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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 16:46:44
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Looks like it's time to convert an Overlord with a Warsythe and Dispersion Shield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 16:47:49
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Numberless Necron Warrior
Bremen
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Destroyer lords can take wargear from most sections if not all
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 16:49:20
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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Well, all of the Necron special gear from the previous codex got gutted.
One use only. Because so many of them were OP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 16:50:33
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Numberless Necron Warrior
Bremen
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RivenSkull wrote:
Well, all of the Necron special gear from the previous codex got gutted.
One use only. Because so many of them were OP
That simply isn't tue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 16:51:24
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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RivenSkull wrote: Well, all of the Necron special gear from the previous codex got gutted. One use only. Because so many of them were OP Or overly complicated. Or just plain annoying
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 16:55:14
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Now I have to get more Lychguard boxes to put Dispersion Shields on everything. I think I'll just magnetize it to arms/backs of characters I've already put together, no reason to make new ones.
More Characters:
Orikan the Diviner (120 points)
WS4 BS4 S4 T4 W2 I2 A2 Ld10 Sv.4+
(Orikan Empowered) WS5 BS5 S7 T7 W4 I4 A4 Ld10 Sv.4+
Phase Shifter, Staff of Tomorrow: S:User, AP2, Melee, Chronoblade (re-roll to hit rolls in assault)
Master Chronomancer: Model and all models in same unti get +1 to RP rolls, and re-roll armour saves of 1
The Stars are Right: Roll D6 at start of each friendly turn. If result is less than current turn number, Orikan uses his Empowered profile for rest of game. If he suffers a wound before becoming empowered, he has 3 wounds instead of 4 when empowered.
(For Anrakyr, see earlier in the thread)
Trazyn the Infinite (130 points)
WS5 BS5 S5 T5 W3 I2 A3 Ld10 Sv.3+
Empathic Obliteration: S+2, AP4, Melee, Concussive, Psionic Shockwave: if a character is slain in a challenge by this weapon, all models within 6" of the character with the same faction (friend or foe) suffers a S4, AP- hit.
IC, RP, Enduring Will Trait
Surrogate Hosts: If Trazyn is removed as a casualty, roll a D6. On a 2+, choose another friendly, non unique Cron infantry character to be removed instead. Trazyn takes its place with D3 wounds remaining. If it was locked in assault, Teazyn is as well. If there are no available targets or a 1 is rolled, Trazyn is removed as a casualty.
Imotekh the Stormlord (190 points, LORD OF WAR)
WS5 BS5 S5 T5 W3 I2 A3 Ld10 Sv.2+
Gauntlet of Fire, Phase Shifter, Staff of the Destroyer: 18", S6 AP2, Assault 3
IC, RP, It will not die, Hyperlogical Strategist trait
Lord of the Swarm: Night fighting is always in effect during first game turn. Once per game, at start of friendly shooting phase, roll a D6 for each enemy unit within 48" of Imootekh. On a 5+, that unit suffers D6 Strength 6 AP- hits, randomly allocated.
Bloodswarm Nanoscarabs: Flayed Ones can re-roll scatter dice when deep striking
And them's the characters!
Read more: http://thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/48760/new-necrons-codex?page=9&scrollTo=834737#ixzz3Q2dCykfM
Orikan straight buffed, though the Writhing Worldscape cheese is gone. Oh well, pretty good overall.
TRAYZN HUGE BUFF. Can come back onto ANY Necron Infantry with D3 wounds is MASSIVE. Empathic Obliterator is huge too, now it is just anything with the same FACTION. Damn.
Imotkeh's Staff of the Destroyer is MUCH better now (the one use thing was butts before and you know it), has IWND base, Lord of the Storm is actually buffed quite a frelling bit, and Bloodswarm Nanoscarabs + new Flayed Ones is quite good!
Special Characters in this edition are looking great in my opinion! Other than Anrakyr and Obyron, I can find a use for all of them!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 16:55:27
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Freaky Flayed One
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D Lords - Still WS 4 BS 4 unlike the the Overlords, Jet pack infinity & come with a Staff of Light for 10 points less.
Boo
Edit - But it seems they can get a ++3 so not all is lost apart from his place with the Wraiths. Maybe having him babysit a big brick of Warrior to give them PE.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 16:58:08
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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Nerfed into the bin? lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:00:10
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Trayzn can only come back on "friendly, non-unique, necron infantry character". Which is Ovelords, Crypteks and Lords right? Not a huge buff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:00:20
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Requizen wrote:
TRAYZN HUGE BUFF. Can come back onto ANY Necron Infantry with D3 wounds is MASSIVE. Empathic Obliterator is huge too, now it is just anything with the same FACTION. Damn.
character.
Trollzian will be taking place of your nearest ........ wait what characters do necrons even have besides the HQ slot?
I kinda liked him for being able to remove whole units of conscripts though
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:00:53
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Numberless Necron Warrior
Bremen
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Nakor The BlueRider wrote:D Lords got nerfed into the bin. Still WS 4 BS 4 unlike the the Overlords, Jet pack infinity & come with a Staff of Light for 10 points less.
Boo
Not at all! You can give them a chronometron and a phase shifter - heck give him a dispersion shield 3++ I guess...and I think relics too! Have you read thate nightbringer weapon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:02:21
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Melcavuk wrote:Trayzn can only come back on "friendly, non-unique, necron infantry character". Which is Ovelords, Crypteks and Lords right? Not a huge buff.
Desubot wrote:Requizen wrote:
TRAYZN HUGE BUFF. Can come back onto ANY Necron Infantry with D3 wounds is MASSIVE. Empathic Obliterator is huge too, now it is just anything with the same FACTION. Damn.
character.
Trollzian will be taking place of your nearest ........ wait what characters do necrons even have besides the HQ slot?
I kinda liked him for being able to remove whole units of conscripts though
Ah gak, got excited and missed that. Yeah, less good then. Dammit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:03:38
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Numberless Necron Warrior
Bremen
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D-Lords will be murderous, but harder to get into combat ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:05:00
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Warrior with Repeater Crossbow
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Requizen wrote:Melcavuk wrote:Trayzn can only come back on "friendly, non-unique, necron infantry character". Which is Ovelords, Crypteks and Lords right? Not a huge buff.
Desubot wrote:Requizen wrote:
TRAYZN HUGE BUFF. Can come back onto ANY Necron Infantry with D3 wounds is MASSIVE. Empathic Obliterator is huge too, now it is just anything with the same FACTION. Damn.
character.
Trollzian will be taking place of your nearest ........ wait what characters do necrons even have besides the HQ slot?
I kinda liked him for being able to remove whole units of conscripts though
Ah gak, got excited and missed that. Yeah, less good then. Dammit.
more like completely nerfed. his empathic obliterator when a character is slain in a challenge. so you've gotta actually survive the challenge first, then get your 6" bubble of death. meh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:06:17
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So the bargeLord cannot join units since IC is not on the profile.
But . . . it looks like you can buy the bargeLord a Dispersion shield and the chariot model (rider and chariot) gets a 3++.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:07:32
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Freaky Flayed One
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Henker-Kind wrote: Nakor The BlueRider wrote:D Lords got nerfed into the bin. Still WS 4 BS 4 unlike the the Overlords, Jet pack infinity & come with a Staff of Light for 10 points less.
Boo
Not at all! You can give them a chronometron and a phase shifter - heck give him a dispersion shield 3++ I guess...and I think relics too! Have you read thate nightbringer weapon?
Ha yeah the nerd rage blinded me to that fact. So its is possible to give a +2/++3 for how many points we shall have to wait. The lost of the movement is huge tho, imho & it would of been nice for it to see the same stat increase.
Maybe we shall see that a D.lord with Lychguards jumping out of the Ghost Arc is the new hotness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:08:15
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Warrior with Repeater Crossbow
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col_impact wrote:So the bargeLord cannot join units since IC is not on the profile.
But . . . it looks like you can buy the bargeLord a Dispersion shield and the chariot model (rider and chariot) gets a 3++.
lol and the shenanigans begin again. not that i'm complaining
i'm more interested in how to get the nebuloscope to work with other weapons since it is a piece of technoarcana, and the unit descriptions specifically say OLs, crypteks etc may take items from technoarcana.
fabricator claw arrays are also technoarcana. self repairing command barges anyone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:08:18
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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I don't see anything here saying that Crypteks and Lords are multiple per slot or don't use a slot. So outside of formations, we're stuck with an Overlord and a single Cryptek. Sigh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:08:52
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Numberless Necron Warrior
Bremen
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Against knights or in combat: void reaper??
armourbane, fleshbane strength+2, master crafted, two handed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:09:16
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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docdoom77 wrote:I don't see anything here saying that Crypteks and Lords are multiple per slot or don't use a slot. So outside of formations, we're stuck with an Overlord and a single Cryptek. Sigh.
They REALLLY wanna sell formations. even by force.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:09:33
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Keep in mind that we haven't seen the actual lists for wargear, just stuff someone in the codex has. I'm pretty damn sure that dispersion shields are still available only to lychguards, not to characters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:10:09
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Illuminor Seraz is amazing IMO, same with Orikan AND youcan field them in the royal court formation. Also notice these guys all have IC including normal crypteks meaning all you do is purchase royal court formations, grab 0-5 of each character type then join them to other units. So whoever was upset over having all them crypteks coverted, thankfully you can still use them! Always glad to see people NOT get screwed over.
Also I'd like to note that it appears that there is nothing stopping a C'tan from shooting two powers a turn off that table. Even if they can't I fully expect to see at least one C'tan in most armies. The tranny c'tan is easily on par with a wraith knight.
12" move ignoring terrain. s8 t7 but with a 4++ These things are your answer to MC's and CC units.
I think the new book is overall win!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:11:38
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Numberless Necron Warrior
Bremen
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Nakor The BlueRider wrote: Henker-Kind wrote: Nakor The BlueRider wrote:D Lords got nerfed into the bin. Still WS 4 BS 4 unlike the the Overlords, Jet pack infinity & come with a Staff of Light for 10 points less.
Boo
Not at all! You can give them a chronometron and a phase shifter - heck give him a dispersion shield 3++ I guess...and I think relics too! Have you read thate nightbringer weapon?
Ha yeah the nerd rage blinded me to that fact. So its is possible to give a +2/++3 for how many points we shall have to wait. The lost of the movement is huge tho, imho & it would of been nice for it to see the same stat increase.
Maybe we shall see that a D.lord with Lychguards jumping out of the Ghost Arc is the new hotness.
and his jet pack infantry isn't that bad if we give him some shooty relics
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:12:00
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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MLKTH wrote:Keep in mind that we haven't seen the actual lists for wargear, just stuff someone in the codex has. I'm pretty damn sure that dispersion shields are still available only to lychguards, not to characters.
Nope. DShields are listed under Technoarcana, which all O Lords, D Lords and regular Lords can take.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:12:50
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Numberless Necron Warrior
Bremen
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Red Corsair wrote:Illuminor Seraz is amazing IMO, same with Orikan AND youcan field them in the royal court formation. Also notice these guys all have IC including normal crypteks meaning all you do is purchase royal court formations, grab 0-5 of each character type then join them to other units. So whoever was upset over having all them crypteks coverted, thankfully you can still use them! Always glad to see people NOT get screwed over.
Also I'd like to note that it appears that there is nothing stopping a C'tan from shooting two powers a turn off that table. Even if they can't I fully expect to see at least one C'tan in most armies. The tranny c'tan is easily on par with a wraith knight.
12" move ignoring terrain. s8 t7 but with a 4++ These things are your answer to MC's and CC units.
I think the new book is overall win!
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE TO YOU MAN THAT BOOK IS AWESOME! I was never so positive about a release or book of GW before!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:14:14
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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MLKTH wrote:Keep in mind that we haven't seen the actual lists for wargear, just stuff someone in the codex has. I'm pretty damn sure that dispersion shields are still available only to lychguards, not to characters.
hmm. from the pics of the codex pages...
"Overlord may take items from the Melee Weapons, Ranged Weapons, Technoarcana and/or Artefacts of the Aeons lists."
Dispersion shields are listed as technoarcana. RAW you should be able to take a dispersion shield on him since it's on the Technoarcana list no?
But you're probably right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:14:51
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Killer Klaivex
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So, is there a point to Trazyn now?
He doesn't have super-scoring, he doesn't have anything like the old MSS, his weapon is crap and it's effect is somehow even more useless than before (if you can believe that). What's the point of taking him?
Moreover, if he dies, why would you want him back? You're sacrificing a useful character to revive a crap one.
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blood reaper wrote:I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote:GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
Andilus Greatsword wrote:
"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"
Akiasura wrote:I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
insaniak wrote:
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:15:31
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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RivenSkull wrote: MLKTH wrote:Keep in mind that we haven't seen the actual lists for wargear, just stuff someone in the codex has. I'm pretty damn sure that dispersion shields are still available only to lychguards, not to characters.
Nope. DShields are listed under Technoarcana, which all O Lords, D Lords and regular Lords can take.
Yes, based on current spoiled info, but we could be missing a listing with an asterix that says, may not be taken by a CCB or something to that effect. Need the full codex to be certain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:15:33
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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Wraiths are beasts now apparently Quantum Shielding DOES NOT cover rear armor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 17:16:31
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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Nightbringer got even better:
gaze of death ignores cover and regains his life!
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