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**modiphius**

Knight wrote:
I did ask for a rough sketch. One of my characters is a PanO intelligence agent working undercover as freelance news reporter.

I hope the background will shed more light on various corporations that play vital role in Infinity, when I was imagining a story it was rather difficult to portray certain characters without going a step further and designing corporations that used said characters. It would be really nifty, if you could also choose affiliation to a corporation from the start.

You'll be able to roll a complete random character up, steer their development a bit, or just points buy exactly what you want. Want Pan O - sure, wanna grow up Yu-Jing of course. Wake up as part of Aleph, yep.

**Alpharius**

I want to be a Jotum operator...

OK, not really.

Actually...

**Space Ranger**

I’ve got some questions!

Alph already asked this :( Will the alien Combined or Tohaa be available as PC or NPC’s? (Personally, I can’t see them as PC unless the whole group is playing them.)

Will O-12 and its agents be shown? (This would be big! To have a faction that’s not in the main game.)

Do characters start with basic classes and their skill make them what they are? For example Soldier-Fusilier, Soldier-Kamau, Tech-Engineer, Tech-Hacker. (The thing I liked about GURPs was that the skills you put experience into where what made you what you were.)

**-Loki-**

I think Tohaa would be fine as mixing into a human group. The triad would try to do that for 'on the ground' manipulation.

**Guildsman**

-Loki- wrote:
I think Tohaa would be fine as mixing into a human group. The triad would try to do that for 'on the ground' manipulation.

That could be a really cool element. A Tohaa "liaison" who is totally there to help the group, with a hidden agenda that runs parallel or even counter to the rest of the team. Would be fun to play, anyway.

I'd like to run a Nomad. There's a lot of room to explore a character. Maybe a Prowler. A member of the Observance would also be really interesting to rp.

**Zond**

I hope it's mostly background and minimal crunch, and that Modiphius copy Achtung Cthulhu and we get the setting for multiple rulesets, specifically Fate. I doubt that will happen however.

**bantha_beast**

Guildsman wrote:

That could be a really cool element. A Tohaa "liaison" who is totally there to help the group, with a hidden agenda that runs parallel or even counter to the rest of the team. Would be fun to play, anyway.

You could probably do that with most of the other factions as well. Pretty much any of the human factions could have hidden agendas if thats how you wanted to play them. It will be interesting to see how they deal with existing faction rivalries. Would anyone in a group with mixed faction backgrounds actually trust each other? Or am i just being paranoid!?

**Ronin_eX**

Zond wrote:
I hope it's mostly background and minimal crunch, and that Modiphius copy Achtung Cthulhu and we get the setting for multiple rulesets, specifically Fate. I doubt that will happen however.

Well, they've already announced it will be using the same system that Mutant Chronicles uses, so yeah, not a huge chance of it being Fate-based out of the gate.

But maybe we'll see conversion guides if the KS goes well (Mutant Chronicles got a Savage Worlds book during the KS after all).

But the initial system is already decided and should work pretty well for folks looking for something of medium crunch with more traditional leanings. And it's not like a Fate conversion would be hard once they give us the expanded background info. Probably just do some quick conversions using Nova Praxis if that's your bag. Either way, something to suggest with regards to the eventual Kickstarter if you want to see system conversion sourcebooks.

**Zond**

I doubt we'll see any conversion materials, and yeah, it's not like it's hard to port to Fate. I'm just not thrilled that Modiphius are running it. Whilst the books they produce certainly contain a lot of quality, there's a tendency for their kickstarters to try and create as many supplement books as possible. Or at least it appears that way when you see what the required pledge level for all the books in print is.

**modiphius**

Space Ranger wrote: Alph already asked this :( Will the alien Combined or Tohaa be available as PC or NPC’s? (Personally, I can’t see them as PC unless the whole group is playing them.)

Will O-12 and its agents be shown? (This would be big! To have a faction that’s not in the main game.)

Do characters start with basic classes and their skill make them what they are? For example Soldier-Fusilier, Soldier-Kamau, Tech-Engineer, Tech-Hacker. (The thing I liked about GURPs was that the skills you put experience into where what made you what you were.)

I think we'll see Tohaa as PC's but the Combined Army are more likely NPC's it's something we're still discussing with CB though. Yes O-12 and it's agents will be around of course and some more surprises...

Zond wrote:I hope it's mostly background and minimal crunch, and that Modiphius copy Achtung Cthulhu and we get the setting for multiple rulesets, specifically Fate. I doubt that will happen however.

We're going to stick with 2d20 on this one unless when we do the survey there's a massive demand for another system. It's really a lot of work to support several systems so we want to put all our effort in to more content than more variations.

Zond wrote:I doubt we'll see any conversion materials, and yeah, it's not like it's hard to port to Fate. I'm just not thrilled that Modiphius are running it. Whilst the books they produce certainly contain a lot of quality, there's a tendency for their kickstarters to try and create as many supplement books as possible. Or at least it appears that way when you see what the required pledge level for all the books in print is.

Are you saying we give you too much :-D
Remember everyone at the basic pledge got over 2000 pages of PDFs - 11-17 books in both Kickstarters for free. All of them are coming out slowly in retail which means the games systems we've launched on Kickstarter are some of the best supported lines around - with consistent releases so that the retailers keep stocking the core books and you can always buy them slowly as they come out rather than all at once. It supports retail to help them make money to survive and gives you more storyline. By funding a lot of material it means it's 100% guaranteed to be produced, if we don't fund it during the Kickstarter then we may produce it if the line is a success, but there's no guarantees. We're not doing everything through Kickstarter though - the core book for this will be a pre-order, various other releases are also pre-orders, but as a growing business you have to be very careful not to have cash tied up in stock - so funding through a Kickstarter basically guarantees the product, and we try as hard as we can to give the best possible deal.

**Zond**

I appreciate consistent releases as much as the next person hoping for their model, rpg or card fix, scratches that itch. Sometimes however it's just too much. Or it falls into the new stuff equals supported fallacy. I can see how this campaign will go already. We'll get a sourcebook for each faction, then each planet. A few campaign books. Again it's all high quality but it could be condensed a lot. Great for pdf pledges, terrible for the print wallet.

Again it doesn't really matter as you have me by the short and curlies as I'll pledge stupid amounts as I enjoy the set to ng, and you run some of the most successful pen and paper kickstarters out there so my ranting means nothing.

**modiphius**

Zond wrote:
I appreciate consistent releases as much as the next person hoping for their model, rpg or card fix, scratches that itch. Sometimes however it's just too much. Or it falls into the new stuff equals supported fallacy. I can see how this campaign will go already. We'll get a sourcebook for each faction, then each planet. A few campaign books. Again it's all high quality but it could be condensed a lot. Great for pdf pledges, terrible for the print wallet.

Again it doesn't really matter as you have me by the short and curlies as I'll pledge stupid amounts as I enjoy the set to ng, and you run some of the most successful pen and paper kickstarters out there so my ranting means nothing.

We still listen though, as an example the DUST RPG is going to be more focused - good solid corebook, campaign and maybe another front book and new figures set. Having more books that you can release does help keep it in stores though - when a shop orders a supplement, they also usually order a few more of the core book, so it means you can still get the corebooks and any new releases. We've been learning from experiences and in any future kickstarters will have as much prepared and written as possible before we start up, so we can deliver to everyone quickly afterwards.

For Infinity I don't see a supplement for each planet, I think we'll be looking at areas of the sphere - the faction book will cover their worlds as well, whilst the campaigns will follow stories through different factions.

**Alpharius**

I'm going to start saving NOW.

I resisted Achtung! Cthulhu (Weird War II - one of my favorite genres!) somehow.

But this one?

Now way.

And I still quite Old School - I want printed copies!

Of....everything!

**MWHistorian**

As long as Chimeras are playable characters, I'm game.

**Casey's Law**

What Alph said. Except I'm just finding out that I love Cthulu so I've still to try and desperately roll that armour save. I'll be looking at your previous Kickstarters to get an idea of what I need to save up.

**GrimDork**

Yeah Chimera would be pretty fun to play/have in the party I'd imagine.

**Miss Dee**

I asked to play test the RPG not hurd anything back yet.

**Daba**

Did you get an auto response, or nothing at all?

**Paradigm**

I got nothing back. Has anyone heard anything?

**Daba**

I haven't heard anything either, I was just wondering if I put my email on since there wasn't an auto response when I did so!

**Miss Dee**

I sent off an email asking.

**Casey's Law**

I signed up on the website which basically sets you up for a newsletter as far as I can tell. Not had any email blasts through yet but I guess when Beta is available we'll all get the details emailed to us.

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P.S. There is a playtesting forum on the website but I haven't really looked at it too closely.

**Miss Dee**

Hi Derina did you sign up to our playtest page at www.modiphius.com/infinity ?

We'll be sending out playtest info at the end of this month

thanks!

chris

**Casey's Law**

Nice, not long to go.

**modiphius**

Spent the weekend with the guys at Corvus Belli doing a massive data dump on the universe, their original adventures and they found their old character sheets so we'll be letting you take original Infinity heroes as Pre-gens in the core book!

**Casey's Law**

Sounds like a lot of fun, was the language barrier a problem at all? Very happy to hear that the original characters will be pre-gens.

**modiphius**

Casey's Law wrote:
Sounds like a lot of fun, was the language barrier a problem at all? Very happy to hear that the original characters will be pre-gens.

No they could speak good english, now I'll have to start learning some spanish as I think we'll be spending a lot of time talking! When you get them started on their old adventures there's no stopping them :-)

**Alpharius**

INFINITY RPG playtest beta stuff is ready for download!

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/492nbz3j9ctjk

Modiphius' Forums...leave a bit to be desired, so let's discuss this here, in the Friendly Confines of Dakka Dakka!

Also:

A few of you asked questions in the sign up - here's some quick answers!

- As you may have heard the 2d20 system core mechanic is actually inspired by the Infinity rules. We'll be talking more about that but have already mentioned this in a couple of podcasts and blog posts in our Advent Calendar.

- We will be producing translations later in the year with other publishing partners for Spanish, French and German (maybe others too)

- You will be playing individual characters from all human factions including Aleph. Supplements will introduce the Tohaa and other possibilities...

- You will be able to use your existing Infinity miniatures if you like to use minis.

- There will be several ways of having characters from different factions working together and there is a big plot for you to follow, as well as numerous other campaign stories, either on the front lines in the Paradiso system or elsewhere in the Human Sphere or beyond...

- Corvus Belli will be producing some sets of RPG miniatures using existing miniatures designs for new players who just want some sample characters, later on and production capacity allowing, Corvus Belli may create some specific miniatures for the RPG. These will not be exclusive to the Kickstarter though will be available there first.

- There will be a whole line of books, we'll be asking questions about what you'd like to see in the next month!

- There will be map tiles and maps for those who like using miniatures with the RPG but neither minis or maps will be required for play. You can simply use your imagination as with other RPG's.

- The adventures will cover both the stories of the Infinity team and their first adventures set during the Campaign Paradiso timeline, but you can also set your adventures during the opening shots of the war when humanity is attacked, or at any other time.

- There will be new and existing art, but we will be showing other sides of the Infinity world that you haven't seen yet, as well as exploring the factions, worlds, technology and more

- There will be a conversion system to take your RPG character in to the tabletop game.

- The pre-order (expected in the 2 months ) will be for fans to order direct from Modiphius, but at the same time we'll be working with distributors to make the books available for pre-order through stores if you prefer to support your local store. However if you pre-order via Modiphius you will receive a series of bonus PDF adventures following the footsteps of the Infinity team's first adventures and you will receive the PDF of the corebook as soon as it's ready.

- The Kickstarter (which will be later in the year) will allow those who missed the pre-order to pick up the corebook with some special deals, along with other books and accessories in the line. The corebook will remain available in retail after the pre-order.

- There will be a special limited edition book in the pre-order and during the Kickstarter. More news on that later!

**GrimDork**

Cool. So there's a preorder, and *then* the kickstarter. Interesting arrangement. May mean the kickstarter backers will have a pretty sound understanding of the core product as it may already exist in the wild before the KS runs?

Exporting your RPG characters to the skirmish game? Could be pretty neat, also broken, but interesting nonetheless.

I look forward to seeing what minis they may come up with. Now, time to go take a peek at these rules..

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^Wow the character sheet alone... damage to specific body parts... good thing we're only tracking ourselves here, wonder if they bother with that for NPCs? Definitely a different system compared to what I'm used to.

**Paradigm**

I've taken a quick look and I like what I see; it doesn't look overly complicated, but still plenty deep enough, and the scenario looks fun. I'm going to have to round up some minis to use as goons and try to run the scenario, albeit against myself most likely.