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Oh, I'm not getting into this too much, but boars have much longer snouts. The snout of Dain's mount is squashed similar to a Vietnamese Pot Bellied Pig.
You are welcome to your own view however
Boar is the term for an intact male Porcine.
Pigs and Wild Boars are also the same species, just one has been selectively bred for certain traits.
So yes, he is riding a Boar. As for the snout, pigs can have very short noses. It depends on the breed or the individual animal.
That was probably one of the things cut for the theatrical release, but will be added back in with the Extended Edition. In the battle, Thorin, Dwalin, Kili and Fili mount up on goats that suddenly appear out of nowhere in the middle of the battle. My guess is that there is actually Dwarven Battle Goat Cavalry present in the battle, and Thorin & co. simply commander some of those goats (Thorin is the King after all and can do that).
Indeed. We actually saw Ram Cavalry and Dwarf Ballistas in the teaser.
The extended edition of the movie will definitely be better as it will add necessary padding to a lot of areas.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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Given how the theatrical versions all turned out, they probably would have been better served as two 4 hour movies instead of three 2 1/3 hour movies.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
I'm one of those people who doesn't mind all the extra stuff from the appendices being put in, nor do I mind characters like Legolas being inserted into the narrative (the movies aren't the books, something so many people don't seem to understand). Nevertheless, there was something off about the first and third films.
The first film doesn't really have a climax (they get in trouble, fight some Orcs, and the Orcs are still there at the end) and the third film doesn't really have a beginning (it just picks up where the last one ended and never slows down).
The Lord of the Rings got better with the Extended Editions. I fear that the Hobbit films need to the Extended Editions to make them make sense.
All in all I didn't hate it, but the studio had their fingers deep in the second trilogy and this film most of all. Too many set pieces and stunts to sell merch, and not enough of the gritty beauty from the first trilogy.
The ending was rushed, the dialogue overdramatic and I suspect a lot of the best scenes were cut to make room for the swordporn. I did actually like Connolly as Dain; it's almost as if the license deal with GW cross pollinated a WFB TrollSlayer into Middle Earth.
Hoping the extended directors cuts will show us the films Jackson wanted to make.
Of course it didn't help that I was seated next to a comically stereotyped giant nerd who provided sotto voice commentary throughout the whole film and moaned whenever Tauriel came onscreen.
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Connolly was my fav part of the third film. I loved him telling the Elves to "Sod off!".
The big where eyebrows tells Leggy to look for 'Strider' felt like a rushed "Quickly, wipe the droid's memory so that this makes sense in Episode 4" kind of moment.
Iron_Captain wrote: He also sang a lot of songs from LotR.
Saruman singing Treebeard's song is kinda funny:
haha Tolkien ensamble right? i have all those albums.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I think Evangeline Lilly made a great Elf. Shame about the stupid romance and writing though.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Connolly was my fav part of the third film. I loved him telling the Elves to "Sod off!".
The big where eyebrows tells Leggy to look for 'Strider' felt like a rushed "Quickly, wipe the droid's memory so that this makes sense in Episode 4" kind of moment.
Actually, its not a plot hole. It ties directly into the Fellowship of the Ring.(or at least, PJ's version). At the Council of Elrond, when Boromir is brusque with Aragorn, Legolas leaps up to defend Aragorn.
Legolas "This is no mere Ranger! This is Aragorn, son of Arathorn. You owe him your allegiance".
Clearly (in PJ's universe), Legolas had prior knowledge of Aragorn's indentity and they were on somewhat friendly terms. That suggests they'd know each other for some time, so this is actually a cool Easter Egg. Legolas did in fact seek out Aragorn following the Battle of Five Armies, and found him. They must have become friends prior to the Fellowship.
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I'm pretty sure Legolas knew Aragorn and was already friends with him in the book as well.
In terms of little Easter eggs, one thing I liked was that when the Dwarves were all armored up, Gloin was wearing the helmet that Gimli wears all throughout LotR. I thought that was a nice touch.
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Hordini wrote: I'm pretty sure Legolas knew Aragorn and was already friends with him in the book as well.
In terms of little Easter eggs, one thing I like was that when the Dwarves were all armored up, Gloin was wearing the helmet that Gimli wears all throughout LotR. I thought that was a nice touch.
Really? Feth. Its a shame the GW miniature lacks that helmet.
Hordini wrote:The LotR films, made by Peter Jackson, is infinitely superior to the Hobbit films, but Peter Jackson is a hack? I don't think Christopher Lee had much to do with it. I'm not saying actors can't have any effect on directors, as filmmaking is a collaborative art form, but last I knew Christopher Lee didn't have anything to do with the set and costume design, editing, cinematography, screenwriting, etc.
from what I remember watching the behind the scenes, Christopher Lee was a consultant of sorts for PJ because he knew the books as well as, if not better than, anyone else there. I doubt he was a massive factor in reigning in PJ for the LotR and why the Hobbit was pretty OTT, but he did have a role there outside of just acting.
ruprecht wrote:All in all I didn't hate it, but the studio had their fingers deep in the second trilogy and this film most of all. Too many set pieces and stunts to sell merch, and not enough of the gritty beauty from the first trilogy.
The ending was rushed, the dialogue overdramatic and I suspect a lot of the best scenes were cut to make room for the swordporn. I did actually like Connolly as Dain; it's almost as if the license deal with GW cross pollinated a WFB TrollSlayer into Middle Earth.
Hoping the extended directors cuts will show us the films Jackson wanted to make.
So much this. Everything I didn't like was either stated to be down to the producers (Tauriel/Legolas/Kili love triangle) or exactly the kind of thing I'd imagine producers like to shoe-horn into films (emphasis on action and cheap humour over acting and plot).
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
I really enjoyed The Hobbit trilogy. I think a lot of people are going in to this film expecting the LoTR movies and forgetting that The Hobbit was written before the LoTR books as a childrens book.
I like my childrens movies to be quirky, goofy, and nonsensical at times.
ruprecht wrote: All in all I didn't hate it, but the studio had their fingers deep in the second trilogy and this film most of all. Too many set pieces and stunts to sell merch, and not enough of the gritty beauty from the first trilogy.
This definitely sounds like the root of the problem to me. Mo' money, mo' problems, and all that. On top of that, PJ just didn't have his heart in it, and was probably only in charge because the money was good.
This is also not a plot hole. He is referring to C3PO's memory being wiped at the end of Episode 3 because as of Episode 4, he apparently has no knowledge of the events which preceded it.
However, the moment is executed in a rushed off hand manner that jarred somewhat for most people, hence HBMC drawing a parallel between that and Legolas being sent to look for Strider.
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ruprecht wrote: All in all I didn't hate it, but the studio had their fingers deep in the second trilogy and this film most of all. Too many set pieces and stunts to sell merch, and not enough of the gritty beauty from the first trilogy.
This definitely sounds like the root of the problem to me. Mo' money, mo' problems, and all that. On top of that, PJ just didn't have his heart in it, and was probably only in charge because the money was good.
It also had a lot of starts and stops at others hands before Peter Jackson was essentially forced to do the project. Guillermo Del Toro had already done a bunch of work on the preproduction to the point of getting credited in the film. Between studio want and filtering multiple viewpoints you get a bit of an unfocused mess.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
All the doom and gloom here, I thought it was going to be a letdown. But I thoroughly enjoyed it. My only issue was that Sarumon says "Leave Sauron to me", setting up the showing of his fall to the dark lord. And then they didn't show it!!! All it would have taken is a 3 second clip of him approaching The Eye and kneeling in front of it!!
Seriously, that's my only complaint.
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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The major problem I had was the really creepy CGI of Legolas in shots that could have perfectly used Orlando Bloom in makeup. There were a couple of shots were he has a strange arngry/stern expression that totally stuck out, uncanny valley-wise. I could kind of explain Dain, as Conolly is old? Maybe?
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
AegisGrimm wrote: The major problem I had was the really creepy CGI of Legolas in shots that could have perfectly used Orlando Bloom in makeup. There were a couple of shots were he has a strange arngry/stern expression that totally stuck out, uncanny valley-wise. I could kind of explain Dain, as Conolly is old? Maybe?
Conolly, I heard has Alzheimer or something similar so he could actually act the part properly without forgetting his lines and so on, he also couldnt travel to NZ or something similar.
Not sure if true though, but apparently thats why he was CGI.
Swastakowey wrote: Conolly, I heard has Alzheimer or something similar so he could actually act the part properly without forgetting his lines and so on, he also couldnt travel to NZ or something similar.
Swastakowey wrote: Conolly, I heard has Alzheimer or something similar so he could actually act the part properly without forgetting his lines and so on, he also couldnt travel to NZ or something similar.
Parkinsons, and not (thank God) Alzheimers.
I did not know that. I have really enjoyed him for decades and immediately recognized the voice.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
AegisGrimm wrote: I could kind of explain Dain, as Conolly is old? Maybe?
The man is 72 years old.
Well, yeah. But what was Bloom's excuse?
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
I believe that the problem with all the movies of the lord of the rings saga is, that the source material makes for a horrible movie. What makes tolkiens writing unique is the fact that he thoroughly describes every singly thing in the story, but doing that in a movie is hard if not impossible. Because of this, it is almost impossible to create a movie, that would be loyal to the source material.
