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jasper76 wrote: Fair enough. I was rebutting the incorrect assertion that 60s era Republicans had an attitude of just "You're free now, do what you want".
What I meant by that is the general Republican approach nowadays to race issues is to shrug and walk away.
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jasper76 wrote: Fair enough. I was rebutting the incorrect assertion that 60s era Republicans had an attitude of just "You're free now, do what you want".
What I meant by that is the general Republican approach nowadays to race issues is to shrug and walk away.
As opposed to the Democrat approach of fanning the flames and talking about imaginary sons?
Verviedi wrote: I support this compromise. No salting the skin off of babies, or shredding their bodies in vacuums in return for not killing criminals.
None of these things are happening to babies.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
20 Is kind of funny because last I check that is actually happening. You have companies were laying off men more then women because the men were paid more.
I was just engaging in a little negotiation here.. you get one thing you really want, and I get one what I want.
I support this compromise. No salting the skin off of babies, or shredding their bodies in vacuums in return for not killing criminals.
Nice deal. Can we extends it to animals too?
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Verviedi wrote: I support this compromise. No salting the skin off of babies, or shredding their bodies in vacuums in return for not killing criminals.
Then your very pragmatic? I don't know. These are two very complex issues that people will have different views on for different reasons. I am pro choice, but anti abortion. Pro death penalty, but I don't want to see it used.
Then your very pragmatic? I don't know. These are two very complex issues that people will have different views on for different reasons. I am pro choice, but anti abortion. Pro death penalty, but I don't want to see it used.
Wait wut.
He possibly means that he doesn't like the idea of abortion, but accepts that it is ultimately not his choice to make.
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Then your very pragmatic? I don't know. These are two very complex issues that people will have different views on for different reasons. I am pro choice, but anti abortion. Pro death penalty, but I don't want to see it used.
Pragmatic huh? That sounds better than be fahked in the as I was called by someone in my ethics class.
Then your very pragmatic? I don't know. These are two very complex issues that people will have different views on for different reasons. I am pro choice, but anti abortion. Pro death penalty, but I don't want to see it used.
Wait wut.
I believe abortion is wrong and in the majority of cases should be avoided, but I don't think a law or ban on it is the way to go. A law is inflexible and it can take the choice away from the people who should be making it themselves. I belive It really should be the choice of the parents. I don't want them to choose abortion unless they have to, but I they would know the situation better then I would.
Then your very pragmatic? I don't know. These are two very complex issues that people will have different views on for different reasons. I am pro choice, but anti abortion. Pro death penalty, but I don't want to see it used.
Wait wut.
He possibly means that he doesn't like the idea of abortion, but accepts that it is ultimately not his choice to make.
Ya you explained it better then I did.
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Verviedi wrote: Depends. Are we capable of growing meat from animal cells yet?
Well, are we capable to growing baby meat? Or adult criminal meat? Tasty taste!
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Verviedi wrote: I support this compromise. No salting the skin off of babies, or shredding their bodies in vacuums in return for not killing criminals.
None of these things are happening to babies.
Feth your semantics.
Good way to argue.....
Completely Disregard your opponents position and telll him its wrong because you said it was wrong.
The point it, up to a certain point, a fetus is nothing more then a clump of cells vaguely resembling a human. It isnt capable of thought, it isnt capable of breathing or living outside its mother.
It is a clump of cells, like a cancer.
Then your very pragmatic? I don't know. These are two very complex issues that people will have different views on for different reasons. I am pro choice, but anti abortion. Pro death penalty, but I don't want to see it used.
Pragmatic huh? That sounds better than be fahked in the as I was called by someone in my ethics class.
Oh I actually liked my ethics class because it gave me a good argument to use to talk about abortion. The Violinist. (My book had a chello player as the example.)
You wake up in the morning and find yourself back to back in bed with an unconscious violinist. A famous unconscious violinist. He has been found to have a fatal kidney ailment, and the Society of Music Lovers has canvassed all the available medical records and found that you alone have the right blood type to help. They have therefore kidnapped you, and last night the violinist's circulatory system was plugged into yours, so that your kidneys can be used to extract poisons from his blood as well as your own. [If he is unplugged from you now, he will die; but in nine months he will have recovered from his ailment, and can safely be unplugged from you.
It's a different framing that avoids a lot of arguments about at what month, day second a cell becomes a person.
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Verviedi wrote: I support this compromise. No salting the skin off of babies, or shredding their bodies in vacuums in return for not killing criminals.
None of these things are happening to babies.
Feth your semantics.
Good way to argue..... Completely Disregard your opponents position and telll him its wrong because you said it was wrong. The point it, up to a certain point, a fetus is nothing more then a clump of cells vaguely resembling a human. It isnt capable of thought, it isnt capable of breathing or living outside its mother. It is a clump of cells, like a cancer.
Here's my take...
If you oppose the death penalty on grounds that we shouldn't kill...
Then you ought to at least be strong pro-life.
Even further, if you opposed the death penalty because our society is imperfect, and thus an innocent man may potentially erroneously be killed...
Verviedi wrote: I support this compromise. No salting the skin off of babies, or shredding their bodies in vacuums in return for not killing criminals.
None of these things are happening to babies.
Feth your semantics.
Good way to argue.....
Completely Disregard your opponents position and telll him its wrong because you said it was wrong.
The point it, up to a certain point, a fetus is nothing more then a clump of cells vaguely resembling a human. It isnt capable of thought, it isnt capable of breathing or living outside its mother.
It is a clump of cells, like a cancer.
Here's my take...
If you oppose the death penalty on grounds that we shouldn't kill...
Then you ought to at least be strong pro-life.
Even further, if you opposed the death penalty because our society is imperfect, and thus an innocent man may potentially erroneously be killed...
Here is my take, he killed what was viable and capable of thought and what was able to live outside the room. He is the type of person that gets good, ethical abortion doctors firebombed.
Oh yeah, I forgot about those "Pro-lifers" the firebomb and kill abortion doctors
Verviedi wrote: I support this compromise. No salting the skin off of babies, or shredding their bodies in vacuums in return for not killing criminals.
None of these things are happening to babies.
Feth your semantics.
Good way to argue.....
Completely Disregard your opponents position and telll him its wrong because you said it was wrong.
The point it, up to a certain point, a fetus is nothing more then a clump of cells vaguely resembling a human. It isnt capable of thought, it isnt capable of breathing or living outside its mother.
It is a clump of cells, like a cancer.
Here's my take...
If you oppose the death penalty on grounds that we shouldn't kill...
Then you ought to at least be strong pro-life.
Even further, if you opposed the death penalty because our society is imperfect, and thus an innocent man may potentially erroneously be killed...
Here is my take, he killed what was viable and capable of thought and what was able to live outside the room. He is the type of person that gets good, ethical abortion doctors firebombed.
Oh yeah, I forgot about those "Pro-lifers" the firebomb and kill abortion doctors
I think you're missing my point: Weren't you opposed to the death penalty?
Verviedi wrote: I support this compromise. No salting the skin off of babies, or shredding their bodies in vacuums in return for not killing criminals.
None of these things are happening to babies.
Feth your semantics.
Good way to argue.....
Completely Disregard your opponents position and telll him its wrong because you said it was wrong.
The point it, up to a certain point, a fetus is nothing more then a clump of cells vaguely resembling a human. It isnt capable of thought, it isnt capable of breathing or living outside its mother.
It is a clump of cells, like a cancer.
Here's my take...
If you oppose the death penalty on grounds that we shouldn't kill...
Then you ought to at least be strong pro-life.
Even further, if you opposed the death penalty because our society is imperfect, and thus an innocent man may potentially erroneously be killed...
You mean the guy who now is serving life in imprison for murder? You should be pro-life because of what some criminal did? I mean come on Whembly you can better than that.
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