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 Azreal13 wrote:
A superior dictionary, clearly.

oxforddictionaries.com wrote:vice2
Line breaks: vice
Pronunciation: /ˈvʌɪsi /
PREPOSITION

As a substitute for:
the letter was drafted by David Hunt, vice Bevin who was ill

I have to be honest, I read a great amount and it wasn't something I had ever come across before. But there you go, learn something new!

 insaniak wrote:
They're not going to stop and listen to what their customers have to say until they're forced to, because the guy running the show is still firmly convinced that they're doing everything right.

This! is pretty much it.
What will make matters worse is if he can find many different areas to blame he can still say his approach is "right" even if results were not as intended.
All we can do is wait for the shareholder rebellion (which will not happen) or the Kirby golden parachute exit plan when he cannot wring any more dividends out of GW by reducing overhead costs.
Yes, no GW bashing, just one "vocal minority" in charge of the company in need of ejection.

Only just over 200 signatures needed to hit 10K.

Don't know why that feels important, but it would appear to be a hell of a milestone.

152 to go...
It's time to repost anything you posted before, as the fence-sitters need a nudge.
10k is the number the UK government set as a talking point in there petition site. It seems as though that's good enough for those who run a country, so GW should think it important enough, too.

As for them paying attention at all, it's the shareholders that need a kick. Does anyone have anything to do with the big investors?

146 to go now.

 Pacific wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
A superior dictionary, clearly.

oxforddictionaries.com wrote:vice2
Line breaks: vice
Pronunciation: /ˈvʌɪsi /
PREPOSITION

As a substitute for:
the letter was drafted by David Hunt, vice Bevin who was ill

I have to be honest, I read a great amount and it wasn't something I had ever come across before. But there you go, learn something new!

It's them damned Romans...

Though to be fair, it is something you knew - and just didn't realize it. Same reason we have things like Vice Presidents. They aren't addicted to hookers and blow (well - they might be, family traditions and all...) - they are substitutes for the real deal.

Good lord this thing has picked up steam! Only 139 signatures to go!

Down to 42 now!

 Azreal13 wrote:
Down to 42 now!

31. It's definitely happening.

 Skinnereal wrote:

10k is the number the UK government set as a talking point in there petition site. It seems as though that's good enough for those who run a country, so GW should think it important enough, too.

You'd think that, but...



GW won't respond. GW don't talk to the media. The Pope gives interviews to the BBC. GW don't. Let that one sink in.

Oh and 20 to go!

It will be ultimately down to the guy who created it, but it isn't necessarily GW it needs to be aimed at.

10000 people agreeing in anything is a pretty big deal, let alone when it is concerned with such a relatively small group like wargamers.

Must...resist...to.be.10000th....

10K hit!

 Azreal13 wrote:
10K hit!

What happens now?

Now we are 10k all of us 10k people should send an email with a link to the petition and flood their inboxes. That way we know they havent not seen it.

 Swastakowey wrote:
Now we are 10k all of us 10k people should send an email with a link to the petition and flood their inboxes. That way we know they havent not seen it.

too bad they dont check it

 hiveof_chimera wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
Now we are 10k all of us 10k people should send an email with a link to the petition and flood their inboxes. That way we know they havent not seen it.

too bad they dont check it

If we send even 2000 emails to all available GW email addresses there is no way they wont notice... I think

Do they even have e-mail? The interwebz is a scary place after all.

Yep, I emailed them once. Got the same reply everyone else got haha. But yes they definitely look at emails.

I think, ultimately, it is down to the OP what happens next, he says he did not expect 10k sigs on the petition himself, so I suspect he is as surprised as the rest of us.

Personally, I agree with those who feel directly approaching GW is not likely to achieve anything, but subscribe to the idea that getting it out to the mainstream econmomics media or to the relevant persons at the larger investors would apply greater pressure.

Kind of like telling GW's parents on it.

 Azreal13 wrote:
I think, ultimately, it is down to the OP what happens next, he says he did not expect 10k sigs on the petition himself, so I suspect he is as surprised as the rest of us.

Personally, I agree with those who feel directly approaching GW is not likely to achieve anything, but subscribe to the idea that getting it out to the mainstream econmomics media or to the relevant persons at the larger investors would apply greater pressure.

Kind of like telling GW's parents on it.

I approve this message.

Question is, Will games workshops "parents" do anything about it? I'm a man of action, when is op sending it off?
BTW, where do you guys email GW, is it worth us all emailing it

 hiveof_chimera wrote:
Question is, Will games workshops "parents" do anything about it? I'm a man of action, when is op sending it off?
BTW, where do you guys email GW, is it worth us all emailing it

If someone finds an e-mail that's worthwhile, please post it. All I can ever find is customer support.

 MWHistorian wrote:

 hiveof_chimera wrote:
Question is, Will games workshops "parents" do anything about it? I'm a man of action, when is op sending it off?
BTW, where do you guys email GW, is it worth us all emailing it

If someone finds an e-mail that's worthwhile, please post it. All I can ever find is customer support.

isnt this relevant to customer support

Think I might take one for the team and repost to Warseer since the previous thread disappeared without a trace.

Posted it. Let's see if it stays around or if I get banned for not towing the party line.

Signed it, not that i believe that it will have any effect though. This petition is surely a hate campaign instigated by the non-existing competition!

 MWHistorian wrote:

 hiveof_chimera wrote:
Question is, Will games workshops "parents" do anything about it? I'm a man of action, when is op sending it off?
BTW, where do you guys email GW, is it worth us all emailing it

If someone finds an e-mail that's worthwhile, please post it. All I can ever find is customer support.

Well...

I can say that GW uses a pretty standard corporate format for email addresses. FirstName.LastName@gwplc.com This applies across the board (top to bottom...very top...).

You can see examples of this naming format on their various trade account rep pages...like this one here:

http://sambriblog.wordpress.com/territory-page/become-an-independent-stockist/terms-and-conditions/contacts-uk/

Games Workshop does respond to the e-mail that stockholders use to mail their concerns to. Not being a stockholder I don't remember this e-mail address, but we had someone here on Dakka post a reply they got when they sent a letter to it.

All you stockholders should write to this address and post a link to this petition.

-S'Cipio

That would be this one:

investorrelations@gwplc.com


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Granted, you might also consider the following:

investorrelations@investec.com (they hold 9.7%)

ruffer@ruffer.co.uk (they hold 7.8%)

phoenix@pamp.co.uk (they hold 5.9%)

fidinvlux@fil.com (they hold 5.5%)

customer.response@landg.com (they hold 5.3%)

investorservices@schroders.com (they hold 5.3%)

enquiries@aberforth.co.uk (they hold 5.1%)

investorsupport@artemisfunds.com (they hold 5.1%)

Thanks for the support guys. I didn't think 10k possible when I first wrote it.

When I created the petition I had to provide an email POC for who I am petitioning. I used the ivestor relations one. From what I can understand about change.org is that each time it is signed it is sending the impact statement summary blurb to investorrelations@gwplc.com (so they are probably auto deleting by now). I later also added some corporate emails by guessing firstname.lastname@gwplc.com. Seemed to work for several of them.

As for "What now" well I for one am going to print and mail the petition and all the signatures to the CEO and COO.


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 Sean_OBrien wrote:
That would be this one:

investorrelations@gwplc.com


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Granted, you might also consider the following:

investorrelations@investec.com (they hold 9.7%)

ruffer@ruffer.co.uk (they hold 7.8%)

phoenix@pamp.co.uk (they hold 5.9%)

fidinvlux@fil.com (they hold 5.5%)

customer.response@landg.com (they hold 5.3%)

investorservices@schroders.com (they hold 5.3%)

enquiries@aberforth.co.uk (they hold 5.1%)

investorsupport@artemisfunds.com (they hold 5.1%)

I started to include them on the petition, but realized those are just investor firms and not the investors themselves. They all have a bunch of business men and venture capitalists and whatnot just pooling money and investing in anything and everything that seems profitable. Just seemed like they would have no real effect, at least to me. I could be wrong though.