Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)

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**unfassbarnathan**

MoonlightSonata wrote:

That is definitely a new Lord model. The legs (one bent standing on something), the scythe, the res orb, the head and whatever is behind the head all look new/different, so this is either new or a very heavy conversion. My money is on a clampack.

**Kangodo**

I hope so, GW certainly knows how to get my money.
For some reason I need to have every single different Lord-model.

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/bigal1/Images/NecronLE1.jpg
This is still my favourite, it was in a collection of €50, only after this I found out the Lord itself goes for 50 on eBay

**CthuluIsSpy**

rtb01 wrote:
Sir Arun wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Anpu-adom wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:
I am not a fan of it looking like the hull ribbing on the Arcs personally. I'd much rather it be a blade, of course that god awful shade of orange isn't helping me sort out what it actually could be.

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I just noticed that lord has a praetorian backpack. Maybe Neconrs lords will be able to take jump packs and destroyers/lords will become jetbikes again.

That would go a bit of the way in making praetorians usable.

Not sure how that makes Praetorians useful. Destroyer Lords didn't make them useful; why would a regular Overlord do so?

Because a regular overlord can take Sempiternal Weave, Phase shifter and thus soak craptons of fire while getting them into cc

So can the destroyer lord, where's the argument?... Unless rules and points are changed praetorians are worse than useless. It'd be like tanking for people with no arms or legs to get into combat, utterly pointless

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Sir Arun wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Anpu-adom wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:
I am not a fan of it looking like the hull ribbing on the Arcs personally. I'd much rather it be a blade, of course that god awful shade of orange isn't helping me sort out what it actually could be.

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I just noticed that lord has a praetorian backpack. Maybe Neconrs lords will be able to take jump packs and destroyers/lords will become jetbikes again.

That would go a bit of the way in making praetorians usable.

Not sure how that makes Praetorians useful. Destroyer Lords didn't make them useful; why would a regular Overlord do so?

Because a regular overlord can take Sempiternal Weave, Phase shifter and thus soak craptons of fire while getting them into cc

So can the destroyer lord, where's the argument?... Unless rules and points are changed praetorians are worse than useless. It'd be like tanking for people with no arms or legs to get into combat, utterly pointless

Destroyer Lords cannot take phase shifters.

**manrogue**

New BoLS one-

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/12/necrons-conventional-rumor-wisdom.html
This Necron Rumor season has been all over the place, but at last it's starting to gel. Here's today's news:

The latest word on the Necrons:

Short-term Stuff
Necrons - January 2015

Minis:
-Clampack Necron Lord
-Clampack Cryptek

Codex is described at "thick, almost Space Marine sized". Look for it to include lots of fluff, as well as many Lords of War & Formations (possibly some of the Apoc ones.)

Medium-term Stuff

Later in 2015, Necrons will star in a Campaign Book, alongside 3 additional kits (both reworks, and new kits)

These Rumors are rated RELIABLE, coming from known good sources.

The most interesting thing of this bunch to me is the word of a Necron Campaign book coming later in 2015 with 3 new kits attached. It would appear that the success of Stormclaw, Shield of Baal, and the WFB End Times series is moving Games Workshop in a new direction. It looks like we can from now on expect to see a "two-track" parallel releases of the traditional army codices with accompanying supplemental codices (and some minis), with a second track of these "X vs Y" campaigns that include book sets with integrated new rules and minis as well.

**skoffs**

Codex is described at "thick, almost Space Marine sized".

Doubt: Conflicts with Lords Of Wargaming info (minimal Gray Knights-esque update).

**angelofvengeance**

I'll take anything from BoLS as salty unless proved otherwise lol.

**ORicK**

I am glad a new codex is coming.
It's about time the skyfull of barges and croissants are replaced by Necron armies having a bit more actual necron infantry.
I also look forward to buying a few extra barges and scythes from people that stop playing that specific type of "tactic" hahaha...

And because i like playing my Necron as predominantly infantr (and i have more than enough TROOPs), i do love the formation :-)

**angelofvengeance**

TBH, I generally go quite infantry heavy for my Necrons, drowning my enemies in a tide of metal, gauss flaying doom.

While mind bogglingly boring to paint, having 40 Necron Warriors marching across the battlefield is really quite awesome!

**Nadir**

angelofvengeance wrote:
I'll take anything from BoLS as salty unless proved otherwise lol.

Totally agree. BoLS, Faeit 212 and Spikeybits are more likely weather forecasters than actual fact-based news portal.

**Sasori**

skoffs wrote:
Codex is described at "thick, almost Space Marine sized".
Doubt: Conflicts with Lords Of Wargaming info (minimal Gray Knights-esque update).

I dunno, that seems to agree with LoW if you ask me. They mentioned the "Dynastic Tactics" so that is sure to have more pages. If we include the 3 Lords of War, and any additonal fluff/formations I could see the codex getting better.

I imagine the Grey Knights update has more to do with minimal models.

**Sir Arun**

I just find the whole dynastic tactics thing hard to believe. I rather think that one leaked image is the only formation we're gonna get like in every other recent codex.

Most wargamers, hell even most Necron players do not identify with any particular dynasty. Except a few who for example like to stick with Imotek's dynasty so it makes more sense they're fielding the stormlord.

**Anpu-adom**

Sasori wrote:
skoffs wrote:
Codex is described at "thick, almost Space Marine sized".
Doubt: Conflicts with Lords Of Wargaming info (minimal Gray Knights-esque update).

I dunno, that seems to agree with LoW if you ask me. They mentioned the "Dynastic Tactics" so that is sure to have more pages. If we include the 3 Lords of War, and any additonal fluff/formations I could see the codex getting better.

I imagine the Grey Knights update has more to do with minimal models.

Or it could be minimum rules changes. Grey Knights had a few drops of unique rules and a few changes as to which USR's units got but that was about it.
I've long doubted Dynasty Tactics, especially in the age of Data-slates. I think that Dynasty Tactics will just be formations, and I'm fine with that. Keep in mind, Mepheit is from SoB: Exterminatus (aside, could they really have picked a worse name? I mean, Sisters aren't using that abbreviation anymore but it is a common abbreviation for something else... (internal aside aside: Why is abbreviation such a long word?)) Meaning that there will be other formations, etc in the codex proper. I'm expecting one that matches the Canoptek Crawlers (3 boxes of wraiths, 2 spyders, and a Triarch Stalker).

**adamsouza**

Let's be honest, no Xeno race is going to get a bigger codex than 40K's flagship army, Space Marines.

Also, in the Space Marine Codex all the different chapters rules fit on one page.

7e is big on Datasheets, so I could see a few pages of Dynasty Datasheets, IF GW was serious about slinging Necron Models, but in no way is that going to lead to a fat codex

**skoffs**

Regardless, it's from BoLS, so I'm filing it under "most likely not true"
(just like their claim that the codex would be out the week of Halloween)

**Red Corsair**

adamsouza wrote:
Let's be honest, no Xeno race is going to get a bigger codex than 40K's flagship army, Space Marines.

Also, in the Space Marine Codex all the different chapters rules fit on one page.

7e is big on Datasheets, so I could see a few pages of Dynasty Datasheets, IF GW was serious about slinging Necron Models, but in no way is that going to lead to a fat codex

It's not a matter of who is the favorite child. Dynasty tactics just sounds weird if you ask me. Necrons don't change tactics between dynasties rather then have alternate availability and organization of units. They are computers, they don't use set tactics rather then constantly run efficiency algorithms. I think detachments and formations are a fine way to do it. Honestly it's not much different either.

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skoffs wrote:
Regardless, it's from BoLS, so I'm filing it under "most likely not true"
(just like their claim that the codex would be out the week of Halloween)

BoL's and Naftka are both just echo chambers for any bit of noise barked in their direction.

**NecronLord3**

unfassbarnathan wrote:
MoonlightSonata wrote:

That is definitely a new Lord model. The legs (one bent standing on something), the scythe, the res orb, the head and whatever is behind the head all look new/different, so this is either new or a very heavy conversion. My money is on a clampack.

There isn't one part of that model that isn't from another necron kit. A bent knee is super easy to do, definently a conversion.

**Ghaz**

Red Corsair wrote:
They are computers, they don't use set tactics rather then constantly run efficiency algorithms.

Sorry, but according to the current background that's not true.

**NecronLord3**

Ghaz wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:
They are computers, they don't use set tactics rather then constantly run efficiency algorithms.

Sorry, but according to the current background that's not true.

Not for Tomb blades.

**Ghaz**

But the higher command does use tactics which would be carried out by units like Tomb Blades. They may not be able to come up with them on their own, but that doesn't mean that they don't use them or that they're all programmed by a computer.

**Furyou Miko**

... they're not computers. I wish that fact would get into peoples heads.The only robots in the Necron army are the Canopteks.

**Warmonger2757**

You wouldn't even need to take warriors with this formation, you could take 8 units of immortals with Guass Blasters and lords with rez orbs. 3+ saves, str 5 shooting, reanimating better than 50% of the time would be pretty damn good for 88 models (80 immortals, 6 necrons lords with rez orbs, 2 necron overlords with rez orbs). Points wise, you're looking at 1360 for the immortals, 390 for lords with rez orbs, and 240 with 2 overlords with rez orbs for 1990 total. Clearly this formation isn't for 1850 point games but it still could be fun.

If GW makes it possible for other units to ride in Ghost Arks like immortals or Lychguard, this codex could be really amazing.

This formation does start to make me wonder what is coming for necrons. Even lords with Jump Packs would be an amazing change.

**Sir Arun**

Warmonger2757 wrote:
You wouldn't even need to take warriors with this formation, you could take 8 units of immortals with Guass Blasters and lords with rez orbs. 3+ saves, str 5 shooting, reanimating better than 50% of the time would be pretty damn good for 88 models (80 immortals, 6 necrons lords with rez orbs, 2 necron overlords with rez orbs). Points wise, you're looking at 1360 for the immortals, 390 for lords with rez orbs, and 240 with 2 overlords with rez orbs for 1990 total. Clearly this formation isn't for 1850 point games but it still could be fun.

If GW makes it possible for other units to ride in Ghost Arks like immortals or Lychguard, this codex could be really amazing.

This formation does start to make me wonder what is coming for necrons. Even lords with Jump Packs would be an amazing change.

how much for those 80 immortals moneywise ?

**Warmonger2757**

Sir Arun wrote:
Warmonger2757 wrote:
You wouldn't even need to take warriors with this formation, you could take 8 units of immortals with Guass Blasters and lords with rez orbs. 3+ saves, str 5 shooting, reanimating better than 50% of the time would be pretty damn good for 88 models (80 immortals, 6 necrons lords with rez orbs, 2 necron overlords with rez orbs). Points wise, you're looking at 1360 for the immortals, 390 for lords with rez orbs, and 240 with 2 overlords with rez orbs for 1990 total. Clearly this formation isn't for 1850 point games but it still could be fun.

If GW makes it possible for other units to ride in Ghost Arks like immortals or Lychguard, this codex could be really amazing.

This formation does start to make me wonder what is coming for necrons. Even lords with Jump Packs would be an amazing change.

how much for those 80 immortals moneywise ?

That's a whole different animal.

But that's how GW makes money, cool formations that have people buying 80 immortals.

**Kangodo**

Hmm, that's a good point. I do have around 40 Immortals!
Perhaps Flayed Ones will become Troops, this would surely boost their chance to get into combat.

**Warmonger2757**

Kangodo wrote:
Hmm, that's a good point. I do have around 40 Immortals!
Perhaps Flayed Ones will become Troops, this would surely boost their chance to get into combat.

That is an interesting point. This formation could have promise, especially if the warlord traits are worth it.

Has anyone been able to figure out what the rules are for the Mephrit formation that is listed in the BA thread? There is a necron formation with 2 units of warriors, 2 units of immortals and a monolith that has some reanimation special rules. I can't make out the picture well enough to see what it says about the rules. I do like seeing new necron formations and detachments though.

**adamsouza**

White Dwarf 47 going to have a White Dwarf Exclusive Necron Datasheet

Mephrit Dynasty Resurgance Decurion

I had to google Decurion. It's evidently the title of a Roman Officer, originally military, then later political.

**Auswin**

Really hard to read that blurry text, but I took it into photoshop and cleaned it up to read what I could.

2 Units of Warriors
2 Units of Immortals
1 Monolith

It seems to be an uber ghost ark repair rule on the monolith. At the end of the movement phase it can bring in up to D6 models to replenish a squad of warriors, or D3 immortals from the detachment, but cannot exceed its starting number.

**Sir Arun**

anyvody else think these "leaks" are GW doing it on purpose? No way in 2014 are cameras purposefully that low-quality.

**undertow**

Sir Arun wrote:
anyvody else think these "leaks" are GW doing it on purpose? No way in 2014 are cameras purposefully that low-quality.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

**Furyou Miko**

Sir Arun wrote:
anyvody else think these "leaks" are GW doing it on purpose? No way in 2014 are cameras purposefully that low-quality.

It's possible, but its far more likely the person taking the photo was doing so instore and didn't want to get caught, and so rushed it with shaking hands.