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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/20 06:21:59
Subject: Re:The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Stoic Grail Knight
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judgedoug wrote:Snagged a couple shots from the facebook group.
These look fantastic. I am glad I have like, uhh, lots and lots coming. (edit: 8 sprues)
Those do look good! Any idea if they are as tall as their restic counterparts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/20 11:08:11
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Foxy Wildborne
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So who wants to join me in campaigning for plastic item crates in DZ2?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/20 14:22:16
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Yes! I could do with some more. The resin crates from AW were a good idea but the DBX crates were better executed IMO. Whether you lightly set the lids on or rotate them till they sit snug, they're an improvement over the resin crates where some combinations just didn't fit. Also liable to come cheaper
I still want a nice scifi weapon/accessory sprue, but that could also wait for warpath.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/20 21:09:09
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Got my Forge guard today, was only expecting one but I got x3 sets - WIN
I'll get some pics up tomorrow.
It looks like Everything but the arms only works with a specific part e.g a's legs don't fit on b's torso.
It does make me wonder why they went modular with the legs if there's only a set position they work in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/20 21:12:55
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Huh. Cool sounds like the boxen of *everything* must be shipping.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/20 23:20:30
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
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This isn't entirely sci fi, but it does talk about what came in my Mantic Crazy boxes today.
A typical foldover box arrived.
However, what really did surprise me was Mantic had combined both the Sci and General boxes together into the one megabox. So, generally speaking, I'm not sure what would be in each box normally.
First off, I have some of the awesome new Deadzone ruined sprues, to go along with my already huge collection of terrain. Surprisingly, I received not one, not two but *4* of the Deadzone accessory sprues. Extra connectors don't go amiss too.
Next , I unpacked 10 Basilean Men-at-Arms. While, I do know they aren't exactly the greatest models in the world, I do find it quite entertaining that, between these and previous years crazy boxes I'm pretty sure I've got at least a starter armies worth of models now.
I'm guessing these guys would be found in the sci fi crazy box.
There's the metal Helfather special character. (My second)
Marauder Kommando Captain. - My second
Enforcer Peacekeeper Captain. - My um... 5th one
A bag of 2 Plague infantry, 1 Plague Machine Gunner. - Could always do with more infantry
A bag of 2 Mawbeasts - Doggies! With chainsaw mouths.
1 Marauder Trooper, 1 Goblin Sniper
1 Yindij Trooper, 1 Sorak Trooper
There were some Dreadball models in there as well.
A Z'zor Keeper - I've had loads of guards, so this is theoretically handy.
The Praetorian star player - I can use this guy in my Asterian deadzone force
Dozer, the Dreadball giant - I seem to keep on amassing these, I think she's my 5th
Next, I have some Forge Fathers.
Some Stormrage Veterans - I had some more of these last year, so probably my 3rd squad of these guys.
Jotunn Hailstorm Cannon - I have the urban combat variant for Deadzone, so this is pretty awesome.
Some Kings of War models now, some Basileans and Undead. It's odd I can't find either of the undead in the mantic store though.
A big bag of Basilean Sisters on panthers/cathorses. - I had a set of these from last year.
An Undead dog and its handler.
An undead standard bearer on horseback.
Mantic seems to have thrown in a few Mars Attacks minis too, which is pretty good, as it's a mantic game I haven't bought into and I was wanting to see them in the flesh. - I already know that dropping them in some hot water will help straighten them out though. Sad thing is, the martians have no helmets, they weren't included in the box..
Finally, there were the various additional bits and pieces, some posters, a couple of leaflets and a copy of the Kings of War rules. - Funnily enough, with my 2 bags of Panther riders and 30 basilean soldiers I own over the last few Crazy boxes, plus some Mantic elf models I've picked up over the years, I might have enough for a viable army to try out a game or two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/20 23:37:42
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Thats pretty neat. That was one each of the two crazy box variants? Seems like a decent haul, thanks for sharing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/20 23:55:32
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
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It's a decent haul, yeah. I'm not entirely sure if it's a decent £50 haul though to be honest. Especially since there was so much duplication from last years sets.
I really don't think I need *that many* Stormrage veterans. Sadly, most of the Deadzone models weren't ones where it's good to have duplicates for either.
On the other hand, I could field a full peacekeeper squad now, just of the captains I own :p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 00:04:34
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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'Surprise Boxes' never made sense to me. I would rather buy what I want/need than spend money on Stuff! I may or may not ever find a use for (no matter how good a deal the Stuff! may be.
I know many folks seem to love them, and Mantic seems to do well with them, they are just not my thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 00:28:11
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Those Undead were KS exclusives (dog & handler, mounted banner bearer).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 06:03:57
Subject: Re:The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Dreadball showed up today. Yay!
Too bad the mail didn't come until after dinner, so we were stuck playing Arcadia Quest rather than DBX. Not that huge of a loss.
Figures look decent.
Those translucent bases though? Doesn't seem like any of the figures actually fit in them! The space in the base is either too large, or the base of the figures are too small.
Will have to try out some regular Mantic bases to see how they compare.
This seem like it could be problematic for some of the more oddly proportioned figures like the spider free agent and the armored 2 legged pig alien.
Am I the only one who has this issue, or is this pretty common across the board. Everything else seems pretty nice. Will start digesting the rulebook tomorrow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 06:36:40
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Oberstleutnant
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Thanks for the unboxing Compel! I ordered one of each two, looking forward to them. Really glad there's more ruined terrain in it, could use some more of that. They look really good. Interested to see if the poster is worth putting up too. Like you I'm in the same boat with christmas boxes giving me enoguh to build small armies of various things now I think hehehe. The lack of martian helmets is annoying. If that's the case for me, I might ask that they include a couple in another of the many shipments from kickstarters still to be sent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 06:44:32
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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JoeRugby wrote:Got my Forge guard today, was only expecting one but I got x3 sets - WIN
I'll get some pics up tomorrow.
It looks like Everything but the arms only works with a specific part e.g a's legs don't fit on b's torso.
It does make me wonder why they went modular with the legs if there's only a set position they work in.
So, they already have the Forge Guard in house, and dont botter to take pictures? Im trying, but Mantic is not behaving the way i would expect.
The news about the legs are not good ones for me... Between their size and lack of poseability i think Mantic fooled me again on this one.
I should have spent less money on Forge Fathers, and more on Peacekeepers. But hey, maybe they surprise me hu?
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If my post show some BAD spelling issues, please forgive-me, english is not my natural language, and i never received formal education on it...
My take on Demiurgs (enjoy the reading):
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537654.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 06:51:01
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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The Dwarf Wolf wrote:So, they already have the Forge Guard in house, and dont botter to take pictures? Im trying, but Mantic is not behaving the way i would expect.
Based on what? How do you manage to be surprised by Mantic doing the same thing they usually do?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 07:55:00
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Screaming Shining Spear
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My DBX showed up today, which was a surprise because it's a Sunday, delivering on Sundays during Xmas is a new thing here.
I gor a combined regular + scifi crazy box as well, and I ended up with:
10 Panther Lancers
3 sprues of 5 Goblin Spitters
1 Marauder Grunt command sprue
1 Marauder Raptor
2 bags of Marauder Commando + Sniper
1 bag of 2 Mawbeast Bombers
1 Plague Stage 1A
1 bag of 2x Plague 3A and a Plague 3A w/ HMG
1 Hellfather
1 Chovar Psychic
The same set of terrain as above
1 Z'zor Keeper
1 Dozer
1 Praetorian
1 Refbot
1 bag of the 3 dead bodies from Mars Attacks
The same two posters as above
I think that was all, I took everything out of the box and put the in their respective queues
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 09:00:56
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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CptJake wrote:'Surprise Boxes' never made sense to me. I would rather buy what I want/need than spend money on Stuff! I may or may not ever find a use for (no matter how good a deal the Stuff! may be.
I know many folks seem to love them, and Mantic seems to do well with them, they are just not my thing.
I've ordered them once before and was happy with what I got but wouldn't order them again. If you are unsure of what you want and want some samples want conversion parts or just a mix of models to paint then they are great. But if you want specific gaming stuff then you are better off just getting what you want or need.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 09:58:44
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Dakka Veteran
London
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NTRabbit wrote:My DBX showed up today, which was a surprise because it's a Sunday, delivering on Sundays during Xmas is a new thing here.
I gor a combined regular + scifi crazy box as well, and I ended up with:
10 Panther Lancers
3 sprues of 5 Goblin Spitters
1 Marauder Grunt command sprue
1 Marauder Raptor
2 bags of Marauder Commando + Sniper
1 bag of 2 Mawbeast Bombers
1 Plague Stage 1A
1 bag of 2x Plague 3A and a Plague 3A w/ HMG
1 Hellfather
1 Chovar Psychic
The same set of terrain as above
1 Z'zor Keeper
1 Dozer
1 Praetorian
1 Refbot
1 bag of the 3 dead bodies from Mars Attacks
The same two posters as above
I think that was all, I took everything out of the box and put the in their respective queues
Not that randomised then, because I ordered the same combo and got exactly the same! I think 2 sprues of spitters and 2 refbots though. Luckily the MA dead bodies don't need helmets, and can always use more of them.
I ordered some small square bases, and handy tip: Mantic bases aren't bevelled, so you can glue two of the square bases together to get a pretty substantial cavalry base. Certainly a lot nicer than the thin plastic card Mantic normally supplies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 12:23:04
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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AlexHolker wrote: The Dwarf Wolf wrote:So, they already have the Forge Guard in house, and dont botter to take pictures? Im trying, but Mantic is not behaving the way i would expect.
Based on what? How do you manage to be surprised by Mantic doing the same thing they usually do?
Im a slow learner
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If my post show some BAD spelling issues, please forgive-me, english is not my natural language, and i never received formal education on it...
My take on Demiurgs (enjoy the reading):
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537654.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 13:27:25
Subject: Re:The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Forge guard
Sprues
Don't know if you can make it out but the legs, torsos and a few other bits are marked a-e, as I mentioned before legs a will only "cleanly" fit torso a, and also shoulder pads a will only fit torso a cleanly as well.
Here's a pic of where the legs connect to the torso's so you can see what your dealing with.
There is some movement in the positioning of the legs but I'm talking about slight changes in the angle of the legs and even then your looking at a gap you'll need to fill.
The arms fit into a hole created when you add the shoulder pad piece as below.
So there is more arm movement options but again not a lot.
I've put 2 forge guard together so far and their fun minis, and a squad will look nice in my collection but given the limited ability to repose them (without a fair bit of work) I'll definitely be putting at least one squad on eBay.
As I said earlier, I still don't see why they didn't have the legs pre attached to the torsos given theres not only one set of legs that fit correctly surly non preattached accessories would have been a better use of the space.
Overall I'm a bit disappointed by the undelivered promise of full customisability which Ive come to expect from multipart HIPS infantry kits but I still like the models a lot.
And finally the important bit ....scale shots
Deadzone scale shot
Enforcer, forge guard, human reb, forge guard, Brokkr, plague G3
Other ranges scale shot
GW ork, Mars attacks marine, forge guard, GW guardsman aka Bob, forge guard, Mars attacks Martian, infinity pano fusilier, GW space marine true scaled by yours truly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 13:37:15
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
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They look good to me!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 14:13:17
Subject: Re:The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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They look ok, but man, those hammer handles have always bothered me for being way too thin, but maybe it's just subjective. Still looking forward to some plastic Squats in exo-armor for some games of 40k second edition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 15:48:32
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Oh man, oh man, they look great. A little sad about the lack of leg posability without greenstuff (one of the reasons I dislike GW kits from the past 10 years), but I literally cannot WAIT to get my Warpath Forge Fathers army finished. Cmon Mantic please get me my Forge Guard and other crap asap!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Whoa whoa whoa what's up with the Wargames Factory style stackable sprues for the Forge Guard? Just noticed that.
(I mean, it's a good idea and everyone should use it)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 16:20:34
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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I'll reserve final judgement till I have mine in hand but... I'm liking the look of the forgeguard. They'll fit right in with my 2-pose steel warriors
And they're fuggin massive too, definitely feel like terminator sized dwarfs.
@Joe that tallscale marine is awesome, I wish I could get myself to do that but it's just too much cutting or buying running legs and so on. Looks amazing though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 19:27:24
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Indescriminate Explicator
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I do hope my sprues will arrive before the postie takes his holiday break.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 20:25:00
Subject: Re:The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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So am I the only one who's Dreadball figures don't fit snug in those clear bases?
Seems strange.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 20:43:37
Subject: Re:The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Fixture of Dakka
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They've never fit properly for me either. They were originally designed to clip in but they didn't take account of restic shrinkage on the integrated bases the only choice left is to permanently glue them or use something temporary to hold them like blu- tac which is what I do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 20:52:36
Subject: Re:The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Indescriminate Explicator
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No, it is more likely no-one replied to your post
Dave C has got it right. You either have to glue (and for the love of Odin, fill the gaps) or use something sticky to temporary keep them in place during a match.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/21 21:17:45
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Blue Tack seems like the smart choice here, though the crazy could go with magnets (and get to drill through unfriendly materials with barely enough room for the magnets in each side  ).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/22 03:16:57
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Screaming Shining Spear
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You don't need to drill in magnets, I'm planning to get a sheet of the stuff they make fridge magnets out of, and a sheet of flexible steel, and then cutting circles and gluing them to the bases and mini circles.
Back2base-ix sells the steel as part of a rank and file magnetic basing system, I'm going to see if they'll just sell the sheets or even cut them for me. The magnet sheets are at craft stores.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/22 03:49:33
Subject: The NEW Mantic games - Sci-fi N&R: Painted Peacekeepers, New Dreadball & Deadzone 2.0 Previews pg.11
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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If you can get them to cut you rounds, then you may be in business. I had the idea to get some sheet metal and cut it into disks for another thought process... well lets just say I didn't have the right tools and the material is gathering dust (maybe rust too =/) somewhere well away from my current projects.
I'll probably be cutting mine off their integrated bases and slapping them on clear acrylics to use for something else anyway
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