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Yeah Mei ice clutch.... god

i had game yesterday on the Russian map on defense

it was the last seconds of defense and the enemy team ultied in wiped my team while i was dead, im come out as bastion and ulti as they are on the point and hurt. the second that happens Mei ice walls and i cry because she blocked all my shots :( we lost the game but i still got PotG

 Desubot wrote:
I dont think there is any map with a single door way choke point.

there is always 2-3 options at least. some that require wall climbers or jumpers most of the time.

you can do it with mei to some times.

I dunno. First point on Hanamura is pretty close to that, even with the side paths (which if you have no vertical movement skills may as well not exist for you)

I have no issues getting through the wall with tracer from the upper ledge. + there is a conveniently placed full med pack to the left on the edge after you slip past there.

As a side note, iv noticed i can kinda control what everyone does by slipping past and forcing half the enemy to leave the choke. then spamming the crap out of the group up with me button.

 Chongara wrote:
It's a constant barrage of stimulation with movement, sound effects going, you're always being shot at. Then that overtime music kicks in.

Yeah. Especially when you're stuck behind the enemy lines, hiding and suddenly almost all your focus is on where the footsteps are going.

Blizzard has made it easy enough to have 'casual' groups as well- I'm always looking for people to friend, and for casual games it's nice, even if you're not talking, to just know someone's semi-competent or willing to watch your back.

My fave skin I have is B-Va, but I got lucky with gold drops in my boxes for that.. I also have the sphinx skin for Zenyetta which is great, and the Imp one for Mercy, so I am trying to get better with her so I can use it.

Tbh I got the Origins more for the WOW Winston pet, not sure any of the Origin skins will last long term, Windowmaker for me is still the standard pink, until I get the green swan one.

The bastion one is nice mind, and currently in use, as is Soldier 76's commander one.

So far I only got 2 legendary skins.. Symetra where she’s dressed like a sci fi science girl, and Reaper in his white outfit with the guitar on his back. I did get a legendary crate with 500 coins in it though and that got me enough to buy Mercy’s viking outfit that I was saving up for. Right now I have like 495 coins I think, I’m saving up to get Trobjorn’s pirate costume next.


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Oh wait.. I also got Tracer's racer outfit with the helment, forgot about that one cuz I never play her. I just get killed too quick cuz I don't use her jumping around abilities often enough like you're supposed to. Some people playing jump around all over the place constantly, I dunno how their heads don't explode.

 Desubot wrote:
Yeah Mei ice clutch.... god

i had game yesterday on the Russian map on defense

it was the last seconds of defense and the enemy team ultied in wiped my team while i was dead, im come out as bastion and ulti as they are on the point and hurt. the second that happens Mei ice walls and i cry because she blocked all my shots :( we lost the game but i still got PotG

In one match, I had a Mei on my team who I'm pretty sure was intentionally ice walling my way forward whenever she could.

Eumerin wrote:
In one match, I had a Mei on my team who I'm pretty sure was intentionally ice walling my way forward whenever she could.

The other day one of my team mates got into a team stacking argument with an opposing team member which eventuated in them challenging us to use nothing but Soldier 76. As it turns out, my team (5 of us and a random) were all quite effective with Soldier. But the enemy team would not relent that team stacking could be unbalancing, so we continued to stack 1 character. Eventually our sixth outright said it was no fun being on our team and went Mei. Then he dedicated his ice wall to inconveniencing up every chance he got. Actually made the game more fun and the enemy team stopped targeting him.

Naturally we all swapped to Mei to confuse the issue. They then stacked Reaper and wrecked us.

 Necros wrote:
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Oh wait.. I also got Tracer's racer outfit with the helment, forgot about that one cuz I never play her. I just get killed too quick cuz I don't use her jumping around abilities often enough like you're supposed to. Some people playing jump around all over the place constantly, I dunno how their heads don't explode.

Mach Tracer is the best skin. She's not the easiest hero to play, but jumping forward, backward isn't the hardest thing to do. Pressing E - recall will often put you on a flank of the enemy team. Map awareness is important, the other is to know who and when you can try to kill. She's more annoyance than DPS killing machine. Nothing pleases Tracer more than having three characters chasing her all over the map.

So I was in a match earlier with a guy who harassed me over the mic the entire time, calling me garbage, telling me to never play Tracer since I can't aim, etc. (I barley have an hour of playtime on Tracer and have probably used her like 4-5 times, not sure how else I'm supposed to "git gud" if I don't fething play). Kinda ruined the night for me, honestly.

I noticed the guy was over rank 90 and had 100+ hours of play time put into it, though, which is literally more than four times what I've got logged. I'm sorry, but how? The game hasn't even really been out for a month yet, and he's hardly the only one, either; I've seen plenty of others who are rank 100+. I seriously don't understand how anyone has that much free time to play, do you not work? Do you literally do nothing else? No wonder he was so upset.

Man, I sure hope they get that ranked/competitive play out soon, so guys like that can all migrate over and leave us dirty casuals alone so we can just play the game.

 Sidstyler wrote:

I noticed the guy was over rank 90 and had 100+ hours of play time put into it, though, which is literally more than four times what I've got logged. I'm sorry, but how?

My wife has 48 hours logged and is level 73. She works full time but loves Overwatch and had played at least every other night since release. If someone has 100+ hours they've got to have nothing else going on.

Even so I've never understood the reason for being cruel to beginners. No one starts out awesome and a truly good player- especially in Overwatch- will shore up his teams weaknesses, not belittle his team mates.

I've barely had the game two weeks and I'm like level 35. During the week I maybe get an hour or two I can play after work. I think the most play time I've put on a single character is Mercy with 4 hours, since I more often than not get stuck playing tank or support since no one else wants to, so playing offensive characters is not something I'm used to in the first place. Tracer in particular is a little tricky to use, it's easy to blink everywhere but she has no health and does almost no damage. I think my mouse sensitivity is set way too high, too; my mouse is normally like 3-4k dpi and I had my sensitivity set to like 25-30 in-game. That my be affecting my aim somewhat, so I guess I have to play around more and see what works, maybe adjust the targeting reticle too since I haven't played with that yet, either.

You get less exp for defeat, if you leave games you gain no exp. I think the game clock always times the length of your games. If you team up, you gain bonus experience towards level progression as well. I do hope there will be a way to hide the progression level.

I was rather frustrated in my previous game, all we had to do is to go in as a group and victory would be ours. Need to get more people so there's always someone to play with.

Edit: I play with 600 - 800 dpi. Higher dpi, higher chance to overshoot with your cursor when the enemy moves. I also changed the cross-hair to green circle.

What does it mean when someone has a gold star under their portrait when you're selecting your team? I've seen that a bunch of times.

I tried playing Zarya last night, she was pretty fun. I was under the impression that she can shoot through reinharts shield, but it didn't seem to work? I did have a Dva that kept coming after me, she would put up her shield and my beam would just melt her mech into nothing. She did more damage to me with her little pistol when she jumped out since it was a much smaller target. Still trying to figure out the whole shielding people = damage buff thing I read about.. I kept dropping a shield on people and it didn't seem to do anything at all.

With Zarya, you get a boost to your damage when people shoot at either you or a teammate while shielded. So ideally you'd want to shield a teammate while they're engaged with the enemy. The shields don't last very long, though.

I think a star means they're at least level 100. So if they're level 35 with a star below their portrait they're actually 135?

 Necros wrote:
What does it mean when someone has a gold star under their portrait when you're selecting your team? I've seen that a bunch of times.

I tried playing Zarya last night, she was pretty fun. I was under the impression that she can shoot through reinharts shield, but it didn't seem to work? I did have a Dva that kept coming after me, she would put up her shield and my beam would just melt her mech into nothing. She did more damage to me with her little pistol when she jumped out since it was a much smaller target. Still trying to figure out the whole shielding people = damage buff thing I read about.. I kept dropping a shield on people and it didn't seem to do anything at all.

Gold star is i think like level 200+

dude the dva pistol is boss. you gotta get good at head shooting and placing shots a little ways in front of the enemies pathway. its super slow bullets.
same with mercy.

Also on Zarya shield its kinda stupid clutch. had a team mate drop it on right before a dead eye, and i got to live. it blocks all projectile. its just too short a duration.

Yeah I do pretty good with Mercy's gun, lately though I've been looking for a change from healing all the time because lately it seems like my team just doesn't want to be healed. So I'd rather have more fun blowing stuff up, so I'll save Mercy for when it looks like my team has a clue

We're not entirely sure whether or not Zarya's beam goes through Reinhardt's shield. Zenyatta's orbs definitely do, so it's not like it's completely impervious- and I feel like I've seen damage being done to him by me through the shield during a death-cam once or twice (since I tend to target Reinhardt's when I play as Zarya). We need to Science it, I think.

I have definitely been killed by orange / purple death orbs going through Reinhardt's shield before. Gotta admit I thought they came from Symmetra, not Zarya though.

Yeah I've seen Symetra's big orbs go through his shield before, but those things are so slow, you can see em coming a mile away.. they really should speed em up a bit.

When I was playing Zarya last night, I was use the beam on reinhart and he didn't seem to be taking any damage, but his shield was cracking. I don't think anyone else was shooting it but I might be wrong. It looked like the alt fire blast was going through it though.. Maybe it blocks the straight beam, but not the alt?

 Necros wrote:
Yeah I've seen Symetra's big orbs go through his shield before, but those things are so slow, you can see em coming a mile away.. they really should speed em up a bit.

When I was playing Zarya last night, I was use the beam on reinhart and he didn't seem to be taking any damage, but his shield was cracking. I don't think anyone else was shooting it but I might be wrong. It looked like the alt fire blast was going through it though.. Maybe it blocks the straight beam, but not the alt?

Neither of Zaryas abilities pass through barriers. However her alt fire does have a fairly wide splash radius and arcs, so you can still get him by chucking it over the shield and grazing his head or just doing to the left right and he may get caught in the splash.

Anvildude wrote:
We're not entirely sure whether or not Zarya's beam goes through Reinhardt's shield. Zenyatta's orbs definitely do, so it's not like it's completely impervious- and I feel like I've seen damage being done to him by me through the shield during a death-cam once or twice (since I tend to target Reinhardt's when I play as Zarya). We need to Science it, I think.

I'm not completely sure, but I think Mei's short-range attack will at least slow Rheinhardt, even if his shield is up.

Of course, that attack is so short-ranged that it also puts her dangerously close to his hammer range - and one opponent actually managed to take advantage of that.

Eumerin wrote:

Anvildude wrote:
We're not entirely sure whether or not Zarya's beam goes through Reinhardt's shield. Zenyatta's orbs definitely do, so it's not like it's completely impervious- and I feel like I've seen damage being done to him by me through the shield during a death-cam once or twice (since I tend to target Reinhardt's when I play as Zarya). We need to Science it, I think.

I'm not completely sure, but I think Mei's short-range attack will at least slow Rheinhardt, even if his shield is up.

Of course, that attack is so short-ranged that it also puts her dangerously close to his hammer range - and one opponent actually managed to take advantage of that.

Mei will slaughter Reinhardt if he drops his shield. Freeze icicle headshot icicle headshot repeat, iceblock if you become injured, cancel early to dodge his charge.

Mei will slaughter anyone up close, on the other hand. A Reaper _can_ take her but it is risky as hell and it is better to just avoid her altogether, as you have barely a second to kill her before you are frozen and your death is gauranteed. Post nerf McCree is no longer a reliable answer.

Mei honestly feels a bit too strong. She won't kill as quickly as Reaper but her CC potential and utility more than compensates for that even if you discount the high damage her icicles do (letting her contribute high damage from range comparable to McCree, something Reaper certainly cannot.)

I can't imagine, with Blizzard's slavish obsession with technical balance, that'll stay the case for long.

Reinhardt's shield will block Zarya's beam or her alternative projectile fire. The shield will take damage as normal. Charged up Zarya is a beauty to behold. She just melts people, even Roadhogs.

Also on Zarya shield its kinda stupid clutch. had a team mate drop it on right before a dead eye, and i got to live. it blocks all projectile. its just too short a duration.

The barrier blocks 200 HP worth of damage.

I think it's likely we're going to see patches corresponding to ranked seasons. I hope they treat maps the same way, adding different maps for every ranked season with a possibility to veto some of them.

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When do we get our first batch of new skins?? I'm starting to really itch for some new fancy stuff to play with.

Jeff Kaplan wrote:This summer.

Ha, ha, amp it up!

 Ashiraya wrote:

Eumerin wrote:

Anvildude wrote:
We're not entirely sure whether or not Zarya's beam goes through Reinhardt's shield. Zenyatta's orbs definitely do, so it's not like it's completely impervious- and I feel like I've seen damage being done to him by me through the shield during a death-cam once or twice (since I tend to target Reinhardt's when I play as Zarya). We need to Science it, I think.

I'm not completely sure, but I think Mei's short-range attack will at least slow Rheinhardt, even if his shield is up.

Of course, that attack is so short-ranged that it also puts her dangerously close to his hammer range - and one opponent actually managed to take advantage of that.

Mei will slaughter Reinhardt if he drops his shield. Freeze icicle headshot icicle headshot repeat, iceblock if you become injured, cancel early to dodge his charge.

Mei will slaughter anyone up close, on the other hand. A Reaper _can_ take her but it is risky as hell and it is better to just avoid her altogether, as you have barely a second to kill her before you are frozen and your death is gauranteed. Post nerf McCree is no longer a reliable answer.

Mei honestly feels a bit too strong. She won't kill as quickly as Reaper but her CC potential and utility more than compensates for that even if you discount the high damage her icicles do (letting her contribute high damage from range comparable to McCree, something Reaper certainly cannot.)

Mei is not that strong. She's widely considered to be pretty weak overall, you'll find her at the bottom half of just about every tier list and the pros don't touch her with a 20ft pole. She has a lot of things holding her back from a power standpoint: Low mobility, poor threat projection, some of the lowest dps in the game at any range. She's good duelist if her opponent has no way to interrupt the freeze or they just don't have the aim to get her down fast enough.

Don't fight on her terms, don't fight her solo if you're someone like Zarya or Soldier:76 that she can out sustain and she is not a huge issue. Her primary value is in area denial and her ability to stick on objectives for long periods.

It's a team game, I thought the base assumption is that you're NOT fighting them alone? I find it odd that people are arguing from the position that the base is one on one combat.

 Chongara wrote:


Don't fight on her terms, don't fight her solo if you're someone like Zarya or Soldier:76 that she can out sustain and she is not a huge issue. Her primary value is in area denial and her ability to stick on objectives for long periods.

Emphasis mine.


See, this is why I don't understand why she's not classified as a Tank. I mean, I understand that she has really low health for that designation, but she's really not a defender- she's a stopper and a stayer. I think she and Zarya should maybe swap designations, because Zarya is much more defensive a fighter, yet significantly lacks the ability to stick on a point or hold a position- she's not mobile, but she has to stay moving.