I think Dark Eldar is the first unique and good codex overall GW has made in a while

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**Mr Morden**

ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
Does a Wraith Army work without the expensive supplement? Yes, of course it ''can work'', but it's not playing at the full effect. And for the record, compare what you get the in Covens supplement to what you got in the Iyanden supplement and you will see a massive improvement. The Coven supplement got 5 (?) new formations, all of which are good enough for gaming, some of which could be considered competitive. You get new Warlord Traits, army wide special rules, Relics and a massive amount of fluff and artwork.

So yes, Coven armies work, just throw some Grots in a Webway Portal and you can't go to far wrong, but if you are playing a Coven army and not using the Supplement, you are handicapping yourself. I guess it's expensive, but at least it contains more then the Knight Codex or the Scions one...

Yeah I have the Iyanden Supplement - that was pretty poor considering the opporunities for actual content - the fluff wasn't good at all, no Iyanna SC rules or model, no unique units, esp when compared to the Farsight one - you get Warlord Traits, relics and army rules in Iyanden...........

I also have the Knights Codex and was much happier wiht this - at least it was new interesting fluff....................

Not read the Covens Codex hence my question - but seriously resent having to play an extra £30 for it.............and still no decent Wych Cult army?

**AlexRae**

I'll wait and see. The 'dataslate' format allows for GW to revisit each race and release new units/characters for them without the need for a brand new codex revision. So when Necrons and BA are done and out the way, I hope to see more Krom Dragongazes and Gruk Face-Rippas.

**Mr Morden**

AlexRae wrote:
I'll wait and see. The 'dataslate' format allows for GW to revisit each race and release new units/characters for them without the need for a brand new codex revision. So when Necrons and BA are done and out the way, I hope to see more Krom Dragongazes and Gruk Face-Rippas.

or make you pay even more money for stuff that should have been in the intial Codex (like the Supplement) :( )

**Fireraven**

Mr Morden wrote:
AlexRae wrote:
I'll wait and see. The 'dataslate' format allows for GW to revisit each race and release new units/characters for them without the need for a brand new codex revision. So when Necrons and BA are done and out the way, I hope to see more Krom Dragongazes and Gruk Face-Rippas.

or make you pay even more money for stuff that should have been in the intial Codex (like the Supplement) :( )

Is it not the Model for any company to get people to buy their stuff ?
I think future buying on products is a must for any company. I might be in the wrong crowd. I think GW is paving the way for future exspansions of the industry yet again. Lot easier to update with data slates giving the customer instant access then printing up codexes every few months.

**Blacksails**

Fireraven wrote:

Is it not the Model for any company to get people to buy their stuff ?
I think future buying on products is a must for any company. I might be in the wrong crowd. I think GW is paving the way for future exspansions of the industry yet again. Lot easier to update with data slates giving the customer instant access then printing up codexes every few months.

If anything, GW is behind the curve.

Other companies already offer free versions of the rules online, that are updated regularly with new stuff, FAQs, and Erratas.

GW hasn't paved the way to gak in a long time.

**Exergy**

ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
Does a Wraith Army work without the expensive supplement? Yes, of course it ''can work'', but it's not playing at the full effect. And for the record, compare what you get the in Covens supplement to what you got in the Iyanden supplement and you will see a massive improvement. The Coven supplement got 5 (?) new formations, all of which are good enough for gaming, some of which could be considered competitive. You get new Warlord Traits, army wide special rules, Relics and a massive amount of fluff and artwork.

So yes, Coven armies work, just throw some Grots in a Webway Portal and you can't go to far wrong, but if you are playing a Coven army and not using the Supplement, you are handicapping yourself. I guess it's expensive, but at least it contains more then the Knight Codex or the Scions one...

but the Coven Suppliment also limits ones ability to take any reliable ranged anti tank. It pars down the codex signifigantly and limits you to 4 units and 1 HQ.

**generalchaos34**

Exergy wrote:
ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
Does a Wraith Army work without the expensive supplement? Yes, of course it ''can work'', but it's not playing at the full effect. And for the record, compare what you get the in Covens supplement to what you got in the Iyanden supplement and you will see a massive improvement. The Coven supplement got 5 (?) new formations, all of which are good enough for gaming, some of which could be considered competitive. You get new Warlord Traits, army wide special rules, Relics and a massive amount of fluff and artwork.

So yes, Coven armies work, just throw some Grots in a Webway Portal and you can't go to far wrong, but if you are playing a Coven army and not using the Supplement, you are handicapping yourself. I guess it's expensive, but at least it contains more then the Knight Codex or the Scions one...

but the Coven Suppliment also limits ones ability to take any reliable ranged anti tank. It pars down the codex signifigantly and limits you to 4 units and 1 HQ.

But its also fun as hell. Besides, nothing is stopping you from taking blasterborn in raiders, or even another CAD