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Finally installed and played it yesterday.....

Holy FETH the controls are bad on PC

The only real issue I have with the controls is crappy targeting selection.

 Desubot wrote:
Finally installed and played it yesterday.....

Holy FETH the controls are bad on PC

I've heard this complaint a lot especially about multiplayer...

For example, "obvious console port" was something that three separate friends said about it.

For me it was to look around i have to hold down right button but then when i walk around without it turning left or right changes my view dramatically. it gets VERY disorienting

Though i didn't try to fix it that much yet.

I just hooked up my x-box controller and will give it a try again today.

How does it perform with the Xbox controller? Is there any advantage to using a mouse and keyboard over the controller (more keys etc) or does the controller work well?

As for like the 40min i played it yes. it makes it much better i feel. (at least it feels like im playing on consol)

Anyone tried the multiplayer yet? Is there anything in that I'd need to do to unlock cool stuff for the story mode? Or vise versa?

 Melissia wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Finally installed and played it yesterday.....

Holy FETH the controls are bad on PC

I've heard this complaint a lot especially about multiplayer...

For example, "obvious console port" was something that three separate friends said about it.

Honestly to me the biggest feel for console port is the tactical view. The rest feels alright to me but that tactical view just feels so blatantly console oriented. Also felt more restrictive then the first (but I'd rather that than 2). Biggest shame is you can't go all crazy on the programming like in origins.

Same clunky as hell relationships besides that

I've enjoyed the controls using keyboard and mouse, but I admit I have never used the tactical view.

Playing a mage, got to Skyhold, greatly enjoying the game so far.

Friends of mine who have played the multiplayer have reported connectivity and dropout issues though. Otherwise they've enjoyed that portion too.

 Formosa wrote:

Eumerin wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
I got it for the pc, and something keeps slowing down my Games, it's really annoying me, anyone have any ideas. Also I don't seem able to play when. I'm not online, wtf is with that?

Might be part of their copy protection system. In DA2 and DAO, using DLC required you to be online so that the game could verify that you'd legitimately purchased the DLC in question. If you weren't online, then you couldn't use those DLC... and you also couldn't play any saved games that included those DLC.

I don't know whether you have any DLC, but it's possible that you're running afoul of a similar setup by EA and Bioware.

I lpoked it up on Google, seems it has some called denuvo that does its anti piracy thing, that's what is slowing my pc down, and apparenty I must be signed in to origin to play, this is why I hate e.a

I bought it for the PS4. So far it's crashed mid dialogue twice, to which I had to manually restart the entire PS4. And then it crashed corrupting my save. Luckily, I had a backup save, due to my experiences with DA:O and DA2.

I did expect this with Bioware. As their forté seems to be unfinished games with great stories.

It's never crashed on my X1 so far.

I just did "Champions of the Just". Damn, bruh! Hadn't expected that!

Has anyone fought any dragons? I'm level 13 and what I'm really having a problem with is that whirlwind thing dragons do where they flap their wings and draw your entire party in. My tanks can handle it just fine but my rogue and mage can't handle the heat. How do people avoid this?

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

Eumerin wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
I got it for the pc, and something keeps slowing down my Games, it's really annoying me, anyone have any ideas. Also I don't seem able to play when. I'm not online, wtf is with that?

Might be part of their copy protection system. In DA2 and DAO, using DLC required you to be online so that the game could verify that you'd legitimately purchased the DLC in question. If you weren't online, then you couldn't use those DLC... and you also couldn't play any saved games that included those DLC.

I don't know whether you have any DLC, but it's possible that you're running afoul of a similar setup by EA and Bioware.

I lpoked it up on Google, seems it has some called denuvo that does its anti piracy thing, that's what is slowing my pc down, and apparenty I must be signed in to origin to play, this is why I hate e.a

I bought it for the PS4. So far it's crashed mid dialogue twice, to which I had to manually restart the entire PS4. And then it crashed corrupting my save. Luckily, I had a backup save, due to my experiences with DA:O and DA2.

I did expect this with Bioware. As their forté seems to be unfinished games with great stories.

Why do you assume this is Bioware? Not me nor any of my friends have had any crashes or bugs at all on the PS4.

 thenoobbomb wrote:
It's never crashed on my X1 so far.

I just did "Champions of the Just". Damn, bruh! Hadn't expected that!

I did Hushed Whispers instead, so am very curious to learn the alternative path on my second playthrough. I imagine given how my story played out in that quest, it can't be the same for the Templars surely.

Also, if you thought that was a mind blowing twist, wait until the next part. Everyone thought they had an idea of what was going on; they really, really didn't.

I kind of already found out about the next mission, since I was looking up when I'd get a certain thing..

 Godless-Mimicry wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

Eumerin wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
I got it for the pc, and something keeps slowing down my Games, it's really annoying me, anyone have any ideas. Also I don't seem able to play when. I'm not online, wtf is with that?

Might be part of their copy protection system. In DA2 and DAO, using DLC required you to be online so that the game could verify that you'd legitimately purchased the DLC in question. If you weren't online, then you couldn't use those DLC... and you also couldn't play any saved games that included those DLC.

I don't know whether you have any DLC, but it's possible that you're running afoul of a similar setup by EA and Bioware.

I lpoked it up on Google, seems it has some called denuvo that does its anti piracy thing, that's what is slowing my pc down, and apparenty I must be signed in to origin to play, this is why I hate e.a

I bought it for the PS4. So far it's crashed mid dialogue twice, to which I had to manually restart the entire PS4. And then it crashed corrupting my save. Luckily, I had a backup save, due to my experiences with DA:O and DA2.

I did expect this with Bioware. As their forté seems to be unfinished games with great stories.

Why do you assume this is Bioware? Not me nor any of my friends have had any crashes or bugs at all on the PS4.

Because of the fact that these issues have existed since DA:O.

Plus the exact same issues exist in SWTOR.

Dragons are.... fights for parties of nothing but tanks. I rolled the one in the Hinterlands at level 12 and it was still a 15 minute battle, with only Cassandra still on her feet at the end.

The wing-vortex thing might be avoidable if you can have your archers Hold Position outside of its range, but that's just a theory, as I've never tried it. I went hunting for the other dragon on the Sword Coast, but never could find it.

I *thought* I had an idea of what was what when I went to go close the Breach. I did not. And now I need a training montage.

 Psienesis wrote:
Dragons are.... fights for parties of nothing but tanks. I rolled the one in the Hinterlands at level 12 and it was still a 15 minute battle, with only Cassandra still on her feet at the end.

The wing-vortex thing might be avoidable if you can have your archers Hold Position outside of its range, but that's just a theory, as I've never tried it. I went hunting for the other dragon on the Sword Coast, but never could find it.

I *thought* I had an idea of what was what when I went to go close the Breach. I did not. And now I need a training montage.

A party of nothing but tanks means you will hit a dead end on one of the plot missions...

As will taking Dorian, on another.

 Psienesis wrote:
Dragons are.... fights for parties of nothing but tanks. I rolled the one in the Hinterlands at level 12 and it was still a 15 minute battle, with only Cassandra still on her feet at the end.

The wing-vortex thing might be avoidable if you can have your archers Hold Position outside of its range, but that's just a theory, as I've never tried it. I went hunting for the other dragon on the Sword Coast, but never could find it.

I *thought* I had an idea of what was what when I went to go close the Breach. I did not. And now I need a training montage.

I actually found the solution while browsing the BioWare forum for possible answers. The trick is to set Barrier to disabled on your tactics screen for your mages, and then cast it on your squishies as soon as the wing vortex begins. The spell lasts long enough for you to come out of the vortex completely unscathed. Then you just move them out and start pelting from afar, rinse and repeat. Just beat the Hinterlands dragon with my party at level 12, 2 tanks and 2 mages. He REALLY doesn't like Blizzard.

So, "In Your Hear Shall Burn"..

Im holding off on this due to time constraints currently but what are your guys overall impressions so far?

Im hearing its huge, good story, nice gfx and feel.
But on the negative, uninspired combat, poor PC controls (#sigh, again with this?) and a lot of wandering about?

 Ratius wrote:
Im holding off on this due to time constraints currently but what are your guys overall impressions so far?

Im hearing its huge, good story, nice gfx and feel.
But on the negative, uninspired combat, poor PC controls (#sigh, again with this?) and a lot of wandering about?

I love it. The game looks gorgeous, the story really drew me in, and there's just so much to DO it's unbelievable. The only problem with it is that your party AI is sometimes just... amazingly terrible. It's still a great game though, I'm totally hooked.

I'm getting pretty excited about finally getting to play it tomorrow.

I've watched some of the trailers and Sera looks interesting. However, I imagine she's going to be completely opposite behaviour-wise to my usual goody-goody characters.

So, I'm probably going to try playing:

Elf Mage - How are the female/male voice actors this time round? Are any stand out?

Then I imagine I'll be going with Cassandra as my tank, because she carries through from the film / DA2. However the Warden guy seems pretty awesome.

Thief? Cole's pretty cool in the novels but he does appear to have a very silly looking hat.

Is there a dedicated healer type character, ala Wynne and Anders, or should my Mage be that?

 Compel wrote:
I'm getting pretty excited about finally getting to play it tomorrow.

I've watched some of the trailers and Sera looks interesting. However, I imagine she's going to be completely opposite behaviour-wise to my usual goody-goody characters.

So, I'm probably going to try playing:

Elf Mage - How are the female/male voice actors this time round? Are any stand out?

Then I imagine I'll be going with Cassandra as my tank, because she carries through from the film / DA2. However the Warden guy seems pretty awesome.

Thief? Cole's pretty cool in the novels but he does appear to have a very silly looking hat.

Is there a dedicated healer type character, ala Wynne and Anders, or should my Mage be that?

Mages don't have access to healing spells in this game. The only way you you can heal yourself is with potions. You get 8 healing potions to start with that are replenished for free everytime you stop at one of the inquisition camps that are spread around each zone. You also have 2 other slots you can fill with different types of potions that aren't free and use resources to craft/replenish.

Wow, that one managed to slip through the cracks in the previews I was watching - I've been sticking to the official stuff and this thread to avoid accidental spoilers.

So:
Me-Mage, Sera/IronBull/Cole, Cassandra?

 Compel wrote:
Wow, that one managed to slip through the cracks in the previews I was watching - I've been sticking to the official stuff and this thread to avoid accidental spoilers.

So:
Me-Mage, Sera/IronBull/Cole, Cassandra?

That's pretty much the setup i'm using, except Varric as the rogue instead of Sera/Cole. Haven't really had too many issues.

Although Blackwall the Grey Warden is pretty great tank too.

Bah I meant Black wall instead of Iron Bull. Its confusing having 2 characters with not proper names.

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
Dragons are.... fights for parties of nothing but tanks. I rolled the one in the Hinterlands at level 12 and it was still a 15 minute battle, with only Cassandra still on her feet at the end.

The wing-vortex thing might be avoidable if you can have your archers Hold Position outside of its range, but that's just a theory, as I've never tried it. I went hunting for the other dragon on the Sword Coast, but never could find it.

I *thought* I had an idea of what was what when I went to go close the Breach. I did not. And now I need a training montage.

A party of nothing but tanks means you will hit a dead end on one of the plot missions...

As will taking Dorian, on another.

I'm talking about for specifically dragon-hunting. My typical "roaming the world to pick flowers and stick a knife in some guy's neck" is the standard Holy Trinity, plus Sera because she's hilarious.

Fired up the game last night (PC).

Controls:

Right mouse button to look around and ONLY use the "W" to move and steer with mouse.

The click-fest when attacking and periodically needing to tap the W key to get into range was rather annoying.
I will have to look a little more at toggling targets that may assist this more.

The tactical map, oh this has so much wrong.
WHY use "WASD" to move it around, mouse would do fine.
Why does the cross-hair get stuck on things like trees? It should not be impeded in any way.

Glowing objects REALLY hide that symbol for that right click select like for something non-critical for instance a rift.

The little mouse pointer really gets lost in the fights.
I have to wave it around like a drunk person to spot it again.

Summary: Not ideal, but it functions and it is not getting too much in my way yet.

Notes:

I have read that some 20 hours of various fetch and carry missions will need to be enjoyed/endured before the "true gem" this game is will be revealed: I have a ways to go.

I think a little messing with the behaviors of your companions is important: you do not want elf to drink the last potion (thinking of gauntlet... "elf shot the food!") since you all share.

The super shiny hair is REALLY distracting.
It is like everyone lathered up some brill-cream, shellacked their hair or are really, really greasy (ew!).
This needs a patch... I went for stubble head/face to avoid it.

The collecting lots of stuff really promotes avoiding the primary objective marker on the map like the plague.
All the good stuff I would have missed if I hurried as they falsely tell me to do...

I have had many strange video and audio glitches, I assume I may be pushing my system a bit so I will try to throttle down in areas not noticeable.

So-far the acting is leaving me a bit flat at this moment.
The dwarf with his shirt open almost to his navel is rather distracting.
My elf friend is nice enough but the bald head is a real disservice to him (but less shine!).
The "I am mean and tuff but tender on the inside" female companion is initially feeling like a missed opportunity.
I hope this character finds her stride since she seems to have the most potential.

My own character no matter the choice in dialogue appears very much a stunned bunny for our initial romp.

I loved both Dragonage games and fully expect to for this one.
If my attacks get obscured by another tree however, I may need to have a "time-out" so I do not do harm to my mouse.

I think a little messing with the behaviors of your companions is important: you do not want elf to drink the last potion (thinking of gauntlet... "elf shot the food!") since you all share.

The default is to reserve the last 2 potions for the active character, iirc.

The dwarf with his shirt open almost to his navel is rather distracting.

That's Varric. That's just how he rolls.

The "I am mean and tuff but tender on the inside" female companion is initially feeling like a missed opportunity.

She isn't, really.

I'm a Warripr with shield, and always bring Blackwall. He's my tank, and also an all-round boss.