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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 03:40:04
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Gunther wrote:This seems inflexible and geared for large games as each of the groups is 300+ points except for flayed ones or deathmarks.
I suppose the FOC will remain better suited for small games say 1500 or less.
It is interesting that the core group includes tomb blades, lychguard and monoliths but not wraiths, scarabs, ABs.
Looks like the codex plays entirely different than today or we are seeing the on-set of the nerf beating.
Why would anyone need/want to take 3 monoliths under any circumstances? Necronium Lance?
You have to remember, as long as you can bring dedicated transports as normal you can bring a significant portion of most people's base Necron list with the Reclamation Legion. The only thing it's really lacking is the Wraiths and the ABs. As long as DAs *if you want ABs) and Monos have been buffed a little, and TBs a bit too, probably, that should even out. Also depends what extra goodies each formation brings.
I'm excited though. I love new tools to work with. Also looking forward to seeing what these 6 C'tan powers bring. If it's something like Halicnation, but with 6 options instead of 3, it should be pretty balling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 05:52:13
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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Accolade wrote:Show me on the doll where the bad mods touched you.
It's sad that there will (probably) not be any more releases for Necrons with this new codex; they're definitely getting the Grey Knights treatment. Although this release is important in that it marks the complete transition of softcovers into hardcover books, so I'm quite curious what will come next. It shouldn't take that long since this release was fairly minimal in new content.
Are we artfully forgetting, or just outright dismissing Sisters of battle from the list? Just want to know what's cool these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 06:22:07
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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The Sister's codex was updated.
Admittedly, not to hardback but Digital is better then strewn across 2 out of print issues of WD... (and he did only say Softcover to Hardcover, I'd hardly call the old SoB WD 'dex' a proper Softback Codex)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 06:24:41
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Neronoxx wrote: Accolade wrote:Show me on the doll where the bad mods touched you.
It's sad that there will (probably) not be any more releases for Necrons with this new codex; they're definitely getting the Grey Knights treatment. Although this release is important in that it marks the complete transition of softcovers into hardcover books, so I'm quite curious what will come next. It shouldn't take that long since this release was fairly minimal in new content.
Are we artfully forgetting, or just outright dismissing Sisters of battle from the list? Just want to know what's cool these days.
It's cool to dump on Sisters! Gotta keep 'em down!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 06:28:27
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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A thought on the new Necron FOC - could this represent a step in the transition towards a WHFB percentage type system?
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Tau and Space Wolves since 5th Edition. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 07:35:38
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Jefffar wrote:A thought on the new Necron FOC - could this represent a step in the transition towards a WHFB percentage type system?
It feels a lot more like the Epic system than anything WFB styled- Main detachment cards then support and special cards added on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 12:05:45
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Neronoxx wrote: Accolade wrote:Show me on the doll where the bad mods touched you.
It's sad that there will (probably) not be any more releases for Necrons with this new codex; they're definitely getting the Grey Knights treatment. Although this release is important in that it marks the complete transition of softcovers into hardcover books, so I'm quite curious what will come next. It shouldn't take that long since this release was fairly minimal in new content.
Are we artfully forgetting, or just outright dismissing Sisters of battle from the list? Just want to know what's cool these days.
As another poster stated, they got their digital book not all that long ago. I'm not "dissing" sisters, though if people expect radically different things for them than what they've gotten (ie basically nothing), then that's their perogative.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 12:34:27
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Some more pics from White Dwarf
Source: http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot. de/2015/01/rumores-portada- de-la- wd-semanal-52.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 12:42:48
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dang, big wall of new pictures got me excited and it's just the info we already have and a clearer picture of the codex art... Which is actually looking a touch derpy because of the poorly foreshortened arm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 12:48:44
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I felt the same
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 12:49:48
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Warhams-77 wrote:Some more pics from White Dwarf
Source: http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot. de/2015/01/rumores-portada- de-la- wd-semanal-52.html
Cheers, added to first post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 12:50:15
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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I do like that Lord model though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 12:51:11
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Dutiful Citizen Levy
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After a nice, clear, close up pic, i quite like that new lord model now actually...
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"It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 12:52:48
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Been Around the Block
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As long as DAs *if you want ABs) and Monos have been buffed a little, and TBs a bit too, probably, that should even out. Also depends what extra goodies each formation brings.
Anrakyr Royal Decurion - 725 pts min - Reroll reserves / Reroll seize initiative
Mephrit Resurgence Decurion - 500 pts min - Monolith repairs D6 W / D3 Im per turn
Zarutha's Royal Decurion - 1275 pts min - Choose one rule (Crusader, Counter-attack, Fearless, Monster Hunters) and apply to every non-vehicle model
Conclave of The Burning One - 255 pts min - Use toughness of Ctan for crypteks
To me, only the Resurgence Decurion and Conclave-of-The-Burning-One seem valuable considering pts/benefits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 12:55:30
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Am i missing some info besides the last few pictures?
People talking about this has been buffed, that has been nerfed, c''than random?
Where do you get this from?
Have i missed some leaked codex pages?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 12:59:36
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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We already had even that since December... Now he's just painted in the generic colour scheme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:04:30
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Dutiful Citizen Levy
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changemod wrote:
We already had even that since December... Now he's just painted in the generic colour scheme.
How did i miss that!? O_o only seen far away blurry pics :( oh well...
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"It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:05:38
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Waaghboss Grobnub,
Myself, I'm trying to avoid the 'New-Codex-Hangover-itosis" this time around. Symptoms include bellyaching about what seemed to be made worse, and a high fever of what didn't change but should have. Individuals are usually exposed by reading forums unprotected by cynicism. Fortunately, it is rarely fatal to your gaming hobby though the recovery time is often months.
But to answer your questions, obviously it will be difficult to figure out what is really a nerf and what isn't. It'll take a couple of months before we start to see some tournament lists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:13:20
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:27:57
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Obelisk. That's new.
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15k+
3k+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:32:30
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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You mean it's a new unit? It's the closed version of the Vault thingy from apocalypse isn't it? It's new in the codex though which might be what you meant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:35:12
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Freaky Flayed One
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Its the same kit as the Tesseract Vault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:39:38
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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White Dwarf wrote:
Codex: Necrons introduces the Decurion Detachment, you'll probably use it once or twice and then forget it exists.
Also... multiple Super Heavies/Gargantuan Creatures (assuming Trans/Obelisk/Vault keep their unit types) for what seems like less points investment than taking multiple CADs.
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My win rate while having my arms and legs tied behind by back while blindfolded and stuffed in a safe that is submerged underwater:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:46:20
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Shame the rumours were accurate about this restrictive marketing gimmick.
Needs a few key fixes:
-Change tomb blades to 0-3 instead of 1-3. The only reason to have mandatory Jetbikes is to force sales of Jetbikes.
-If you've taken a Royal Court, you should be able to not take an Overlord in your core formation. This also goes for the main FOC if you're allowed to take these formations independently, as being taxed an entire Overlord to get access to multiple Crypteks is absolutely absurd.
-Deathbringer Flight and Destroyer Cult have unnecessarily large minimums.
And of course, you have a 5 troops tax if you want to take supplementary forces.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:51:35
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Inspiring Icon Bearer
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That's cool. Now you don't even have to take a Lord of War to run the incredibly OP Transcendant C'Tan.
It's just an 'auxiliary' detachment.
Unless they account for that and it somehow still takes up a LoW slot, that's just going to be stupid.
'Want a game?'
'Sure, but no LoWs'
'No problem!' (Places Transcendant C'Tan)
'Yeah, on second thought, I'm good...'
Or am I missing something? Is it gonna take a nerf bat to the face?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:55:54
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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All I can say is I'd damn well better be able to do the following:
-Take a Royal Court formation along with a regular combined arms detachment,
-Take a Cryptek as my mandatory HQ choice.
Otherwise I'm going to have to go nigh-constantly unbound just to get my Overlord's subordinates into my army without taking a two Overlord tax.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:56:31
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Irked Necron Immortal
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My body is ready
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Morat Noob
New Sylvans eventually
10k+
30k
Snowy bases for the snow god!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:56:57
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I kinda like the idea but at unless the codex got a massive rebalance overhaul (which isn't hugely likely) I think the execution isn't going to be excellent.
That said as long as you can still use a CAD and the Mephrit Dynasty Detachment this is just another way of building an army.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 14:05:39
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hulksmash wrote:I kinda like the idea but at unless the codex got a massive rebalance overhaul (which isn't hugely likely) I think the execution isn't going to be excellent.
That said as long as you can still use a CAD and the Mephrit Dynasty Detachment this is just another way of building an army.
The big issue is the Royal court, which provides a lot of the Army's personality if you want to not run it as a faceless horde.
Unless they did a Daemons style thing where you can take multiple Crypteks for one HQ slot, I guess?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 14:05:52
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Dakka Veteran
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The important question is whether you can continue to use a CAD or not.
Edit: or if you can use it, but you're giving up so many benefits it's a redundant option.
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