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The angular North stuff looks much better than the curvy South stuff. But that's possibly because I don't own any North to compare.

The angular Caprice stuff is fine, as expected.

The "inverted nipple" shoulder style still weirds me out, tbh.

As to the Caprice stuff, it looks good, but I don't really like the paintjob.

We haven't seen painted Southern models yet. Presumably they're the next (and last) to be shown.

While some things are more obvious (like the crash diet the Cobra went on), both polar factions had some noticeable design changes. Even though I liked the Caprice aesthetic and quad walker designs, I never studied them long enough to know what they changed in the switchover to plastic. CEF got a complete redesign for their tanks in plastic but they did the same in resin/metal several times as well (both scale and designs).

I think Caprice didn't change at all, not that it needed any changes whatsoever. If there were changes, they were very minimal.

The original CEF stuff looks pretty dated, although the F6-16 is still around. I like the original rectangle hovertanks, but it appears a certain other faction has taken them (like everything else good), leaving the CEF with the newer Star Destroyer-styled hovertanks.

A certain other faction called the PAK?

Those guys get *everything*.

You can still have HT-68 and HT-67s.

Pftt... that's nothing. Paxton stole the only new northern strider in 20 years (both in real life years and TN cycles!) straight out of the Northern book late playtesting stage when the Paxton book was in layout a few weeks before publication!

 JohnHwangDD wrote:


Those guys get *everything*.

Heh. You don't know the half of it.

 Albertorius wrote:
The "inverted nipple" shoulder style still weirds me out, tbh.

As to the Caprice stuff, it looks good, but I don't really like the paintjob.

The airbrushed to death look is fast, presumably, but not that great. I prefer Phil's work on the North. I hope he did (/does/will do) the South, too.

 Firebreak wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
The "inverted nipple" shoulder style still weirds me out, tbh.

As to the Caprice stuff, it looks good, but I don't really like the paintjob.

The airbrushed to death look is fast, presumably, but not that great. I prefer Phil's work on the North. I hope he did (/does/will do) the South, too.

According to Robert, he´s doing it.

 Albertorius wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

Spoiler:

Those guys get *everything*.

Heh. You don't know the half of it.

True. But I did catch the pattern. South has guys on horse-sized lizards? Cool. We'll give these guys bigger lizards, and then even bigger Gear-sized lizards! CEF has distinctive hovertanks and hoverAPCs? Sweet! Take them! Someone has a giant robot? Well, how about a much gianter robot with the most biggest guns ever?

Remember kids, everything you can do, NuCoal can do better, they can do robots better than you!

*sings badly and out of tune*

What robots?

 warboss wrote:
What robots?

Big ones! Isn't that the point of HG? Robot battles?

It's no accident that there are no infantry platoons in the KS.

(The Hussar is good, right? From what I can tell, it's HUGE with all the options, so it must be good.)

 Albertorius wrote:

 Firebreak wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
The "inverted nipple" shoulder style still weirds me out, tbh.

As to the Caprice stuff, it looks good, but I don't really like the paintjob.

The airbrushed to death look is fast, presumably, but not that great. I prefer Phil's work on the North. I hope he did (/does/will do) the South, too.

According to Robert, he´s doing it.

Then perhaps PAK and NuCoal will be painted by their, ahem, patrons.

It would only be just.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 warboss wrote:
What robots?

Big ones! Isn't that the point of HG? Robot battles?

It's no accident that there are no infantry platoons in the KS.

(The Hussar is good, right? From what I can tell, it's HUGE with all the options, so it must be good.)

Oh, I thought you were refering to actual robots as in AI controlled models like one off world faction uses (eden?)... whichever has the KIDU stuff... and not gearstriders. Eh, everyone has gundams now except for the offworlders that get an OGRE instead. I'm not a fan of gearstriders by any stretch but they're here to stay.

As a relative newbie to HG, most of that went right over my head. For me, all of the Gears categorize under "giant robots".

Heavy Gear is moreso a combined arms game rather than a giant robot game.

Nomeny wrote:
Heavy Gear is moreso a combined arms game rather than a giant robot game.

Well... not according with the current administration and their much vaunted (and repeated) "the game is called Heavy GEAR, not Heavy Tank" line.

Did they ever do blank card templates for stat cards, or has anyone made new ones for Blitz 2.0?

Nomeny wrote:
Heavy Gear is moreso a combined arms game rather than a giant robot game.

It's semantics but I disagree. I think it's more correct to say it is a giant robot game that supports the option of also playing combined arms. The main focus has always been (and IMO always should be) on gears.

The Gears are the sexy sci-fi part, but anyone trying to play Battletech with their Gears is in for a nasty surprise.

Nomeny wrote:
The Gears are the sexy sci-fi part, but anyone trying to play Battletech with their Gears is in for a nasty surprise.

Er, I'm kinda new to this whole side of mini-wargaming so...what 'nasty surprise' would that be?

That would be finding out that Gears aren't "kings of the battlefield."

Nomeny wrote:
That would be finding out that Gears aren't "kings of the battlefield."

They aren't the "kings of the battlefiel" in HG either... they're just the most versatile platform in the universe fluff in that they can do almost any job but that doesn't mean there aren't more specialized things that are even better suited for those jobs. They're the swiss army knife in a violent world that also has handguns and rocks. Plus.. like bow ties and Fez's, giant robots are cool.

Yes, people trying to use Battletech tactics in Heavy Gear blitz would find out that Gears aren't kings of the battlefield in Heavy Gear.

Your point about Gears being handy all-rounders is true, which is why the CEF invented Frames, and Flails.

Nomeny wrote:
Heavy Gear is moreso a combined arms game rather than a giant robot game.

Really? That's news to me, given that virtually all of the visuals are of giant robots, both the tabletop and the computer. Just because it includes things that aren't robots, doesn't make it a combined arms game.

It's like saying Car Wars is actually about motorcycles, and pedestrians and tractor trailers. And helicopters, aircraft, and tanks. Also hovercraft. And boats, if you're along the beach. Sure, you can use Car Wars for Tank battles. It'd be awful. But you could. Doesn't make it a Tank game.

And if HG is really a combined arms game, why weren't infantry in the KS? In a true combined arms game, infantry is mandatory.

 warboss wrote:

Nomeny wrote:
That would be finding out that Gears aren't "kings of the battlefield."

They aren't the "kings of the battlefiel" in HG either... they're just the most versatile platform in the universe fluff in that they can do almost any job but that doesn't mean there aren't more specialized things that are even better suited for those jobs. They're the swiss army knife in a violent world that also has handguns and rocks. Plus.. like bow ties and Fez's, giant robots are cool.

I really have to start paying more attention in here...soon?

I like the size/scale here, but I'm looking for something that lets you use 'robots' (Gears!), vehicles and infantry in a game.

Is...this the game?

(I do miss Space Marine/Titan Legion... )