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 Azreal13 wrote:

 RunicFIN wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
You mean "fit the criteria" Fit the quota doesn't really make sense.

I don't either, BTW, as I still play, but that doesn't seem to be relevant?

Oh @Blacksails, don't forget Explosive Diarrhoea on Binky the Donkey!

I wonder what kind of a person one needs to be to actually continously point out spelling mistakes to someone who isn´t a native English speaker. Humour me anyways, speak some Finnish.

Theres a world of difference between misspelling a word and using the wrong word entirely, especially when that word, if not exactly a logical choice, could work in the context it was used.

My Finnish is lousy, which is why I don't hang out in Finnish speaking message boards.

The phrase you are looking for is "malapropism"

Who had the dubious honour of being Explosive Diarrhea?

I gotta admit, I'm a little bummed I apparently am not enough of a hater to be one of the four horsemen.

 Blacksails wrote:
Who had the dubious honour of being Explosive Diarrhea?

I gotta admit, I'm a little bummed I apparently am not enough of a hater to be one of the four horsemen.

To paraphrase Reg:

"If you want to be a member of the PFJ Four Horsemen of the GWpocalypse, you have to really hate the Romans GW HHobby"

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
Who had the dubious honour of being Explosive Diarrhea?

I gotta admit, I'm a little bummed I apparently am not enough of a hater to be one of the four horsemen.

To paraphrase Reg:

"If you want to be a member of the PFJ Four Horsemen of the GWpocalypse, you have to really hate the Romans the GW HHobby"

Must've no got that memo then. As I don't "hate" anything.

 Blacksails wrote:
Who had the dubious honour of being Explosive Diarrhea?

I gotta admit, I'm a little bummed I apparently am not enough of a hater to be one of the four horsemen.

No no, hating GW or WH40K isn´t a requirement at all. I can appoint you as Azreals horse on which he rides to battle around the fields of DakkaDakka, if you wish to be a part of the Four Horsemen. Maybe you can overthrow him in the future, literally.

Can I be the horseman of "Guys he's pulling you off topic again in yet another predictable attempt to get the thread locked?"

Wow this is super off topic guys.

It might get closed if everyone doesn't tone it down

 Grimtuff wrote:

Must've no got that memo then. As I don't "hate" anything.

Oh come now. You don't hate those donkey-caves who try to merge at the last second after having blasted up the empty merging lane?

Makes my blood boil just thinking about.


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SilverDevilfish wrote:Can I be the horseman of "Guys he's pulling you off topic again in yet another predictable attempt to get the thread locked?"

FacelessMage wrote:Wow this is super off topic guys.

It might get closed if everyone doesn't tone it down

Yes, sorry about that.

 SilverDevilfish wrote:
Can I be the horseman of "Guys he's pulling you off topic again in yet another predictable attempt to get the thread locked?"

Yeah, its just me messaging myself, nobody else is partaking. Next to that I have no such intention, sorry to disappoint you. The threads point is mostly just the poll anyway, the voters basically tell their stand in the choices already.

 Blacksails wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

Must've no got that memo then. As I don't "hate" anything.

Oh come now. You don't hate those donkey-caves who try to merge at the last second after having blasted up the empty merging lane?

Makes my blood boil just thinking about.

Oh I meant GW related...

My list of things that grind my gears would make Martin Luther look tame.

 Blacksails wrote:
Who had the dubious honour of being Explosive Diarrhea?

That was Talizvar, who only reckoned himself a minor horseman.

But I got it wrong, his donkey's called Timmy.

 Grimtuff wrote:
The phrase you are looking for is "malapropism"

Ah! "malphemism"!(yikes! example on link for mature only!) Where backside output ports can speak their minds without being edited!

 SilverDevilfish wrote:
Can I be the horseman of "Guys he's pulling you off topic again in yet another predictable attempt to get the thread locked?"

This.

If the lich kings horses name was invincible, them how come you could see it?

I haven't quite quit, but 40k is pretty much by request only for me.

The current edition of the game is godawful. Balance is out the window, any semblance of organization is right behind it, giant robots are everywhere and randumb rules the roost.

GW's pricing and business practices are similarly terrible. $50 for a Codex with less content and a $50 supplement and multiple DLC items to buy it back is unacceptable.

X-Wing and Malifaux are the gamse I play now. They're much easier on the wallet, run by companies that seem to care more about creating a quality product, and are very well balanced games with tons of variety.

I still love the 40k universe, working on my backlog of unassembled models, and playing with my friends. But until things change, I'm not buying 40k stuff or playing much at all.

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:
If the lich kings horses name was invincible, them how come you could see it?

No. Bad. This isn't Trade Chat, we don't need this level of trolling (and that's exactly what it is, whether joking or not).

Perfect example of things. I jokingly told my brother I was going to get us Shield of Baal: Deathstorm for Christmas and I was going to give him the Tyranids as he used to play them in 2nd edition. His response was "Hell no". I asked why, it would only take like another $200 to get a nice Tyranid army (buying the Hive Mind boxed army they have). Keep in mind he has a small but decent Legion of Everblight army for Hordes (although I bought him some of it), and besides I asked him didn't he like Tyranids.

His answer was that yes, he likes Tyranids but he's not going to play a game where he can play the units he wants and lose because they're bad if he comes against someone who just cheeses out their army and picks the better units, and worse if the units they like/are fluffy are better than his just because reasons.

And I agree with that. Who wants to spend money on things they think are cool, fit their fluff for the army or anything else from a casual/narrative perspective and get curb stomped if you play someone whose fluffy units are better (e.g. Wave Serpents) or who goes all out competitive with their force? Why would he ever do that when he can play Hordes, pay less (although this is mostly due to playing beast-heavy Legion) and in most circumstances pick units he likes and still have a good chance of winning a game if he uses strategy?

He will basically never touch a GW game again because of that, nevermind the fact that I didn't even tell him that he'd have to buy a few codex supplements besides the main Codex (which I wasn't even factoring in).

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
Who had the dubious honour of being Explosive Diarrhea?

That was Talizvar, who only reckoned himself a minor horseman.
But I got it wrong, his donkey's called Timmy.

Methinks my hypothesis of 40k players or of "former" players is true:
You ARE the reason for quitting the game, first and foremost!
Now I will get on my donkey and ride... with slight breaks in-between.

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 Dalymiddleboro wrote:
If the lich kings horses name was invincible, them how come you could see it?

You did look up what a "malapropism" was right? As this is a perfect example of one.

 RunicFIN wrote:

Spoiler:

http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/art-en-646ccfbd85f40d084c8199081b62acf5.html

http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/website-en-e7feca13b066998c9d2388ea62af1d68.html

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Sorry, I'm too post modern and superior to browse Dakka on anything that runs Flash.

There's a topic here everyone - stick to it please.

I stopped playing 40k after they completely changed the game concept and scope from a deep and characterful ,(if over complicated ) skirmish game .
With lots of ..'self parody, and over the top silly but awesome fun..' we all seemed to enjoy .

To the bland battle game of 'Grim Dark for kiddies'Which was still over complicated.And in following editions they have just added more and more layers of complication to attract GWs target demographic.(Children and collectors.)

When 40k went to be all about 'selling toy soldiers to children', I was so glad I left GW behind after they dropped the SGs.

My friends and I still play games of 40k, but we use our own rules we converted from other games.

GW seem to be targeting collectors and people who dont think the rules are all that important, but who are wiling to pay an absolute fortune for rules that they have to fix them selves.
No wonder their GW volumes are shrinking at a ever faster rate!

Seventh Edition.
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I was kinda on my way out already, but it was 7th that gave me the final push. I just didn’t purchase the “upgrade.” Everyone else at the store made the transition. If we were still in 6th edition I would probably still be playing, but focused on the Highlander (or other crazy- limiting) format. I’d play 5th edition today if I could.

The things that were driving me to seriously consider quitting were things that I thought made the game objectively worse: flyers, allies, giant models (riptide, wraithknight, Knight et al) and the further fracturing of rules across so many sources (Tyranid codex in four parts).

I still like the idea of 40K. I like the models, most of the fluff and setting. I’m hanging around to see if GW decides to focus on making the game better as opposed to shredding the game in order to push as much product as possible.

I mean I always knew that the needs of the game were subordinate to the needs to the company to have steady revenue and so we would always have issues with out of date codices and rules that didn’t quite work as intended. But last year when they turned it up to 11 and started cranking out dataslates and slicing the codices up simply to try to prop up a sagging bottom line they made it abundantly clear that they don’t care about the health of the game at all. All that matters is moving product.

I keep hoping that they’ll adopt a Field of Dreams “If you build it, they will come” approach wherein they focus on making the game better and growing the playerbase again. But given all the changes we’ve seen over the last 2 ½ years, I don’t know how they can over go back without alienating even more people.

 Arschbombe wrote:
Seventh Edition.
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Hmmm....a relevant sub-topic would be how many people has 7th pushed away?

 MWHistorian wrote:

 Arschbombe wrote:
Seventh Edition.
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Hmmm....a relevant sub-topic would be how many people has 7th pushed away?

It should be how many people have left or come back because of 7th. For every post of someone saying that 7th was the final straw, I see one who says that 7th had brought them back and is an improvement over 6th. Personally, I get the impression that most of the people who left at the start of 7th were already on the fence about leaving anyways. It probably didn't help that a lot of the internet started wish listing and talking about how 7th needed to fix every problem 40k has ever had or else it was all over.

 MWHistorian wrote:

Hmmm....a relevant sub-topic would be how many people has 7th pushed away?

Is it worth making the distinction between people who actively dislike the changes in 7th edition and people like me who soured on 6th and simply didn't make the switch when 7th appeared? I think are a lot of people who dropped out in 6th and then came back for 7th.

Well, the next financial report will give us a good idea if 7th was good enough to pull them back out of last year's revenue drop.

 Blacksails wrote:
Well, the next financial report will give us a good idea if 7th was good enough to pull them back out of last year's revenue drop.

IMO it won't be the next one that shows the real situation, since there will be a spike of sales from the 7th edition rulebook. Even people who don't buy much else will buy a new core rulebook so they can keep playing, and I bet a lot of people bought the rules and didn't quit until realizing how bad 7th was. I think the report after the next one is going to be the real test: can GW survive on "normal" sales, or have they lost so many customers that any year that doesn't include a new edition is a failure? Plus there's the WHFB issue, where the "end times" books seem to be popular and might offset some of the weakness in 40k.

True. Weren't the pre orders for 7th on the last year's report? If they were, and factoring in how front loaded their sales are, we could assume that 7th alone may not save them.

I think the biggest seller so far will be BA, being a marine release and all. That and the End Times as you mentioned. There are now rumours 40k could be getting its own End Times, so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw that prior to the end year report. Though didn't we have Knights this time last year?

I'm curious either way. I admit that I'm not hopeful this half year has done anything special for them, but I'll happily be proven wrong.

I think so, 7th released the last weekend that was eligible for that accounting period IIRC, it was discussed pretty widely at the time as a possible sign of how badly GW were casting about to save their year.