before worrying about moving on. It is a commendable practice, and certainly there is enough ancient stuff to be redone (Guijia in Yu Jing is older than time itself, I think) and newer profiles to introduce (Zhayedan and Govads for Haqq, for example) to justify that policy.

 Pacific wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Segways

Nothing says USA more than the humble Segway with it's awesome offroad capability

WTF?!

I would say nothing says 'USA' and 'bikes' more than the flat track Indy mile!

But I don't know how appropriate those bikes would be..

I can't see anything else being any more inappropriate than the Haqqislam choppers or the Yu Jing crotch rockets. At least ALEPH (or whoever supplies their bikes; Yojimbo's got one too. I think it's a related model to the Aragoto bike) has tried to fit off-road tyres to theirs.

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
I wear a cowboy hat and shoot my bow all the time, no issues. I find that it increases my aim because it's as if the soul of John wayne himself is guiding me! *sarcasm at the end fella's* Though in all honesty if they're going to do grunt's right I hope they give them a M1911A1 style pistol, nothing says old 'Murica like that pistol.

John Wayne is your spirit guide.

The 1911 is pretty damn american. There is something about that pistol I really like but don't know what (Never fired one)

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Segways

Nothing says USA more than the humble Segway with it's awesome offroad capability

WTF?!

I would say nothing says 'USA' and 'bikes' more than the flat track Indy mile!

But I don't know how appropriate those bikes would be..

I can't see anything else being any more inappropriate than the Haqqislam choppers or the Yu Jing crotch rockets. At least ALEPH (or whoever supplies their bikes; Yojimbo's got one too. I think it's a related model to the Aragoto bike) has tried to fit off-road tyres to theirs.

Why do poeple keep thinking Haqqislam choppers are made the way the look in world. Do you know how much aftermarket kits we put on are bikes here. Hint: Harley don't even sound like what you think Harley sound like without aftermarket tips and that just the start to a true Harley. Now think what war based tribes with limit tech would fit to there bikes.

 carlos13th wrote:

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
I wear a cowboy hat and shoot my bow all the time, no issues. I find that it increases my aim because it's as if the soul of John wayne himself is guiding me! *sarcasm at the end fella's* Though in all honesty if they're going to do grunt's right I hope they give them a M1911A1 style pistol, nothing says old 'Murica like that pistol.

John Wayne is your spirit guide.

The 1911 is pretty damn american. There is something about that pistol I really like but don't know what (Never fired one)

Before you do fire one, I suggest you do some weight training. It is a heavy piece of work. I would have thought the Colt "Peacemaker" would be the iconic American pistol. <shrug>

GenCon starts 30 July this year, 2 weeks before the Interplanetary (CBs own tournament) so, less than 6 weeks off. Who from CB will be there this year?

 Pacific wrote:
About the new starter set, there is an interview with Gutier Lusquiños (the lead designer of Infinity) in the magazine 'Tabletop Gaming' (https://www.facebook.com/tabletopgamingmagazine)

Spoiler:

Really interesting interview, some of the questions in there..

Would you like to create similar starter sets for the other factions? [Reference discussion on Operation: Icestorm in the previous question]

Maybe in the future, but not this year, that is sure

Have you ever thought about turning Infinity into a videogame?

Yes there were at least three projects about that, and even with major companies, but eventually they were not successful. It is probably just a question of time when a company will release an Infinity video game, even if it's just a very simple one for a mobile phone or tablet. Ultimately though, our business is the miniature industry, so we are not going to spend too much time worrying about that.

What's next for the Infinity Universe? Can you give us any information on Archeron Falls?

Well, I would like to point [out] 'Archeron Falls' was a working title, not necessarily the final one, even if it has been very well known. We want to keep developing the Tohaa, as they are the newcomers in the Infinity universe and their players need more units to reach the same levels as the other factions. There are a lot of old models that need to be re-sculpted, and the same happens with previously released rules that need to be optimised to the N3 ruleset. A lot of work and interesting times for the Infinity players are coming!

Thanks for posting this.

There are a lot of old models that need to be re-sculpted, and the same happens with previously released rules that need to be optimised to the N3 ruleset. A lot of work and interesting times for the Infinity players are coming!

Nice sentiment. We will see how it works out.

That interview gives me hope that it'll just be the starter and not another 2-player box.

 Barzam wrote:
That interview gives me hope that it'll just be the starter and not another 2-player box.

There not really much of a chance of a new 2 player starter anyways, despite the same few people pushing the rumor they started themselves saying so. CB must know they need to stabilize their production infrastructure and settle into their new place before another massive push. It odd that the same people saying CB needs to learn from the O:IS mistakes are the same ones pushing the new 2 player starter idea.

Noir wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
That interview gives me hope that it'll just be the starter and not another 2-player box.

There not really much of a chance of a new 2 player starter anyways, despite the same few people pushing the rumor they started themselves saying so. CB must know they need to stabilize their production infrastructure and settle into their new place before another massive push. It odd that the same people saying CB needs to learn from the O:IS mistakes are the same ones pushing the new 2 player starter idea.

Saying "I hope they do this, that would be awesome" is not starting a rumor.
Despite all the complaining on boards like this one, Icestorm was a resounding success. Wouldn't they want to capitalize on that with another type of 2 player experience? If they went to make a HS box, one would think CB would now be better prepared to handle the demand. They have a better idea of the scope of the audience they're reaching after the big N3 release.
Every month now CB is revisiting old models, condensing and updating their boxes & blisters, making the range more manageable. The more stuff they release, the easier their work becomes to package and ship product.
And really, how much work are we talking here? Icestorm wasn't some grandiose package. It was some simple printed material (simple compared to printing the N3 books), 2 starter sets (which they would be making already as independent releases), & 2 exclusive models.
Yes, it's purely speculation that they'll do it. However, if they were to announce it at GenCon, CB would likely be able to deliver a HS 2-player box set by December/January.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

Noir wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
That interview gives me hope that it'll just be the starter and not another 2-player box.

There not really much of a chance of a new 2 player starter anyways, despite the same few people pushing the rumor they started themselves saying so. CB must know they need to stabilize their production infrastructure and settle into their new place before another massive push. It odd that the same people saying CB needs to learn from the O:IS mistakes are the same ones pushing the new 2 player starter idea.

Saying "I hope they do this, that would be awesome" is not starting a rumor.
Despite all the complaining on boards like this one, Icestorm was a resounding success. Wouldn't they want to capitalize on that with another type of 2 player experience? If they went to make a HS box, one would think CB would now be better prepared to handle the demand. They have a better idea of the scope of the audience they're reaching after the big N3 release.
Every month now CB is revisiting old models, condensing and updating their boxes & blisters, making the range more manageable. The more stuff they release, the easier their work becomes to package and ship product.
And really, how much work are we talking here? Icestorm wasn't some grandiose package. It was some simple printed material (simple compared to printing the N3 books), 2 starter sets (which they would be making already as independent releases), & 2 exclusive models.
Yes, it's purely speculation that they'll do it. However, if they were to announce it at GenCon, CB would likely be able to deliver a HS 2-player box set by December/January.

About 3-4 month of their total production ability, if O:IS is anything to go by.

Army Box... think Army Box...

Noir wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

Noir wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
That interview gives me hope that it'll just be the starter and not another 2-player box.

There not really much of a chance of a new 2 player starter anyways, despite the same few people pushing the rumor they started themselves saying so. CB must know they need to stabilize their production infrastructure and settle into their new place before another massive push. It odd that the same people saying CB needs to learn from the O:IS mistakes are the same ones pushing the new 2 player starter idea.

Saying "I hope they do this, that would be awesome" is not starting a rumor.
Despite all the complaining on boards like this one, Icestorm was a resounding success. Wouldn't they want to capitalize on that with another type of 2 player experience? If they went to make a HS box, one would think CB would now be better prepared to handle the demand. They have a better idea of the scope of the audience they're reaching after the big N3 release.
Every month now CB is revisiting old models, condensing and updating their boxes & blisters, making the range more manageable. The more stuff they release, the easier their work becomes to package and ship product.
And really, how much work are we talking here? Icestorm wasn't some grandiose package. It was some simple printed material (simple compared to printing the N3 books), 2 starter sets (which they would be making already as independent releases), & 2 exclusive models.
Yes, it's purely speculation that they'll do it. However, if they were to announce it at GenCon, CB would likely be able to deliver a HS 2-player box set by December/January.

About 3-4 month of their total production ability, if O:IS is anything to go by.

They were woefully unprepared for the demand for Icestorm. If they intend to do any releases that big again, they won't underestimate the market interest.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Segways

Nothing says USA more than the humble Segway with it's awesome offroad capability

WTF?!

I would say nothing says 'USA' and 'bikes' more than the flat track Indy mile!

But I don't know how appropriate those bikes would be..

I can't see anything else being any more inappropriate than the Haqqislam choppers or the Yu Jing crotch rockets. At least ALEPH (or whoever supplies their bikes; Yojimbo's got one too. I think it's a related model to the Aragoto bike) has tried to fit off-road tyres to theirs.

The Kum choppers have off road tyres though (well, sci fi off road tyres)... I mean, I agree that the tarmac scraping style of a chopper isn't fantastically thought out for a bunch of guys that do off road riding, but of all the things to pick out, you picked that?

 Red Harvest wrote:

 carlos13th wrote:

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
I wear a cowboy hat and shoot my bow all the time, no issues. I find that it increases my aim because it's as if the soul of John wayne himself is guiding me! *sarcasm at the end fella's* Though in all honesty if they're going to do grunt's right I hope they give them a M1911A1 style pistol, nothing says old 'Murica like that pistol.

John Wayne is your spirit guide.

The 1911 is pretty damn american. There is something about that pistol I really like but don't know what (Never fired one)

Before you do fire one, I suggest you do some weight training. It is a heavy piece of work. I would have thought the Colt "Peacemaker" would be the iconic American pistol. <shrug>

GenCon starts 30 July this year, 2 weeks before the Interplanetary (CBs own tournament) so, less than 6 weeks off. Who from CB will be there this year?

 Pacific wrote:
About the new starter set, there is an interview with Gutier Lusquiños (the lead designer of Infinity) in the magazine 'Tabletop Gaming' (https://www.facebook.com/tabletopgamingmagazine)

Spoiler:

Really interesting interview, some of the questions in there..

Would you like to create similar starter sets for the other factions? [Reference discussion on Operation: Icestorm in the previous question]

Maybe in the future, but not this year, that is sure

Have you ever thought about turning Infinity into a videogame?

Yes there were at least three projects about that, and even with major companies, but eventually they were not successful. It is probably just a question of time when a company will release an Infinity video game, even if it's just a very simple one for a mobile phone or tablet. Ultimately though, our business is the miniature industry, so we are not going to spend too much time worrying about that.

What's next for the Infinity Universe? Can you give us any information on Archeron Falls?

Well, I would like to point [out] 'Archeron Falls' was a working title, not necessarily the final one, even if it has been very well known. We want to keep developing the Tohaa, as they are the newcomers in the Infinity universe and their players need more units to reach the same levels as the other factions. There are a lot of old models that need to be re-sculpted, and the same happens with previously released rules that need to be optimised to the N3 ruleset. A lot of work and interesting times for the Infinity players are coming!

Thanks for posting this.

Yeah you're not joking they are quite heavy. And I do agree the peacemaker and the 1911 are both pretty iconic. Maybe the hardcases with the peacemaker and the grunts with 1911's would be how that would work, even though they don't really fire the same thing it'd just be really american. Anyways I can't wait for archeron falls and I'm waiting patiently for anything else to come along.

[Despite all the complaining on boards like this one, Icestorm was a resounding success.

You'll have to elaborate, otherwise you're imagining things or simply claiming something that is not true. I've read complaints how it was handled (unclear answer concerning LE in the content, prioritisation of different markets and time delays) and consider them valid. I also love Dakka, posters play other games and will offer different views, it's quite refreshing from official and its spin off Data Sphere boards.

 Knight wrote:

[Despite all the complaining on boards like this one, Icestorm was a resounding success.

You'll have to elaborate, otherwise you're imagining things or simply claiming something that is not true. I've read complaints how it was handled (unclear answer concerning LE in the content, prioritisation of different markets and time delays) and consider them valid. I also love Dakka, posters play other games and will offer different views, it's quite refreshing from official and its spin off Data Sphere boards.

Its an argument to flesh out on another thread. And I'm sure there are many of them.
In short...
It was pretty clear to me. From Carlos in the BoW videos:
1: Preorder O:I and you get the CSU lady.
2: The Father Knight & Rev. Healer, not packaged in normal starters, come with O:I regardless.
3: The rules included are merely starter rules. The complete N3 book will follow.

The delays we suffered were due to an an overwhelming demand. That is a GOOD thing. It clearly indicates the game is growing as a share of the market. More players is good for business and the community. They're not a huge company. I do not begrudge them some growing pains because the quality is still up there among the best.

With the experience under their belt and a better idea of how many people would preorder, CB is now better prepared to try again with a 2 player box for HS. This is why I am hoping they decide to do it.

I'll put it another way though.
Image that CB does indeed make a 2 player starter box (a la Operation: Icestorm) to come out with HS.
I could understand having no interest if it's 2 factions you don't play... I'd be hesitant if it were Tohaa & Aleph for example.
However, who here would NOT buy it because they were so very disappointed with Operation: Icestorm?

I think if people were very disappointed with O:I, they probably wouldn't be buying anything else at all anyway..

That interview gives me hope that it'll just be the starter and not another 2-player box.

Is that something that CB would likely make such a fuss about with the pre-Gencon amble?

I wonder, if it's not going to be a new Two-player starter set along the lines of Icestorm (assuming Gutier is not telling porkies in that interview), what else is it likely to be?

I like the cowboy hat guy. No, not everyone in America wears a cowboy hat but remember that Ariadna are expats. There's a big Aussie and Canadian expat community here and on Australia Day/Canada Day there's hats with corks dangling and red maple leafs painted onto faces all over the place. When you're tens of thousands of years from home that sort of stuff tends to become more important. Plus, he looks like the Arrow, which is badass.