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2015/01/27 20:57:37
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
With the new rules, what do you use Overlords for now?
- It's not for MSS - It's not for Res. Orbs
- It's not to unlock a Royal Court
- It's not for tanking wounds
What do you use them for?
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You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
2015/01/27 20:57:54
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
NO NO NO NO NO.... THAT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO TAKE THEM!!!
We still have the normal CAD. We still can be an allied detachment. We can still use the Mephret Detachment!
Got a reference for this one? The guy with the book stated there is no CAD or force org really in the book.
Non of the 7th edition codicies have the CAD or Allied detachments in them. They are only found in the BRB, and any faction (with just a few exceptions that don't have all of the battlefield roles) can use them.
Everything is in detachments (there was a nice picture from the book a few pages ago that repeats this).
CAD is a detachment.
Allied is a detachment.
Decurion is a detachment.
Mephrit is a detachment.
Any of them can contain your warlord... which would then become the primary detachment.
Allied MAY NOT carry your warlord, it is specifically prohibited
2015/01/27 21:00:45
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Eyjio wrote: Does it say models from the Mephirit dynasty can take items from the Technoarcana or Artifacts of the Aeons? If not, you have your answer.
That is not how it works.
The Codex would need a restriction that it can only be taken in Detachments/Formations from the Codex.
Example:
Characters with the Necrons Faction that are part of a Detachment or Formation presented in this book can select an item from the Relics of the War in Heaven list at the points cost shown.
2015/01/27 21:01:10
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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Yeah I'm just running my unpainted Warriors as Flayed Ones right now. In the future, I might convert some Warrior boxes and some spikey bits into Flayed Ones, seems more reasonable.
Eons of Battle has a video how to convert Necron Warriors into Flayed Ones
There's a nice, simple one. I definitely have plenty of Bayonets and various Void Blade type weapons sitting about.
I was originally going to make actual claws out of plasticard, but I actually like this quite a bit.
2015/01/27 21:02:27
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Is it just me or has the Tesla destructor lost the Arc rule? So no more extra snapshot hits. Price bump. And nor more arc? Would make em kinda sad losing the arc IMO. Rest i can live with just fine
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2015/01/27 21:03:14
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
The more I think of it there must be specific items in the technoarcana wich only tomb blades or lords can take: I bet it is under their specific unit profile with points... otherwise...
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2015/01/27 21:04:15
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Waaghboss Grobnub wrote: Is it just me or has the Tesla destructor lost the Arc rule? So no more extra snapshot hits. Price bump. And nor more arc? Would make em kinda sad losing the arc IMO. Rest i can live with just fine
It sucks when you look at it that way. So, I delude myself by thinking of it as 2 autocannons with tesla. Then I feel pretty darn good about it.
Requizen wrote: You can't mix and match relics, unless I'm missing something.
Normally, yes. I'm looking for the actual prohibition though.
Tried both the front of the book where it says relics are one per army, and on the actual relic page.
Does it say models from the Mephirit dynasty can take items from the Technoarcana or Artifacts of the Aeons? If not, you have your answer.
No... the Technoacrcana would be wargear that would be used by whatever models can take the Technoacrana. Artifacts of the Aeons would be our equivalent of relics.
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2015/01/27 21:04:36
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Waaghboss Grobnub wrote: Is it just me or has the Tesla destructor lost the Arc rule? So no more extra snapshot hits. Price bump. And nor more arc? Would make em kinda sad losing the arc IMO. Rest i can live with just fine
Hopefully they just forgot to stick it in, people are just typing these out.
It was always just a chance on a 6 so not much of a miss.
2015/01/27 21:05:20
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
And they now have Rending as a rule instead of CCW's with Rending, which means you keep the rending on the whipcoils.
I'm surely not the only one that expected a nerf to Wraiths.. Instead they get all of this.. It's unbelievable!
Just saw the new Triarch Stalker. That thing is delicious! I will surely play that with some Heavy Destroyers next to it, hard to miss with BS5 and PE.
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2015/01/27 21:07:31
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
vipoid wrote: With the new rules, what do you use Overlords for now?
- It's not for MSS - It's not for Res. Orbs
- It's not to unlock a Royal Court
- It's not for tanking wounds
What do you use them for?
Lychguard unit sergeant, I guess?
No way. That's the Cryptek. 3++/4+ RP. Yummy. Assuming you give them dispersion shields of course.
First, you can't give Crypteks Dispersion Shields at the moment.
Second, Lords, Destroyer Lords, and Overlords are your Close Combat HQs. They lost MSS, but they still have good statlines, can take Warscythes, and Artifacts if you want. Overlords have very solid statlines with WS/BS/T/S 5 W3 A3.
Overall I think Overlords and Lords will be taken less than other HQs in this codex, but they have their uses.
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Skanktastic wrote: Does the wording of wraithflight make it so we dotn lose int on charge through difficult ? Is charging just considered moving ?
That's an interesting question. "Moving" might imply "In the Movement Phase", but it might also imply "whenever the model moves, including running/charging". I would interpret it as all movement, but people may argue it.
Waaghboss Grobnub wrote: Is it just me or has the Tesla destructor lost the Arc rule? So no more extra snapshot hits. Price bump. And nor more arc? Would make em kinda sad losing the arc IMO. Rest i can live with just fine
Hopefully they just forgot to stick it in, people are just typing these out.
It was always just a chance on a 6 so not much of a miss.
Nope, it's gone:
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2015/01/27 21:11:09
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
vipoid wrote: With the new rules, what do you use Overlords for now?
- It's not for MSS - It's not for Res. Orbs
- It's not to unlock a Royal Court
- It's not for tanking wounds
What do you use them for?
Lychguard unit sergeant, I guess?
No way. That's the Cryptek. 3++/4+ RP. Yummy. Assuming you give them dispersion shields of course.
First, you can't give Crypteks Dispersion Shields at the moment.
Second, Lords, Destroyer Lords, and Overlords are your Close Combat HQs. They lost MSS, but they still have good statlines, can take Warscythes, and Artifacts if you want. Overlords have very solid statlines with WS/BS/T/S 5 W3 A3.
Overall I think Overlords and Lords will be taken less than other HQs in this codex, but they have their uses.
I wasn't saying that the cryptek would have a dispersions shield, just that Lychguard w/ dispersion shields accompanied by a cryptek are 3++/4+ RP. I could have been clearer of course.
I'm leaning toward CCB Overlord w/ Phaseshifter, Phylactery and Warscythe. If you distribute shooting hits correctly, he could be a real monster.
vipoid wrote: With the new rules, what do you use Overlords for now?
- It's not for MSS - It's not for Res. Orbs
- It's not to unlock a Royal Court
- It's not for tanking wounds
What do you use them for?
Lychguard unit sergeant, I guess?
No way. That's the Cryptek. 3++/4+ RP. Yummy. Assuming you give them dispersion shields of course.
First, you can't give Crypteks Dispersion Shields at the moment.
Second, Lords, Destroyer Lords, and Overlords are your Close Combat HQs. They lost MSS, but they still have good statlines, can take Warscythes, and Artifacts if you want. Overlords have very solid statlines with WS/BS/T/S 5 W3 A3.
Overall I think Overlords and Lords will be taken less than other HQs in this codex, but they have their uses.
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Skanktastic wrote: Does the wording of wraithflight make it so we dotn lose int on charge through difficult ? Is charging just considered moving ?
That's an interesting question. "Moving" might imply "In the Movement Phase", but it might also imply "whenever the model moves, including running/charging". I would interpret it as all movement, but people may argue it.
Waaghboss Grobnub wrote: Is it just me or has the Tesla destructor lost the Arc rule? So no more extra snapshot hits. Price bump. And nor more arc? Would make em kinda sad losing the arc IMO. Rest i can live with just fine
Hopefully they just forgot to stick it in, people are just typing these out.
It was always just a chance on a 6 so not much of a miss.
Nope, it's gone:
So the Obilisk has 4 x heavy 5 tesla!
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2015/01/27 21:12:14
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Waaghboss Grobnub wrote: Is it just me or has the Tesla destructor lost the Arc rule? So no more extra snapshot hits. Price bump. And nor more arc? Would make em kinda sad losing the arc IMO. Rest i can live with just fine
Don't forget it being heavy now
2015/01/27 21:12:57
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Waaghboss Grobnub wrote: Is it just me or has the Tesla destructor lost the Arc rule? So no more extra snapshot hits. Price bump. And nor more arc? Would make em kinda sad losing the arc IMO. Rest i can live with just fine
Don't forget it being heavy now
Why is that a problem? Tesla destructors are all on vehicles and there it doesn't matter if it's assault or heavy.
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2015/01/27 21:16:46
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Waaghboss Grobnub wrote: Is it just me or has the Tesla destructor lost the Arc rule? So no more extra snapshot hits. Price bump. And nor more arc? Would make em kinda sad losing the arc IMO. Rest i can live with just fine
Don't forget it being heavy now
How does that matter aren't all vehicles relentless anyway?
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2015/01/27 21:18:27
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
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