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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/11 12:32:42
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Foxy Wildborne
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Got my DBX box today. Lovely stuff. The plastic crates caught my eye especially, they are a huge leap forward compared to the DZ accessory sprue and resin item crates. I hope we can get plastic item crates like these in DZ2.
Any idea why there was a second sheet of cardboard chits?
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/11 13:01:45
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Dakka Veteran
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The one in the box was extremely well-cut, on slightly thinner cardboard - the tokens almost fall out on their own. The one outside the box was on thicker cardboard, with the standard two little tear points in the cutting.
It could just be that they changed their production method for the final retail product after the initial box assembly (which already didn't have all the models/rulebook in it), and packed in the updated sheets externally because it was easier than opening up the boxes to replace them. They actually changed materials in Dreadball on newer printings - the new tokens and cards are substantially nicer.
Do people have a list of what should be in the box? I have:
1 Bag Sponsors & Free Agents (11 models)
2 Bags Mixed Asterians & Convicts (20 models)
2 Bags Scenery
2 Token Sheets
2 Sheets of Transfers
1 Rulebook
1 Bag of dice
1 Set of cards (small)
1 Rubberised play mat
2 Sets of coloured bases (1 blue, 1 yellow)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/11 14:28:20
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Foxy Wildborne
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My box was the same.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/11 14:38:11
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Indescriminate Explicator
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I got that as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/11 19:26:48
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
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There should be Dirty Tricks cards and normal cards, shouldn't there?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/11 19:30:51
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Indescriminate Explicator
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One half of the cards are Special Moves, the other have Sabotage... I haven't read the rules so am done the wiser...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/11 20:16:48
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
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Apparently the second pack of free agents had to be pulled from wave 1 due to weight restrictions and it should ship with wave 2 now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 16:04:05
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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I got mine the other day. Hate the half sized cards, honest to gods hate them. Is it just so they fit on the pitch? Money saving? Either way, to hell with their stupid half sized cards. If they release full sized real cards I will snap them up but meantime I suppose I'm reduced to squinting and asking people to read them for me. Rubbish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 16:36:14
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Small preview of the Deadzone hard plastics here:
http://www.talkwargaming.com/2014/12/product-preview-hard-plastic-enforcer.html
The Peacekeeper looks a bit soft in terms of detail to me, especially the lower half. May just be the photo though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 16:43:32
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Why are they not releasing a goddamn kickstarter update with pictures of the bits and assembled miniatures? For feth's sake, Mantic.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 16:48:39
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Because they've already done one with pictures of the sprues?
Because if they did then you'd be complaining that they're too busy sending out updates rather than sending out minis?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 16:53:52
Subject: Re:The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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The image is restic enforcer, plastic peacekeeper, restic peacekeeper captain:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 16:54:44
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Daedleh wrote:Because they've already done one with pictures of the sprues?
Because if they did then you'd be complaining that they're too busy sending out updates rather than sending out minis?
When have I ever said that? (the opposite: I think there should be updates constantly... like Mierce's kickstarters. Once a week, all the info from the previous week. Even if it's just a wip sculpt. Best Kickstarters ever run)
They've got the minis, they're giving them out to people. How hard is it to take some pics of assembled figs?
I should have been more specific with the sprues: we have only seen a shot of the badly cast Forge Guard sprue. Surely, with them available for order on the website, they have gotten them in the building, and can show us pics of the sprues and assembled Forge Guard.
I've been waiting to finish my Warpath Forge Fathers army for months now :/ (gray-white and orange color scheme)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/12/12 17:06:10
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 17:01:12
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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I am with Judge on this, if you have a product in hand you should be chomping at the bit to show it off.
Yes they are busy with the Open Day and packing Dreadball X and posting Christmas orders but it seriously should not take more than 30 minutes of one persons time to get some decent pictures up of constructed minis.
It just makes people suspicious that there are issues with the sprues when there probably are none.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 17:07:54
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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edited to follow rule #1 I also agree with Doug.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 17:16:14
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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I mean, obviously I'm glad that they exist, and they gave some to some random people, who took a picture for it on their random blog, so that I can see one assembled Peacekeeper, and it looks good. And that's really nice and all. But I would like a big ol fat KS update saying "check out how awesome these dudes are! here's a bunch of pics showing 1237 different ways to assemble them with all these awesome bits! oh and here's some forge guard too bee tee dubs"
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 17:21:35
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
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judgedoug wrote:I mean, obviously I'm glad that they exist, and they gave some to some random people, who took a picture for it on their random blog, so that I can see one assembled Peacekeeper, and it looks good. And that's really nice and all. But I would like a big ol fat KS update saying "check out how awesome these dudes are! here's a bunch of pics showing 1237 different ways to assemble them with all these awesome bits! oh and here's some forge guard too bee tee dubs"
And you wonder why I have such an aversion for all things Mantic now when I used to be a pretty big fan.
Edit:
They really are trying to just shoot themselves in the foot, continuously and with fantastic aim apparently.
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 17:43:51
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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agnosto wrote: judgedoug wrote:I mean, obviously I'm glad that they exist, and they gave some to some random people, who took a picture for it on their random blog, so that I can see one assembled Peacekeeper, and it looks good. And that's really nice and all. But I would like a big ol fat KS update saying "check out how awesome these dudes are! here's a bunch of pics showing 1237 different ways to assemble them with all these awesome bits! oh and here's some forge guard too bee tee dubs"
And you wonder why I have such an aversion for all things Mantic now when I used to be a pretty big fan.
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They really are trying to just shoot themselves in the foot, continuously and with fantastic aim apparently.
At what point did someone in Mantic say, "I know. Let's give some Peacekeepers to a random blog and post a link on our FB page so perhaps 100 people will see it... INSTEAD of sending pictures out in a Kickstarter update so everyone will see them and then go to the various online forums and repost the update and generate massive word of mouth about how cool they look! Definitely the former."
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 18:37:22
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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So, sorry to interrupt this uhh... I dunno what to call it, but anyway yeah soz and stuff...
DB rulebook for season 4 is now available to backers. There are concepts and models for fans... Were those uhh funded by the campaign? Were they something we could add on? Did they come in any pledge levels? They look kind of awesome and I want some.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 18:41:24
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
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Fans were add ons in the campaign.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 18:42:24
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Indescriminate Explicator
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Are you talking about Schnorkel? He is so cute.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 18:47:28
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Huh, probably skipped them. Well the shipping is in waves maybe they'll open another survey down the road. The heavyset guy with the beer can is priceless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 18:54:04
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Indescriminate Explicator
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Actually looked at the rulebook and see what you are talking about now. I hope I have added them as well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 18:55:43
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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10 bucks for 3 fans, or 10 for 3 cheerleaders. I did not add them, and it seems now that it was a foolish choice not to. They look pretty sweet. So do the cheerleaders. Maybe if there's a second wave pledge manager like for deadzone... Hopefully they make it to retail too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 19:40:50
Subject: Re:The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Those fans were metal, right?
What would have been really cool would be some multipart alien civvies.
According to that latest DBX update, all the base games have been posted.
Will we get shipping notifications (for those that already received their games)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 19:47:15
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Metal yes. All games have been posted? Well that's exciting Notifications would be good, I hate leaving stuff on my doorstep, too conspicuous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 20:40:19
Subject: Re:The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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Thraxas Of Turai wrote:The image is restic enforcer, plastic peacekeeper, restic peacekeeper captain:
I went from being super enthusasitic about these coming to retail to contemplating a 6mm historical project with the money. It all just looks really soft. Especially the weapons and heads. The combat shields look excellent though, with the indents and details looking less rounded in. I love the torsos, legs and upper arms though. Some of the lower arms on some of them are super thin and small looking.
And now that I've watched the video all the way through, there is no way I'll be getting these. They intentionally smoothed over detail on the inside of some of the weapons where it'll be close to the torsos. This severely limits conversion potential:
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 20:52:38
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Hmm. That is a bit of a shame. It will likely benefit the 'default poses' by allowing them to be tighter and whatnot, but it does limit conversion potential. I guess I'm glad I only ordered a couple sets which won't really need converting for originality.
For the 10 I have coming, I think I'll be quite pleased. But I guess if I want to chop some models up for crazy/dynamic poses, I'm best off sticking with space marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 21:11:31
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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That is SUPER dissapointing. I wanted to buy some, but I'm not going to now. Everyone's enforcers will look EXACTLY the same.
I've never said it before... but Alpharius's "almost" comes to mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 21:20:28
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
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Really glad I just have one set coming, monopose figures are not inspiring at all. "Look, I have 30 guys that all look exactly the same, yay!"
No thanks.
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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