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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 01:48:48
Subject: Unpainted Versus Painted
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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This message was edited 9 times. Last update was at 2015/06/27 21:24:31
Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 01:51:15
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Paint them for him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 01:52:55
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Confessor Of Sins
WA, USA
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Accept that some people don't value painting as highly as you.
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Ouze wrote:
Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 01:53:01
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Hunting Glade Guard
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My best and most well-working solution is to find someone quality, who is local, and is willing to paint his guys for a pretty decent price. Backing this up with suggesting he do it piecemeal and that he'll never have to do it himself (while making them look like what he wants,) normally works for me.
Mebbe I'm just persuasive.
Alternatively, paint them yourself, paint with them, or just stop worrying about it.
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My mode is that I'm meaner than the average. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 01:57:17
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Making Stuff
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You don't.
If he's not interested in painting, that's entirely up to him. If playing against unpainted models bothers you, find someone else to play. It's not up to you to convince someone that they're doing their hobby wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 02:14:52
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Nasty Nob
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You should totally take some grots and make him color by number basecoat it
Then, after he's spent his time basecoating.. show him how awesome those gitz look with some wash on 'em
He'll want to paint them again.. and with you to play against a coupole times a week he'll want to paint just to show'em off to you.
Or just find someone who isn't TFG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 02:15:36
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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What insaniak said. He obviously doesn't want to paint, stop getting upset over it, or pay for someone else to paint the stuff for him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 02:17:37
Subject: Re:My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Leutnant
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Also, some folks like to have flexibility in what they field with relation to what they spend on the hobby. Unpainted Space Marine models, for example, give you the option of running whatever chapter you like with the same models - significantly cheaper than having separate painted armies of Ultramarines, Salamanders, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 02:19:30
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/06/27 21:25:06
Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 02:59:01
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Nasty Nob
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nope nope nope.. tell him I said "Prime them sons of bitches" "then basecoat them with one drop flow improver and two drops of paint" "Then wash them in GW's wash". They look spectacular I was not a believer at one time, I am no artist they look amazing now.
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I am the kinda ork that takes his own washing machine apart, puts new bearings in it, then puts it back together, and it still works. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 03:02:31
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
In the warp, searching for Marbo
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Verviedi wrote: He has four armies. All monchrome grey.
Grey Chaos, Grey Tau, Grey Nids, and Grey Orks.
I was waiting for you to say Grey Knights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 03:47:06
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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curran12 wrote:Accept that some people don't value painting as highly as you.
This for sure. If games against unpainted armies is that offensive to you then play someone else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 03:51:05
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Oh help-he's playing with his toys wrong! Seriously...if he doesn't want to paint, you can't force him to. They're his models-not yours. If you don't like his unpainted models, you can stop playing him. But don't dictate how he has his fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 04:08:46
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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insaniak wrote:
You don't.
If he's not interested in painting, that's entirely up to him. If playing against unpainted models bothers you, find someone else to play. It's not up to you to convince someone that they're doing their hobby wrong.
This.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 08:39:03
Subject: Re:My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Kidnap his relatives and return 1 person per army painted. Though, be careful with the army sequence cause you'll spend considerably less ammount of money on food for your hostages if you make him paint orks last.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 09:00:01
Subject: Re:My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Dakka Veteran
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Threaten to bring 5 Transcendent C'tan to your next game and say you will leave one at home for each army painted.
Or failing that, put a squig in his sock drawer. A squig is a great motivator trust me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 09:28:42
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Rismonite wrote:You should totally take some grots and make him color by number basecoat it
Then, after he's spent his time basecoating.. show him how awesome those gitz look with some wash on 'em
He'll want to paint them again.. and with you to play against a coupole times a week he'll want to paint just to show'em off to you.
Or just find someone who isn't TFG.
He's hardly TFG for not having painted armies is he. Some people don't care about painting and that's fine. You can't make someone paint their army, nor can you call them TFG for having different priorities in THEIR hobby. Either suck it up or find someone who has painted armies to play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 09:55:28
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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See my sig.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 10:02:43
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Stormin' Stompa
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You don't.
You accept the fact that different people find enjoyment in different aspects of the hobby.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 10:16:21
Subject: Re:My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Imperial Answer wrote:Threaten to bring 5 Transcendent C'tan to your next game and say you will leave one at home for each army painted.
Or failing that, put a squig in his sock drawer. A squig is a great motivator trust me.
Oh, I would. Too bad Transcendent C'tan are MAXIMUM GOUGING on the part of GWs
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 10:32:27
Subject: Re:My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Fireknife Shas'el
Lisbon, Portugal
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The Imperial Answer wrote:Threaten to bring 5 Transcendent C'tan to your next game and say you will leave one at home for each army painted.
Or failing that, put a squig in his sock drawer. A squig is a great motivator trust me.
Best answer right here! Personally I'd try the squig first
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 11:03:30
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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I wouldn't really blame someone for having unpainted models, its a daunting thing, and maybe he thinks he is really bad at painting and isn't even going to try, or maybe he thinks its already expensive as it is just buying models, and that buying all the hundreds of painting supplies as well would just be too much for his budget.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 11:25:45
Subject: Re:My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Raging Ravener
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"Models are expensive and I can't practice" and "Unless it's GD standard it looks crappy".
I think that even simple paintjobs look cool. Basecoat, drybrush, wash? Very nice. Basecoat and quickshade dip? Great. You can practise on terrain, or don't worry and practise on your models - you can easily strip the paint off the metal ones, or don't worry anyway, because a beginner's paintjob still looks better than unpainted plastic. (Also, if someone has afforded 4 2000+ point armies, it seems to me that buying one additional squad for painting practice should not be a problem.)
It seems that 10-20 years ago hardly anyone aimed at GD standard, and the armies looked nice anyway - they were colourful and had strong presence on the battlefield.
My usual opponent painted some miniatures when he was 12. They're messy, with little to no details, but with strong colours contrasting with black undercoat they often look better than more carefully painted models, especially at arm's length. We play with them to this day.
Verviedi, so now you can tell your opponent "at least some people on Dakka like simple paintjobs". It's not VERY likely to help, but then, you can still try with the squig.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 11:33:20
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Psychic Prisoner aboard a Black Ship
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curran12 wrote:Accept that some people don't value painting as highly as you.
As frustrating as it may be for you, some people simply don't enjoy that aspect of the hobby - they just want to roll dice. I personally like having painted armies but I won't get them done quickly myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 11:52:54
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Ulverus wrote: curran12 wrote:Accept that some people don't value painting as highly as you.
As frustrating as it may be for you, some people simply don't enjoy that aspect of the hobby - they just want to roll dice. I personally like having painted armies but I won't get them done quickly myself.
Or even if they do enjoy painting, maybe their hobby time is limited and they'd rather get games in than paint, which is imo fair enough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 12:21:02
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Our club had an escalation league which rewarded having painted and converted models each session with bonus points to spend on apocalypse cards for the campaign final.
We had a mix of people who were brand new (and literally played the first 250pt game with their only models) and people who had been playing for a while but had never really got into painting - at the end of the campaign we had mostly painted armies from pretty much everyone. It was great fun for the gamers and the painters and the converters alike.
See if your local area is running something like that, or if not, start one up
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 12:22:19
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Suggest meeting up and doing a "paint day" where you sit together, paint your miniatures and maybe watch a good TV series or listen to music at the same time to create a welcoming atmosphere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 12:24:54
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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curran12 wrote:Accept that some people don't value painting as highly as you.
Pretty much this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 12:31:41
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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ImAGeek wrote: Ulverus wrote: curran12 wrote:Accept that some people don't value painting as highly as you.
As frustrating as it may be for you, some people simply don't enjoy that aspect of the hobby - they just want to roll dice. I personally like having painted armies but I won't get them done quickly myself.
Or even if they do enjoy painting, maybe their hobby time is limited and they'd rather get games in than paint, which is imo fair enough.
Once upon a time my Space Wolf army was painted.
Then I got new models, and some got cannibalised and/or converted and/or broken and/or chipped.
Now I hardly have any models I'd say were "painted"
Honestly.... I mean to.
But... kid, wife, work, TV, computer, game time, modelling time, and FLASH !!!!! OMFG, cleaning Flash!!!!!
There just never seems to be enough time for painting. Sweet jesus, if only I had time for an actual game!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 12:48:37
Subject: My Only Opponent Plays Unpainted - Help!
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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Rismonite wrote:You should totally take some grots and make him color by number basecoat it
Then, after he's spent his time basecoating.. show him how awesome those gitz look with some wash on 'em
He'll want to paint them again.. and with you to play against a coupole times a week he'll want to paint just to show'em off to you.
Or just find someone who isn't TFG.
Wow I didn't think TFG would start being misused until WAAC fell out of flavour.
OP as said by many others, if he doesn't want to paint then well, deal with it. Trying to force people to do things they don't want to, especially when they have no motivation and don't really get anything out of the task from their POV, tends to not end well.
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