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2014/11/05 06:23:31
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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It's been 2 years since the first book came out (spoilers: nothing happens) and there was a rumor that Abnett is able to make a lot more money on Guardians of the Galaxy then with 40k stuff, so is this dead, or just sleeping?
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2014/11/05 08:23:24
Subject: Re:Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Funny, I only finished re-reading "Pariah" this afternoon, and was wondering about the future of "Penitent"...
I mean, the cover art was finalised and everything...
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2014/11/05 20:50:20
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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They have Abnett tasked with working on HH until next year some time, afaik.
This in addition to his work with Marvel, which does, indeed, pay lots more than GW does.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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2014/11/06 01:39:14
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Also, Warmaster (Gaunts Ghosts). The release date has changed like 3 times. It also has cover art finalized...
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2014/11/06 02:49:34
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Final cover art really doesn't mean anything, esp since 99% of GW books only require "draw (insert army here) looking bad ass with fire and explosions and stuff".
Still it's better than the old days when they just used inventory art which might or might not vaguely resemble what's going on inside.
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2014/11/06 03:00:43
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Abhorrent Grotesque Aberration
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And this is why I prefer to wait until a series is fully published before starting the first book.
My worst experience with something like this was reading the first book of the dark tower series by Stephen king. It took that punk about 22 years to finish the whole thing: and I was completely disappointed in the ending.
 apparently, even years later I'm still bitter.
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2014/11/06 03:05:10
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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clively wrote:And this is why I prefer to wait until a series is fully published before starting the first book. My worst experience with something like this was reading the first book of the dark tower series by Stephen king. It took that punk about 22 years to finish the whole thing: and I was completely disappointed in the ending. apparently, even years later I'm still bitter.
You're a stronger man than I am. I gave up after the first decade or so. Looked up the ending on Wikipedia a while back. Fortunately nothing happened in book 1 of R vs E so I'm not on the edge of my seat 
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2014/11/06 08:32:47
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Plenty happened in Pariah. :p Just the important thing was setting the scene.
Heh. Maybe Penitent will be a setting book for Dark Heresy.
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2015/11/03 08:24:45
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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So, one year later.
Any news?
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2015/11/03 09:29:41
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Focused Fire Warrior
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I think Abnett has been working on other stuff for GW, aka HH and this new ork series.
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2020/05/11 10:23:30
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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So five years later (I found this thread looking for something else) any news?
Magus was kind of cool.
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2020/05/11 10:41:13
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I haven't heard anything - does Abnett do AMAs anywhere? Might be one to go direct to the source on...
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
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Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
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2020/05/11 12:50:29
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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 Dysartes wrote:I haven't heard anything - does Abnett do AMAs anywhere? Might be one to go direct to the source on...
We know he's writing the last Horus Heresy book, which is presumably in 2022? He's mentioned working on Interceptor City (Double Eagle 2) recently if I remember right, so I'd expect that first.
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2020/05/11 12:55:54
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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So... 2023 at the earliest? Just in time for the 10th anniversary!
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2020/05/13 04:47:19
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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 Arbitrator wrote: Dysartes wrote:I haven't heard anything - does Abnett do AMAs anywhere? Might be one to go direct to the source on...
We know he's writing the last Horus Heresy book, which is presumably in 2022? He's mentioned working on Interceptor City (Double Eagle 2) recently if I remember right, so I'd expect that first.
do we? when was that confirmed?
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2020/10/13 10:01:07
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Just an early celebration of this thread's 6 year birthday!
Happy birthday lack of news on Eisenhorn vs Ravenor!
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2020/10/13 10:10:52
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:Just an early celebration of this thread's 6 year birthday!
Happy birthday lack of news on Eisenhorn vs Ravenor!
Pfft its a youngen yet! Now talk about a long wait Dance with Dragons was out in 2011 and its now 2020 and still no release date on the next Game of Thrones
Though I seem to recall Dan was in a video thing with GW this year and something was mentioned about him working on something in the Inquisition series; but I don't remember any specific details.
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2020/10/13 10:46:45
Subject: Re:Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Wh-what do we do when it's a MOD that necro's the thread...?!
HERESY ALERT!!
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2020/10/13 11:00:45
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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 Overread wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote:Just an early celebration of this thread's 6 year birthday!
Happy birthday lack of news on Eisenhorn vs Ravenor!
Pfft its a youngen yet! Now talk about a long wait Dance with Dragons was out in 2011 and its now 2020 and still no release date on the next Game of Thrones
GRRM already got his "movie" deal. no reason to complete the series.
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2020/10/13 11:11:27
Subject: Re:Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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 Super Ready wrote:Wh-what do we do when it's a MOD that necro's the thread...?!
HERESY ALERT!!
It's not a necro if there's new information to report! 
Like, um, still no news...
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2020/10/13 11:21:38
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Numberless Necron Warrior
Scotland, UK
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From what I understand he finished Penitent in August, and Pandemonium is coming soon...
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/i2yn90/abnetts_penitent_is_finished/
Link to the twitch clip there.
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2020/10/13 12:15:41
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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No rumour about it.
Marvel (DC used to as well) does pay better than GW for writing. Even if they did poach most of their good writers from the UK back in the 70s and 80s.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2020/10/13 12:27:40
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Plus IIRC Marvel and DC writers get pseudo royalties when their material is used in TV, film or toys.
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2020/10/13 12:36:25
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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To be fair Marvel and DC have far bigger audiences than Black Library - even within gamers markets not everyone reads the BL stuff. Which is a shame, I certainly missed out on a lot of stuff years ago.
I always feel GW could somehow do more for the BL with more cross-over content. I enjoyed seeing then put things like the new Soul Wars book into the starter set for AoS and such. Things like that should happen more often. Perhaps they could put a code into every Getting Started set for a free short story or two ebook download for the faction .
Little things like that to entice people into reading more BL stories and novels.
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2020/10/13 13:38:44
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Otiose in a Niche
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I'd be interested in seeing real numbers. Most DC/Marvel comics sell in the 20k range each month, with 100k considered a huge hit. But these days there's also digital and TPB sales which we don't have the same visibility on.
Some BL books have been NYT best sellers but I don't have any real numbers. IIRC 10-20k is kind of the floor for a profitable paperback.
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2020/10/13 13:42:49
Subject: Is Ravenor vs Eisenhorn dead or only sleeping?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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I'd expect high regional variation - eg comics are much bigger in the USA than the UK; but at the same time the USA is many many times the size of the UK so that swings things in favour of comics.
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