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I have to say I'm always supremely disappointed with Iguana TAGs in battle reports. They NEVER live past turn 1. So often I've seen them lit up like a Christmas tree and usually the pilot dies before he hits the ground. I wish they were just a LITTLE tougher because it's such an awesome model.
Hopefully they redo the Szalamandra soon because that could be an amazing resculpt. The current one is still one of my favorites, but it's too damned small for such a powerful TAG.

ski2060 wrote:
Traktor Muls just use the rules for Guided now. Guided shots can be hacked with U-Turn now :(

I believe those Minutemen were out of LOS due to the smoke that Carlos launched with his Maverick up to the top of that building.

Where does it mention this for the Traktor Muls? Is it buried in some FAQ PDF? Or maybe on some official rules forum?
This is exactly why AF has to be delayed at least until we have the HS rules updated for N3!

Ah yes the smoke, you are correct. They kept moving the template so I forgot when I went to rewind to that point.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

Where does it mention this for the Traktor Muls? Is it buried in some FAQ PDF? Or maybe on some official rules forum?
This is exactly why AF has to be delayed at least until we have the HS rules updated for N3!

It's in the HS + CP Weapons Chart update PDF. It's not so much that it says they can be hacked, it's that the new profiles say they use Guided and don't say they can't be hacked any more.

 Barzam wrote:
All I care is that we might get that Varuna Sectorial and an official Mercenary faction (or two). It's the mercs I want most of all.

In case you haven't seen it. This is text that was missing from the English language N3 book, "Players can only add Mercenary Troops to their Army List by mutual accord, or if such troops are available for their faction, or their Sectorial Army (see Infinity. Human Sphere)." IIRC, The White Stars will be one of the mercenary factions, and Varuna will definitely be a Pan-O sectorial, along with Svalarheim.

The proposed new sectorials that I've heard of, FYI:
Varuna (Pan-O)
Svalarheim (Pan-O)
Svalarheim (Yu Jing)
[Cannot recall name] (Yu Jing)
Caliphate/Al Medinat (Haqq)
Khanate (Haqq)
Tunguska (Nomads)
Vedic (ALEPH)
Black Hand (Nomads)
USAriadna (Ariadna)
Kazaks[name?] (Ariadna)
EI sectorial (CA)
White Stars (Mercenary)
[name unknown to me] (Mercenary)

That leaves 3 unknown to me. Is there to be a Sygmaa (CA) sectorial? A third ALEPH sectorial? the O-12 faction? This would add to 16. Feel free to add corrections.

Anyway, you could always hack guided missiles, you just could not hack the traktorMul itself.

O-12 is supposed to arrive in that book, so we'll see. They might even drop with a sectorial.

I corrected those a page back

Vedic is possibly a no. CB said they were considering pushing it to the next book due to difficulties with the sectorial.

Black Hand was possibly going to be rolled into Tunguska for the same reason.

The other Merc company is Beyhan Resources. The other Yu Jing sectorial is the Invincible Army.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:
huh? I distinctly remember Shas being a sectorial already. Granted, you might be forgiven for never noticing in ITS/specialist-centered competitive environments

There were rumours that they weren't going to be in HSN3 and instead in Acheron Falls.

..Ah, thanks, and sorry for the wisecrack then
That would be disappointing.

Anyone else getting an error on the infinity army list page?

http://www.infinitythegame.com/army

Looks like they're having issues with their website.

Yup, whole site broken here as well.
http://anyplace.it/ia3/ia.html will work in the mean time if you're really aching for your fix

 Bolognesus wrote:
Yup, whole site broken here as well.
http://anyplace.it/ia3/ia.html will work in the mean time if you're really aching for your fix

Oh hey thanks. I thought these guys were not going to update their app for N3. Their army builder was one of my favorites for 2nd edition.

Hasn't been posted here, not sure if it is legit or just a fan made image.

It's an image from the BoW N3 HS video. It's just a mockup they used to visualize the concept of the new HS book replacing old HS and C.

It's also been confirmed that the new book will be two books in a slipcase (fluff+rules) just like N3. Also, there is a strong possibility that the books will be white, but not certain yet.

Everything else is just a mockup for the sake of visualization.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:
Yup, whole site broken here as well.
http://anyplace.it/ia3/ia.html will work in the mean time if you're really aching for your fix

Oh hey thanks. I thought these guys were not going to update their app for N3. Their army builder was one of my favorites for 2nd edition.

I know the feeling. This was said to be a temporary thing until they come up with a more polished version but I haven't heard much of that anymore and you know how it can go with these fanmade things. This version works AOK though.

Well, until CB says otherwise, I think the Exrah Commisariat has a possibility of being a new CA sectorial. Hopefully with some bug men that look more like something out of Dunbine rather than the vaguely retro bug-eyed monster look the Concordat had.

They said that the Exrah are dead, so I would be surprised if they bring them back.

No, they said the existing range was dead. They also said that those guys belonged to the Exrah Concordat, who were wiped out for selling gear to the humans. The Exrah Commisariat was then contracted by the EI to fill the same role.

Some people are speculating that full on rules for boarding actions will be introduced in AF. The Commisariat are supposed to be supplying not just ships, but shipboard security as well. I could see them introducing them as a small sectorial.

USA had stronger list in that report. I do think coordinated order requires regular and command order to be used, Interventions can use impersonation through their hacking device. They are considered the best human hackers for a reason.

Rather disappointing report, mostly because composition match up. Sin eater, Moira HMG, REM, Chimera instead of a TAG would make interesting game. Carlo's smack talk was extremely annoying.

 Knight wrote:
USA had stronger list in that report. I do think coordinated order requires regular and command order to be used, Interventions can use impersonation through their hacking device. They are considered the best human hackers for a reason.

Rather disappointing report, mostly because composition match up. Sin eater, Moira HMG, REM, Chimera instead of a TAG would make interesting game. Carlo's smack talk was extremely annoying.

They're clearly pushing the Icestorm contents along with the recommended Nomad Iguana and Interventors. Not the best possible list, just stuff the BoW viewers are most likely familiar with.

First section of the BoW weekender this week is carlos talking about Gencon and things. RPG will be up for preorder in August, includes core book and first campaign based in Paradiso.

Bigger venue for the seminars and Angel's masterclasses so more space.

Angel is putting out a second book, sold 50,000 of the first one, best selling mini painting book there is by a huge margin.
2nd book will have more pages, more text to explain and better graphics Will feature weathering sections and airbrush and brush specific tutorials.
Won't be out till November 2016. No limited edition this time, reprinted as much as is needed.
Pre orders are likely to have a mini to go with them, but it's not decided yet.

Fluffwise the Exrah still exist as supporting faction, but gamewise they are gone and dead. They did not work out and there will be no resources spend on them.

The Combined Army has two plausible reasonable sectorials lined up for it: The El sectorial, and the occupied Tohaa territories sectorial.

The Exrah coming back would require overcoming the problems that got them removed:
* Inconsistent designs between unpopular models.
* Problematic profiles.
* Problematic rules interactions (A TAG with Airborne Deployment that puts down an AOE when it lands, in an edition where AOE's generate AROs. How's that supposed to work? )

Hoping for the Exrah to come back is like hoping for Firefly to come back. You can't fault someone for hoping, but it ain't likely.

 solkan wrote:
The Combined Army has two plausible reasonable sectorials lined up for it: The El sectorial, and the occupied Tohaa territories sectorial.

The Exrah coming back would require overcoming the problems that got them removed:
* Inconsistent designs between unpopular models.
* Problematic profiles.
* Problematic rules interactions (A TAG with Airborne Deployment that puts down an AOE when it lands, in an edition where AOE's generate AROs. How's that supposed to work? )

Hoping for the Exrah to come back is like hoping for Firefly to come back. You can't fault someone for hoping, but it ain't likely.

They aren't really issues now though are they because they could just start again. New models means there's no inconsistent designs and there'd be all new profiles. I agree we probably won't see them but those are very much non issues if they brought them back because they'd have a clean slate.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
They're clearly pushing the Icestorm contents along with the recommended Nomad Iguana and Interventors. Not the best possible list, just stuff the BoW viewers are most likely familiar with.

USA's composition meshes better, if you're reaching for newer or simply casual audience it should be a rather secondary worry that they would feel unfamiliar. Most likely they're going to have a lot more on their platter, besides the finer questions of compositions and game development. Honestly, my suspicion is more tied to the available collection of Nomad and PanO that were available in the BoW studio. If I embrace the idea that CB wanted to focus on presenting the USA and its game dynamic and design, it also becomes more understandable as to why forces were as they were. I would love to have every sectorial to have its BoW week, if that should be the case.

I was watching this earlier, and around the 20 minute mark they start talking about Angel's book (and Volume 2 which is coming out later this year). If I'm not mistaken, Carlos said Angel sold 50,000 copies of Volume 1?!

 Sidstyler wrote:
I was watching this earlier, and around the 20 minute mark they start talking about Angel's book (and Volume 2 which is coming out later this year). If I'm not mistaken, Carlos said Angel sold 50,000 copies of Volume 1?!

It was a pretty decent book if you're into majority Airbrushing. Honestly I was disappointed being a primitive brush jockey, but the fantastic Joan of Arc helped ease the pain and eventually a guy more into airbrushing than me bought the book.

All in all it was a pretty interesting read and I can definitely see why it sold well.

TBH I think the airbrush is the way forward for the basics, it will not necessarily save you time, but it will make the base much more smooth.

 Sidstyler wrote:
I was watching this earlier, and around the 20 minute mark they start talking about Angel's book (and Volume 2 which is coming out later this year). If I'm not mistaken, Carlos said Angel sold 50,000 copies of Volume 1?!

Are you certain that he did not say 15,000? Angel printed 5,500 for the first run. It seems improbable that he printed another 44,500 for a second run.

I do not see room for the Exrah except possibly as individual merc units included in HSN3 as legacy support. The sectorials still "in the air" are the Vedic, and the Black Hand then? We'll learn more at GenCon, assuming it is not 100% USAriadna.

 Red Harvest wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
I was watching this earlier, and around the 20 minute mark they start talking about Angel's book (and Volume 2 which is coming out later this year). If I'm not mistaken, Carlos said Angel sold 50,000 copies of Volume 1?!

Are you certain that he did not say 15,000? Angel printed 5,500 for the first run. It seems improbable that he printed another 44,500 for a second run.

When I watched it, I thought he said 50,000. Then I thought "hang on a minute... "

I remember the first print run being 5,000 or so and then a comment (possibly on Mayacast) mentioned 15,000 being the figure, as it was higher than anything else sold so far.

I just chalked it up to his accent.

No, Carlos said 50K books sold. Angel will start with 10K copies of Volume 2 and reprint as necessary.

You guys were right. I just could not hear the N in Carlos' reply. Angel confirmed on Facebook that it was 15K books sold.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
TBH I think the airbrush is the way forward for the basics, it will not necessarily save you time, but it will make the base much more smooth.

You young guns can keep your new fangled airbrushes. Us old fogies can still whip up a pretty smooth coat with our cave man tools.