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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Remember that Heavy Gear computer game a few pages back, and how it was doing?

BattleTech just raised $1M for their computer game...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/battletech

They'll probably raise at least $2M by the time they close.

Yeah.

I had no idea... thanks for the heads up!

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Remember that Heavy Gear computer game a few pages back, and how it was doing?

BattleTech just raised $1M for their computer game...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/battletech

They'll probably raise at least $2M by the time they close.

Yeah.

Clearly, turn-based strategy games involving stompy robots hold no appeal at all.

Clearly .

And clearly, I'm in this one and not in the HGA one...

But does it have AAA stick it to the man/publisher esports freemium microtransactions? 'Cuz that is what the cool kids want according to the pair of HGA crowdfunding attempts. I wish they had followed the advice given on the forums and gone that route instead. While I've always preferred HG to Battletech both on the tabletop and PC back in the day, I fully admit Battletech was the bigger property so I don't think HGA would have had the same level of funding so quickly if they had designed a game that the community wants.. but I'm confident they would have reached their funding goal by the end of the campaign.

I fear that even if Heavy Gear had run an identical campaign, with the same studio, proposed game and all they would have got far, far less than Battletech has,

simply because there is a huge legacy of Battletech players/ex players both from the tabletop and the computer game world,

even at it's height Heavy Gear didn't have anything like the appeal

(not that I think they made anything like a decent job of their own campaign, but even if they had it wasn't going to set the world on fire)

That's what I said (but I'm not sure if you think you're disagreeing with me). Battletech has always been #1 but the HGA game would have been much better funded than it was if they hadn't chosen the format they did for the game.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I fear that even if Heavy Gear had run an identical campaign, with the same studio, proposed game and all they would have got far, far less than Battletech has,

simply because there is a huge legacy of Battletech players/ex players both from the tabletop and the computer game world,

even at it's height Heavy Gear didn't have anything like the appeal

(not that I think they made anything like a decent job of their own campaign, but even if they had it wasn't going to set the world on fire)

I'm sure, too!

I'm also sure that they would have needed a lot less money to fund that kind of game, though, which is the whole point.

Not really the place to be discussing Battletech, or the new turn-based game... Here's the place, although that said I found discussion in that thread around introducing the board game to people interesting in that it reflected my experience of dropping the game like a rock when I discovered other games that weren't half so boring, like Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader, which is saying something.

Ah, yes, of course, I forgot...

Also, Dave's blog detailing updates and changes: http://www.dp9.com/content/living-rule-book-update-inbound

Thanks for the link. I took a peek at the forums (tumbleweed rolls by) and it looks like they posted a more detailed change log as well.

http://dp9forum.com/index.php?s=cdcf1d96635457eef39f449cec924a86&showtopic=17146

The issue with molds seems... odd. I mean, that appears to be a major communications miss on both parties. Unless we aren't being told something, which is possible.

I'm not too concerned about a moved back date, it's Kickstarter. Delays are inherent. People often forget that kickstarter is not a store, it's a place where you give artists and designers money to support their projects. In return, they usually give you some copies of their art/project.

Also, that Battletech looks sweet. I'm very fond of HBS. Stompy Bot just makes me very upset anytime I see more of HGA leaked.

That is the same as saying Uber is not a taxi company, just a company that facilitates a taxi like experience between a driver and a customer through communication apps. Just a definition that tries to avoid liability for anything.

If walks like a pre-order, talks like a pre-order, then it's a preorder.

RJVF wrote:
If walks like a pre-order, talks like a pre-order, then it's a preorder.

This.

And funnily enough, more and more the law world seems to agree with that assertion.

And, even in those terrible days before Kickstarter and even before the Internet, sometimes pre-orders got delayed because of manufacturing mistakes.

 solkan wrote:
And, even in those terrible days before Kickstarter and even before the Internet, sometimes pre-orders got delayed because of manufacturing mistakes.

Indeed they did... and it inconvienenced only a fraction of the playerbase since only the hardest of the hardcore would pay weeks (not months or years) in advance for a single SKU at full price plus shipping. That isn't the same thing as now where you pay years in advance for a huge lots of deeply discounted minis. The responsiblity of the producer in making sure what they're advertising for sale and the protections for the consumer should INCREASE when you change the model like that, not decrease. In any case, I don't feel the HG ks is in trouble regardless at the moment but that will change if they don't get all cylinders correctly firing by next summer.

Any news on the Heavy Gear kickstarter front? We're fast approaching the one month mark since the last one and I'm curious to see if there has been progress on the designs and moulds.

They just posted an update
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/heavygearblitz/heavy-gear-blitz-war-for-terra-nova-starter-set/posts/1404827

"So you guys really wanted a Ghislain Barbe cover ? Well, tough luck..."

Yeah, I was a bit disappointed about that being a fan of his work when I got the update last night. I don't know if Brandon will admit it but I suspect he's bummed out by this too as a Ghislainian himself. :( That said, the new guy's stuff isn't bad (at least when you filter out the horrible HGA gear designs out).

The new cover's messy, indistinct, and makes the game look like a spin-off of HGA. Which I guess is not a hugely bad thing, since HGA (if it ever properly launches) will definitely have more coverage and players.

I hope the Barbe family is okay. :(

"We loved the Heavy Gear Assault computer game concept artwork done by Lorenz Hideyoshi Ruwwe for Stompybot Productions. "

Wow, someone out there liked the HGA concept art?

Wow.

Cell phone wallpapers.

Truly, we live in a golden age of Heavy Gear.

Hey, they have to do something while they plug away for toward a possible Q1 2016 delivery date, given that next month is NOT going to happen...

What? Not next month? *Head asplodes*

Chibi Xmas minis?

I certainly hope that backers will get a meaty update on the progress of each model before the end of the year. We haven't had any info on the actual minis since the delay annoucement back in September. Even if the news is bad, a breakdown of what is what sprue by sprue would be much appreciated.

Anything that isn't filler would be appreciated.

Ouch. 25 bucks apiece for the joke Grizzly.

They certainly think of themselves as if they were GW, don't they.

Isn't the secret of success to emulate the behaviors of those to whom you aspire?

Woohoo! My wish was granted with a mid-day KS update... with the sprues that I actually wanted to see as well! They're also hoping for a late 1st quarter ship date start (so March to April for shipping if all goes as planned?).

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/heavygearblitz/heavy-gear-blitz-war-for-terra-nova-starter-set/posts/1434793?ref=backer_project_update

Ooh, looks like Warboss beat me to it. Those are some good-looking sprues. Tight.