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I've been working on crunch ideas if Eliphas was to be a Special Character in actual games of 40K. What I've devised here is everything but his own personal Special Rules, and he can purchase Marks and Rewards at the same price as regular Chaos Lords. Feel free to PM me if you have any ideas/suggestions.


Eliphas the Inheritor (160pts)
WS7 BS5 S4 T4 I5 A3 W3 Ld.10 Sv.3+/4++

Special Rules: Fearless, Champion of Chaos, Independent Character, Psyker (Level 1), Veterans of the Long War
-Has access to Biomancy, Pyromancy, Telekinesis, Telepathy, and Daemonology

Warlord Trait: Exalted Champion

Wargear;
-Power Sword
-Bolt Pistol
-Frag and Krak Grenades
-Sigil of Corruption

Artifact of Chaos
Daemon Armor: Gives Eliphas an Armor Save of 3+. Allows him to re-roll Invulnerable Saves of 1.

Options
-Replace his Power Sword for an Accursed Crozius…………………………………………………………………………………………….……………………………...free
-Replace his Bolt Pistol with a Meltagun…………………………………………………………………...............................................................................………………..…10pts
-Take the Helm of Lorgar (All friendly units in 6" benefit from Eliphas' Mark. Does not stack with the unit's Mark if it matches Eliphas')……………………..…45pts

-Replace his Power Armor, Grenades, and Bolt Pistol for Terminator Armor and Combi-Bolter…………...…………40pts
-Map replace his Power Sword with dual Lightning Claws…………………………………………………………..30pts
-May replace his Combi-Bolter with a Combi-Flamer…………………………………………………………………..5pts
-May replace his Power Sword with the Daemon Sword (+2S, Ap2, Two-Handed and Shred)…………………35pts

Which game was he in? Which one was the reborn failure?

The problem is why wouldn't you want to take a daemon sword that's ap2 at initiative without need to MoK and AoBF. Make it ap3.

All friendly units in 6" benefit from Eliphas' Mark - and he may take any mark? So, you mean, you can get an almost army wide +1 toughness for just 45 pts? You can get t5 zerkers/fnp t5 slaanesh guyz? I don't think it's a good thing to do.

I don't see the option to take a Mark?

Also skeptical about WS7 and AP2 at Initiative.

I would change Helm of Lorgar to only upgrading his unit or being able to select one unit within X'' at the start of every turn and bestowing his mark's ability onto it. It wouldn't be as good as it is now, but being able to give a unit of, say, 20 Chaos Space Marines MoN for a turn is still very excellent utillity. I would also specify that the ability can't be used to give mark abilities to cult troops. No giving MoT powers to Plague Marines, for example.

Beyond that, I have no issues. At-initiative strength 6 AP2 seems alright to me for 195 points. He's more expensive than a Hive Tyrant at that point despite being less durable. Hell, you can get a MoK Lord with jump-pack, power fist and the at-iniative AP2 AoBF for 45 points less than this guy.

Special characters should be fixed or nearly fixed with very little options, not a "make your own" grocery list, that's what generic HQs are for.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Special characters should be fixed or nearly fixed with very little options, not a "make your own" grocery list, that's what generic HQs are for.

To me, special character is defined by his unique special rules more often than not. It's just easier to design an entire concept through and through without worrying about some options being better than others, and others simply not worth taking for what the rest of the model is doing - for the point costs that those options are offered for.

A simple fix for the daemon sword is just to change it to x2 strength and add unwieldy

He doesn't have the statline to survive challenges with an I1 weapon.

I don't see why his sword needs fixing. He's putting out 4 strength 6 AP2 attacks on the charge- that's an average of 2 dead marines a turn. Whoop-de-doo.

In hindsight his helm is pretty overpowered. On the other hand, his Daemon Sword can only be taken if he has Terminator Armor which isn't exactly cheap to begin with (If he takes only the sword and Terminator Armor, he clocks in at 235 points). Perhaps they could be changed to this;

Helm of Lorgar: Gives friendly units in 12" Zealot.

The Daemon Sword: +2S, Ap2, Daemon Weapon

 BlaxicanX wrote:
He doesn't have the statline to survive challenges with an I1 weapon.

I don't see why his sword needs fixing. He's putting out 4 strength 6 AP2 attacks on the charge- that's an average of 2 dead marines a turn. Whoop-de-doo.

4 + d6 s6 ap2 attacks. That's 1 attack less than Abaddon.