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I like the teleport best. She's totally my kind of character, since I'm the kind of gamer who usually likes to move fast and hit fast too

I just like how she's not truly evil and not truly "good" either. We need more characters with that sort of moral grey area. She played Reaper and Widow to gain access to a new "friend". I would say (in DnD terms) she's more chaotic neutral, she more cares about what benefits her than anything else

I like that she isn't just an agent of Talon too, but I'm also disappointed at the same time that she's not clearly bad - Overwatch really doesn't have enough bad guys, or narcissistic characters like her.

I agree on her not being a Talon agent, but I disagree that she should be clearly evil. To me, many characters who are clearly good/evil are boring. Having that moral grey area to me gives characters the chance to be much more interesting

 War Kitten wrote:
I agree on her not being a Talon agent, but I disagree that she should be clearly evil. To me, many characters who are clearly good/evil are boring. Having that moral grey area to me gives characters the chance to be much more interesting

It doesn't have to be her, I'm mainly moaning that the Overwatch cast overall consists of too many heroes and neutrals. And of the two certified villains we have, only one has an interesting backstory, since the other has been deliberately designed to be an emotionless shell of a human being.

I think Blizzard made a good character with Sombra. Now just make us some proper villains to hate dammit!

I'm mostly saying all this in the hopes of one day Overwatch including a mode that lets us play with thematic teams once the cast is big enough to balance out any potential imbalances that would bring. Because my immersion meters are at an all time low when I play Overwatch

ANDDDDDD...
Blizzard Shot Themselves in the Foot, By Making Quickplay "Casual Competitive" and Old Quickplay as "MY TITLE MEANS YOU CAN HERO STACK! DO IT!" (Its title will be "NO LIMITS!")

All i want to do is Play McCree when the Team Has one, or play Hanzo without being Criticized
You see if they SWAPPED it around (Quickplay stays as normal, 1-Hero Limit is an Arcade Mode) then the Community would be happy

Sombra is released on console "Oh Cool i cant wait to play her!...Oh Wait the Enemy Team has 6 Meis because the Title of the Gamemode told them they could do that"

Literally Dividing the Playerbase

I mean, I don't understand why they are. Reaper, Soldier, Tracer, Zarya, Lucio, and Roadhog are all great friends aren't they?

commander dante wrote:ANDDDDDD...
Blizzard Shot Themselves in the Foot, By Making Quickplay "Casual Competitive" and Old Quickplay as "MY TITLE MEANS YOU CAN HERO STACK! DO IT!" (Its title will be "NO LIMITS!")

All i want to do is Play McCree when the Team Has one, or play Hanzo without being Criticized
You see if they SWAPPED it around (Quickplay stays as normal, 1-Hero Limit is an Arcade Mode) then the Community would be happy

Sombra is released on console "Oh Cool i cant wait to play her!...Oh Wait the Enemy Team has 6 Meis because the Title of the Gamemode told them they could do that"

Literally Dividing the Playerbase

Did I miss some kind of announcement?

War Kitten wrote:I mean, I don't understand why they are. Reaper, Soldier, Tracer, Zarya, Lucio, and Roadhog are all great friends aren't they?

They all go out for pizza on a Thursday, cos all that Omnic Crisis gak and the need to pick a side can wait over a thick crust pepperoni, and the need to push that payload full of random crap across a canyon in North America


Seriously though, when you draw the lines between the characters, there are very few who wouldn't conceivably get on well with each other. Even the Overwatch agents are pretty loose on who they're fine with being on their team sometimes.

Deep Dish Pizza is a great way to make friends.

"And thus the 2nd Omnic Crisis was averted, as Jack Morrison told his fellow Overwatch agents and Gabriel Reyes that he knows a place in New York that does a banging thick crust, and that he'll be paying"

Sounds like the worst fanfiction ever

I think you mean the BEST fan fiction ever.

I'm rather intrigued by Sombras abilities, especially that EMP...

Hardly my best work, but thanks


I think she's going to be on par with Tracer in the "bloody ing bull sucking keeps killing me!" department.


That suits me just fine - I love playstyles in multiplayer games that allow me to cloak myself and move very fast.

 General Annoyance wrote:

commander dante wrote:ANDDDDDD...
Blizzard Shot Themselves in the Foot, By Making Quickplay "Casual Competitive" and Old Quickplay as "MY TITLE MEANS YOU CAN HERO STACK! DO IT!" (Its title will be "NO LIMITS!")

All i want to do is Play McCree when the Team Has one, or play Hanzo without being Criticized
You see if they SWAPPED it around (Quickplay stays as normal, 1-Hero Limit is an Arcade Mode) then the Community would be happy

Sombra is released on console "Oh Cool i cant wait to play her!...Oh Wait the Enemy Team has 6 Meis because the Title of the Gamemode told them they could do that"

Literally Dividing the Playerbase

Did I miss some kind of announcement?

War Kitten wrote:I mean, I don't understand why they are. Reaper, Soldier, Tracer, Zarya, Lucio, and Roadhog are all great friends aren't they?

They all go out for pizza on a Thursday, cos all that Omnic Crisis gak and the need to pick a side can wait over a thick crust pepperoni, and the need to push that payload full of random crap across a canyon in North America


Seriously though, when you draw the lines between the characters, there are very few who wouldn't conceivably get on well with each other. Even the Overwatch agents are pretty loose on who they're fine with being on their team sometimes.

Blizzard Annouced that they will be enforcing a "1-Hero Limit" on Quickplay, Which will turn it into casual Competitive and will move old Quickplay into the "Arcade" (A Selection of all the Weekly Brawls) with the title "NO LIMITS!" Which will encourage people to Hero Stack

I welcome a one hero limit personally. Now maybe I can have a game without seeing 5 Hanzos, or 5 McCrees, or 5 Torbjorns

Yeah that doesn't sound too bad honestly. Maybe they should have made it a 2 limit, but I'm glad there is a limit of some sorts

 War Kitten wrote:
I welcome a one hero limit personally. Now maybe I can have a game without seeing 5 Hanzos, or 5 McCrees, or 5 Torbjorns

Yet if i want to play McCree when someone Else has picked him, Or Play Hanzo without Being Criticized....I Have to Face this, NOT FUN

They're basically doing "Meet Your Match", and we all know how THAT Turned out...(Hint: Not Very Well)

1 Hero Limit works as a Secondary Gamemode, but making it a Primary Gamemode will cause trouble, as New Players will be like "BIG SHINY QUICKPLAY BUTTON!, Oh Wait why cant i play this Hero who my Friend said was Awesome?"

All that needs to be done is make a 1 hero limit gamemode be in the Arcade, and keep quickplay the same
People who play for Fun will go to Quickplay
People Who play for Comp will go to Competitive
People who want to hone their skills in comp will go to 1 hero limit

I understand where you're coming from, but I firmly believe that Hero limits are needed in the main game. Without them we get stupid gak like troll teams, which hint hint, is even less fun than not getting to play the hero you want. Speaking of which, having multiple heroes you play hellps mitigate that a fair bit

 War Kitten wrote:
I understand where you're coming from, but I firmly believe that Hero limits are needed in the main game. Without them we get stupid gak like troll teams, which hint hint, is even less fun than not getting to play the hero you want. Speaking of which, having multiple heroes you play hellps mitigate that a fair bit

Yes but how often do you get troll teams? Very Unlikely
If the Gamemodes Name is literally "NO LIMITS!" People are going to be a troll team "as they can, as its No Limits"

Sure a 1 hero limit works in SERIOUS Gamemodes (I.E Comp) but when i want to earn XP (Did i mention that the Arcade lowers XP rate, as with all weekly Brawls? Blizzard are Penalizing you for wanting to play X Hero or have fun) i have to be subject to "Meta" teams and the one Tryhard who Criticizes your Pick because he cant tell the Difference Between Comp and Quickplay

Currently Blizzard are like "We only Listen to what the Competitive Players Want, The Quickplay users, who make up most of our playerbase"

I get troll teams extremely often, so I'm a bit biased

 War Kitten wrote:
I get troll teams extremely often, so I'm a bit biased

All im asking is to make a 1 hero limit a secondary gamemode, and keeo quickplay as normal, BOTH on the Gamemode Selection Screen (Place 1 hero limit, lets call it "Formal" where Play VS AI is and move Play VS AI into the Arcade)
So then you would get QUICKPLAY, FORMAL, COMPETITIVE, CUSTOM GAMES, ARCADE

To change topic, who else suspects Sombra is going to quickly become one of those characters that people love to play, but hate to fight? (ala Hanzo, Tracer, Roadhog, Mei)

commander dante wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I get troll teams extremely often, so I'm a bit biased

All im asking is to make a 1 hero limit a secondary gamemode, and keeo quickplay as normal, BOTH on the Gamemode Selection Screen (Place 1 hero limit, lets call it "Formal" where Play VS AI is and move Play VS AI into the Arcade)
So then you would get QUICKPLAY, FORMAL, COMPETITIVE, CUSTOM GAMES, ARCADE

The problem I have with your argument is that you should always be able to play flexibly in Overwatch. As much as I appreciate us all having our favourites (pretty sure you can guess mine and how often I play that hero) you'll get the most out of Overwatch by playing as many of the different playstyles as you possibly can, both in and out of competitive.

And yes, troll teams are pretty frequent on Quickplay, because it's so easy to draw a win with one if the enemy team does not communicate and thus fails to counter with their own troll team. That's very common in Quickplay since micing up is not something you have to do in that format of Overwatch, unlike competitive.

War Kitten wrote:To change topic, who else suspects Sombra is going to quickly become one of those characters that people love to play, but hate to fight? (ala Hanzo, Tracer, Roadhog, Mei)

She and Mercy will be what the Spy and the Medic are in TF2; the Medic - the class that everyone loves, but nobody wants to play, and the Spy - the class that nobody loves but everyone wants to play

The question is how many good Sombra players will come out of it. People used to like thinking they were good as the Spy, until they actually saw a good Spy player. I'm pretty sure it'll be the same here.

I call dibs on her though when I finally get my PC and make the Dakka Overwatch team

Everyone loves the healer, but no one ever wants to be the healer

I enjoy playing Zenyatta a lot.

I kinda wish that Mercy had the ability to do a little 'jump forward' or 'jump backwards' thing with her suit, without having to target an ally.

Either that, or I'd love a Tank Healer- someone with a ton of health or defensive abilities that heals rather than attacking. Maybe some sort of battle-masseuse who melees allies back into fighting shape.

Just had a rather interesting game. Enemy team had 2 Genjis and 2 Roadhogs, and I was playing Mercy. 4 out of 6 of the enemy team were easily capable of picking me off without breaking a sweat. I have never seen my teammates apologize to me so much during a game

 General Annoyance wrote:
"And thus the 2nd Omnic Crisis was averted, as Jack Morrison told his fellow Overwatch agents and Gabriel Reyes that he knows a place in New York that does a banging thick crust, and that he'll be paying"

Sounds like the worst fanfiction ever

That is because you left out the beer. See, the lack of beer is whar caused Reaper to go evil in the first place.

"No beer and no tv make Homer go something something..."

"Go crazy?"

"Don't mind if I do!"

War Kitten wrote:Just had a rather interesting game. Enemy team had 2 Genjis and 2 Roadhogs, and I was playing Mercy. 4 out of 6 of the enemy team were easily capable of picking me off without breaking a sweat. I have never seen my teammates apologize to me so much during a game

Apologising for their mistakes, in a vidya game?

UNPRECEDENTED

Maniac_nmt wrote:That is because you left out the beer. See, the lack of beer is whar caused Reaper to go evil in the first place.

"No beer and no tv make Homer go something something..."

"Go crazy?"

"Don't mind if I do!"

Beers at Saturday lunch? Overwatch was right to have impeded that, Blackwatch was too dangerous as it was

I used to live in the UK, and I am pretty sure the rule was "It's five o'clock somewhere in the British Empre. Cheers!"

Of course, British cider is infinitely superior to British beer.

Gad I have missed it having moved back stateside

 General Annoyance wrote:

War Kitten wrote:Just had a rather interesting game. Enemy team had 2 Genjis and 2 Roadhogs, and I was playing Mercy. 4 out of 6 of the enemy team were easily capable of picking me off without breaking a sweat. I have never seen my teammates apologize to me so much during a game

Apologising for their mistakes, in a vidya game?

UNPRECEDENTED

Probably because their healer (aka me) kept getting murdered every 45 seconds by Genji. Funny how that works

So what's everyone thoughts on the new arcade mode, and maps?