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What was the point of this argument again? I think it got lost somewhere because I have no idea what either side is arguing for at this point.

The TC isn't big enough? Bigger = stronger now? Couldn't a TC theoretically be any size it wanted to be as it's a being made of pure energy? Why does any of this matter or have anything at all to do with the rumored impending Necron update?

The pic where it fought a bio Titan in the Baal expansion made it look quite small and I think it still kicked the titan's ass

 adamsouza wrote:
Forge the Narrative just posted "leaked" 2015 release schedule.

Someone be a good sport and copy pasta it over here for us

There you go fella-

http://spikeybitsblog.com/2014/12/40k-rumors-2015-release-schedule-leak.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SpikeyBitsFeed+%28Spikey+Bits%29&utm_content=FaceBook
Don’t forget too we’re already hearing about new Eldar Harlequins for a FEBRUARY Release as well.

January 2015

January 3
Last of Holiday Misc…

January 10
Blood Angels army box (Sanguine Strike force, £105), Clampack character, Skaven VerminLord


January 17
End Times Thanquol 2-volume set, Thanquol mini (possibly the “big deal” mini of the Skaven release)

January 24
Stormfiends (armoured rat ogres), Clampack Warlord & Grey Seer

January 31
Codex Necrons, Clampack character, and an army box (possibly scheduled later) – Look for some reboxings of certain sets as well

That's already confirmed to be a week late, as the leaks for this weekends white dwarf shows the vermin lord up for preorder

Thachng wrote:
Would nagash look ok painted up as a necron? I want to use him as the tran ctan

Exalted!

Also, YOINK! *Runs away with great idea in hands, laughing maniacally!"

 Sidstyler wrote:
What was the point of this argument again? I think it got lost somewhere because I have no idea what either side is arguing for at this point.

The TC isn't big enough? Bigger = stronger now? Couldn't a TC theoretically be any size it wanted to be as it's a being made of pure energy? Why does any of this matter or have anything at all to do with the rumored impending Necron update?

Having my son dress up in his Optimus prime Halloween costume and stomp around on the table would be ideal then

Thachng wrote:
The pic where it fought a bio Titan in the Baal expansion made it look quite small and I think it still kicked the titan's ass

Just finished reading the book, and i'm pretty sure the c'tan in there is not listed as transcendant at all, just a normal c'tan shard.

Now with the Necrons being on January 31st, is that when they are going to be released in our hands, or is the pre order?

Would that make the Necron codex a pre order on January 24th?

Yep... pre-order on the 24th. White Dwarf with a closer look at the releases on that day (or the following Monday).

Thanks Anpu-adom.

Hopefully that means some rumors will come soon... I know they're rarely substantial but I enjoy hearing them nonetheless.

Figure if the book is out the end of January, it will be mid January before they start shipping and people start posting shaky camera pics.


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via Nostromodamus on 12-27-2014
There will be a plastic Cryptek along with a new Destroyer Lord. That is all I am aware of for Necrons at this time. Don’t count on too many new units until the ranges are fully converted to plastic.

Also, on GW site, both the lord with res orb and cryptek are both listed as unavailable. This generally hints at what is being possibly removed and replaced. So, I can see plastic clampacks for either or both of an overlord and cryptek. Warriors will be reboxed with new bases, and maybe another unit will too.
I say 50/50 on supplement. Xenos have been getting the supplements, but after exterminatus I'm not sure they would release another one.

Hopefully they'll finally make separate kits for Warriors and Scarabs- it's not as if either of the two is so unpopular that it wouldn't get sold if it wasn't bundled with the other and, aside from being in the same army, they have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

 Galorian wrote:
Hopefully they'll finally make separate kits for Warriors and Scarabs- it's not as if either of the two is so unpopular that it wouldn't get sold if it wasn't bundled with the other and, aside from being in the same army, they have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

Yeah, scarabs aren't even troops anymore. They shouldn't be in the same box.
I kind of hope scarabs no longer take any slots. They are meant to be the most numerous part of a (traditional) necron army, after warriors.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Yeah, scarabs aren't even troops anymore. They shouldn't be in the same box.
I kind of hope scarabs no longer take any slots. They are meant to be the most numerous part of a (traditional) necron army, after warriors.

Scarabs have always been fast attack. They weren't swarms in their first incarnation, but they've always been fast attack.

Slotless wouldn't really make sense unless maybe you can take a free slot of Scarabs for every Spyder unit. I definately wouldn't count on that one though.

changemod wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Yeah, scarabs aren't even troops anymore. They shouldn't be in the same box.
I kind of hope scarabs no longer take any slots. They are meant to be the most numerous part of a (traditional) necron army, after warriors.

Scarabs have always been fast attack. They weren't swarms in their first incarnation, but they've always been fast attack.

Slotless wouldn't really make sense unless maybe you can take a free slot of Scarabs for every Spyder unit. I definately wouldn't count on that one though.

Oh wow I think you are right. No idea why I thought they were troops.
Memory is a bitch.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

changemod wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Yeah, scarabs aren't even troops anymore. They shouldn't be in the same box.
I kind of hope scarabs no longer take any slots. They are meant to be the most numerous part of a (traditional) necron army, after warriors.

Scarabs have always been fast attack. They weren't swarms in their first incarnation, but they've always been fast attack.

Slotless wouldn't really make sense unless maybe you can take a free slot of Scarabs for every Spyder unit. I definately wouldn't count on that one though.

Oh wow I think you are right. No idea why I thought they were troops.
Memory is a bitch.

probably because they only come in warrior boxes

As someone who in the last few months bought fifty scarab bases on ebay with an obsessive desire to keep them four per base to maximise the horde look...

I'd have to say, it'd be just my luck if they brought out a ten scarab base box.

changemod wrote:
As someone who in the last few months bought fifty scarab bases on ebay with an obsessive desire to keep them four per base to maximise the horde look...

I'd have to say, it'd be just my luck if they brought out a ten scarab base box.

GW will for sure release a scarab box now.

changemod wrote:
As someone who in the last few months bought fifty scarab bases on ebay with an obsessive desire to keep them four per base to maximise the horde look...

I'd have to say, it'd be just my luck if they brought out a ten scarab base box.

We thank you for your sacrifice.

I put 3 Scarabs per base, but find that if you build up the base a little you still get the feel of Scarabs swarming over things. I'd love to post pics, but I'm at work and don't have the proper ability. In the meantime, here's a link to my blog showing the first batch of Scarabs I've painted in my current scheme...

http://kriswallminis.blogspot.com/2014/12/necrons-canoptek-scarab-swarms-batch-1.html

I'd be really happy to see a new Scarab box, but I doubt we will. They just aren't very glamorous.

I've looked at the pics of the warriors released with Exterminatus and I'm convinced that it's not a conversion. Things are just a bit too perfect. Being that the arms, guns (minus the front bit) and scarabs are on one sprue while the legs, chest front and back, and heads are on the other. They could release a box with half recut/new sprues (with a suitable price increase).
More likely, they'll recut the warrior sprues... take out some of the empty space on them. Then the'll be able to sell 5 warriors for the price of 12.

 Anpu-adom wrote:
I've looked at the pics of the warriors released with Exterminatus and I'm convinced that it's not a conversion. Things are just a bit too perfect. Being that the arms, guns (minus the front bit) and scarabs are on one sprue while the legs, chest front and back, and heads are on the other. They could release a box with half recut/new sprues (with a suitable price increase).
More likely, they'll recut the warrior sprues... take out some of the empty space on them. Then the'll be able to sell 5 warriors for the price of 12.

I know what you mean about them being pretty darn perfect... but keep in mind that these models are being converted and assembled by the in house GW studio. These are hobbyists who are GOOD at what they do. They get paid to do this 40+ hours a week. If they couldn't make the models look perfect, they shouldn't be working at GW.

I'm inclined to believe that these are conversions. The conversion method was actually in the White Dwarf, which lends a HUGE amount of believability. If it was an entirely new sprue, why not update the rest of the model and not just the little gun bit. It's important to remember that while the arms/guns appear to be on one sprue while the legs appear to be on another, the reality is that it's one big sprue that is "snapped" in half to fit in the box. If they update one bit, they'd be likely to update the rest. One possible option is that the models remain the way they are with the green rods being replaced with a "plastic rods sprue" and that's what we're seeing.

We are essentially getting scarabs for free with warrior boxes and battle forces. Why would you want them to end that and charge us for them ?

Nurglings are $5 a base, and scarabs go for less than that on the secondary market.

Want? No...
Expect us to be Dire Avenger-ed? Always.


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I too do the 3 scarabs per base business. Then I also have some with 2 and 1... I use them as wound counters for the squad. When one base takes damage, I just swap it out for the one that has the appropriate number of scarabs on it.

 adamsouza wrote:
We are essentially getting scarabs for free with warrior boxes and battle forces. Why would you want them to end that and charge us for them ?

Nurglings are $5 a base, and scarabs go for less than that on the secondary market.

Do you have any idea how many warriors I'd have needed to buy if I hadn't stopped to repainting pre-assembled ones?

200.

With my preference for Immortals, I barely have any use for twenty of the things.

If I could have gotten first hand ones alone instead of compromising, I would have.

You can buy warriors 20+% off, keep the scarabs, knock off whatever you feel the scarabs are worth and sell off the warrriors.

Ebay has Scarabs consistently selling for less per base than Nurglings.


MiroArts has it's Mecano Swarm bases for under $4 each

Chinese recasters sell the mecano swarms for $2 each

Scarabs are ridiculously easy to cast, for pennies each.

The ONLY real plus to GW making a new scarab box set would be making the scarab swarms better looking like the nurgling swarms with 12+ scarbas a base

 adamsouza wrote:
We are essentially getting scarabs for free with warrior boxes and battle forces. Why would you want them to end that and charge us for them ?

Nurglings are $5 a base, and scarabs go for less than that on the secondary market.

Nurglings are over $8 a base.

 Kriswall wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:
I've looked at the pics of the warriors released with Exterminatus and I'm convinced that it's not a conversion. Things are just a bit too perfect. Being that the arms, guns (minus the front bit) and scarabs are on one sprue while the legs, chest front and back, and heads are on the other. They could release a box with half recut/new sprues (with a suitable price increase).
More likely, they'll recut the warrior sprues... take out some of the empty space on them. Then the'll be able to sell 5 warriors for the price of 12.

I know what you mean about them being pretty darn perfect... but keep in mind that these models are being converted and assembled by the in house GW studio. These are hobbyists who are GOOD at what they do. They get paid to do this 40+ hours a week. If they couldn't make the models look perfect, they shouldn't be working at GW.

I'm inclined to believe that these are conversions. The conversion method was actually in the White Dwarf, which lends a HUGE amount of believability. If it was an entirely new sprue, why not update the rest of the model and not just the little gun bit. It's important to remember that while the arms/guns appear to be on one sprue while the legs appear to be on another, the reality is that it's one big sprue that is "snapped" in half to fit in the box. If they update one bit, they'd be likely to update the rest. One possible option is that the models remain the way they are with the green rods being replaced with a "plastic rods sprue" and that's what we're seeing.

All of the " new" necron models seen in Exterminus are in fact conversions. I am familiar with all the parts. The warrior rifles are from the ghost/doomsday ark gauss flyer arrays. The Edge of Eternity's (wielded by Zarathusa the Ineffable) blade is cut from a vehicle control counsel. The other gem-like part of the staff between the blade and shaft, along with the identical piece on the belt buckle is a bit used on a good number of Necron vehicles. The tabard is just cut from an Overlord's cape. The head piece addition is another vehicle bit.

Btw, the c'tan that's fighting the Hierophant in the book is referred to as a shard, even though it's a Transcendent model. The model is without flying stem, having its feet touch the base.