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 Desubot wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Blood Angels for me. Solely because of that whole "space vampires" thing.

What bout space wolfs for there werewolves in space?

Im against blood angels too. Ill take space werewolves over space vampires every time. Take away the wolfy parts, and they are still the space vikings, which is cool in my book.

Well Team jacob has less sparkles

feth Dark Angels. The cheesy bastards.

Although hearing about the GK hypocrisy makes me want to change my vote. Not sure why I didn't go against them in the first place, being a daemon player and all...

Space Wolves. Mostly because I used to play Space Wolves in 3rd because I loved the Viking thing they had going but they went down the Wolf Wolf Wolf Murder Wolf Wolf Fang Wolf path and I just got so annoyed with it. I miss Space Vikings I don't want Space Furries.

Dark angels, because of them being douchebags since they are all closet heretics
grey knights (post ward) space wolves share the 2nd place

 Quickjager wrote:

 Lobukia wrote:
I actually have nothing but fond feelings for all the original loyalist chapters (and BT/CF, why do they get separate entries?).

It's the GK for me. Have you ever read of the horrible things done just to create a box of bolter ammo for them? Hint: innocents are tortured and then killed, so that their suffering and purity can sanctify one round. Then don't get me started on a suit of armor or what happens to failed applicants (which isn't much better than those accepted).

Whoa where did you get this from? I know a GREAT deal of fluff for many factions of 40k, and GK are my thing but I've never read about this, in fact I want to say your making that up (I can't debate the GK purges though those definitely happen).

EDIT: I would also say Marines Malevolent need to get smacked down, preferably by the Minotaurs and the two get into a extended war with each other and kill each other off.

You can want to say I'm making it up, but I'm not (however the Tzeentch thing is all me, as I said). I think I've read all BL stuff regarding any faction I play. I'll find it (which book that's in) and post right here which one it is.

Black Templars.

Regarding brutality of GK

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Victories_of_the_Space_Marines_%28Anthology%29

Sacrifice

Why no "All of the above" option?

 Lobukia wrote:
Regarding brutality of GK

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Victories_of_the_Space_Marines_%28Anthology%29

Sacrifice

Ahhh yes... Alaric, the Justicar that even IMO should had fallen to Chaos and may as well have been a Khornate Beserker... which was the main reason I didn't read the series.

Space Wolves and Blood Angels had quite OTT fluff in their 5th edition Codices which made them unlikeable. I haven't read the latest books in their entirety, but seems like some of the worst excesses have been toned down.

I'd have to say that White Scars are currently maybe my least favourite. Now I admit this is perhaps because I am not really familiar with their lore, but they seem just kind of straight Mongol stereotype with little depth.

Personally I like the Iron Hands the least. The whole "In bed with the Mechanicum" thing was always the least interesting gimmick for me, and I generally prefer the chapters with more open ended primarch stories. But if you get into which chapter is the most hated by GW its a different story

For me it's least liked. That would be the Black Templars. A pure crusader 2nd founding chapter, that is hogwash. Every chapter should have a homebase to set up shop. More like the Homeless Hobos chapter.

I don't really hate any of the chapters listed, im also another of those crazy players who actually likes the Wolves and Ultras.

I voted other, my choice being the Deathwatch, i know im gonna get crucified for this and they are not an actual chapter but i just never got what is so cool about them, i just dont like them as a concept.

Dark Angels, then Grey Knights. Dark Angels because they really seem like pricks in the novels I've read that feature them, and Grey Knights because the concept of "automatically the best at everything" bores the hell out of me.

Grey Knights are incredibly dull.

Salamanders win it for me because of Nick Kyme and his butchery of every aspect of 40k. An awful series author. The Space Wolves are just as bad but I genuinely HATE books by Nick Kyme and avoid them by default. William King hasn't gotten me that annoyed yet. Should add that Salamanders on the tabletop are just painted green and have nearly no benefit.

 Quickjager wrote:

 Lobukia wrote:
Regarding brutality of GK

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Victories_of_the_Space_Marines_%28Anthology%29

Sacrifice

Ahhh yes... Alaric, the Justicar that even IMO should had fallen to Chaos and may as well have been a Khornate Beserker... which was the main reason I didn't read the series.

Except this tale isn't about him, it's about what goes into equipping every GK. It just happens that this gear is destined for him. Equipping one squad of GK is 1,000 good and pure citizens bled and killed for no other reason than producing ammo only moderately better than bolter rounds any marine would use. GK aren't holy, they're tools of oppression and slaughter, whose cost long ago exceeded their benefits.

These same thousand lives an Ultramarine or Salamander would gladly die to save. I can't imagine what Guilliman would say if he became High Lord of Terra again.

Added Dark Angels and option for multiple choices.

Grey Knights.

What happens when you put Marines Malevolent and Ultra Marines together, strap a bunch of dorky crap on them and leave them sprue gray.

Out of curiosity, aren't the SW players mad Lion straight up sucker-punched their primarch?

 Lobukia wrote:

 Quickjager wrote:

 Lobukia wrote:
Regarding brutality of GK

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Victories_of_the_Space_Marines_%28Anthology%29

Sacrifice

Ahhh yes... Alaric, the Justicar that even IMO should had fallen to Chaos and may as well have been a Khornate Beserker... which was the main reason I didn't read the series.

Except this tale isn't about him, it's about what goes into equipping every GK. It just happens that this gear is destined for him. Equipping one squad of GK is 1,000 good and pure citizens bled and killed for no other reason than producing ammo only moderately better than bolter rounds any marine would use. GK aren't holy, they're tools of oppression and slaughter, whose cost long ago exceeded their benefits.

These same thousand lives an Ultramarine or Salamander would gladly die to save. I can't imagine what Guilliman would say if he became High Lord of Terra again.

Eh, take the good with the bad. Haven't read the book so I don't know. I do know however GK avoid civilian casualties whenever they can, they DO know they are meant to protect humanity and that it comes before them or ANY individual. They take care that they aren't seen except when unavoidable, and since wherever they were anyway the sector was going to burn to daemons anyway I can hardly count it as a net loss, after all Chaos is quite formidable. For instance, they had a choice between staying on a planet for a warp storm to abate; rather than risk being seen they decided to leave at sub-light speeds preeeetty much dooming that specific group to a 1000-year journey. Theres more evidence they purge only when chaos was present when they destroyed a WAAAGH! on a planet, the people there who saw them they left alone and when another chapter, the Fire Lords showed up the people went on about steel clad saviors.

And figuring Guilliman is currently on ice due Fulgrim, I don't think he is exactly in a position to say anything. Especially because he hasn't seen the state of the Imperium with enemies literally outside and within. I doubt the Big E would be happy either though.

Wolves. Every TFG I've ever seen IRL has been a wolves player, at least initially. Any tau or eldar players just happened to be there when their codices hulked out, and generally try to take less "gamey" lists.

The wolf players... Oh man. Everything from obvious list tailoring to cheating on dice rolls, "forgetting" penalties, "forgetting" that their guy doesn't have that many attacks...

This describes 3 separate people, and I have yet to see a good wolf player, so I'm left with a 100% TFG rate for the wolves.

niv-mizzet wrote:
Wolves. Every TFG I've ever seen IRL has been a wolves player, at least initially. Any tau or eldar players just happened to be there when their codices hulked out, and generally try to take less "gamey" lists.

The wolf players... Oh man. Everything from obvious list tailoring to cheating on dice rolls, "forgetting" penalties, "forgetting" that their guy doesn't have that many attacks...

This describes 3 separate people, and I have yet to see a good wolf player, so I'm left with a 100% TFG rate for the wolves.

Its not cheating! its the powers of Fenris! I HATE cheaters tho, all those WAAC and Shady players man they suck!

On topic!

I dislike the Ultramarines! Spiritual Liege, mary sue chapter. One of the reasons I like the SW is the organized chaos that they bring to the table and fluff, its so much more depth to me. Im not a fan of structure for the sake of structure its silly, over supervision and rules is for the birds, but I don't hate any chapter or legion just the poor back stories and rules given to them through the editions (furry wolves, emo angels, and biker gangs included)

In order of dislike:

First, The Wolves: I REALLY want to like them, the space viking thing is great, but when we get to the repetition of the "wolf" whatever ad naseum, it's just really juvenile to me. I realize that a variety of people play the game, but I just feel that the "Oh my gosh, werewolf!" Aspect really ruins the much better designed and executed style of vikings. (For the record, I very much like the bawdy, drunken portrayal of Leman Russ. I think it gives him some great flaws, rather than howling at the moon.)

Second, Grey Knights: something something dreadknight baby carrier... also the apparent incorruptible-ness is unappealing to me. Their methods are described as "pure", "necessary ", "what must be done". But then they butcher allied forces... pretty sure blood is for the blood god no matter who spills it. (Oh, no, wait. This is HOLY blood spilling. Ah, I see. Totally not the same.)

Lastly, our good friends the Marines Malevolent. I'm pretty sure there are only a handful of fans out there, but I would honestly like to see more fluff involving them and then a SPECTACULAR comeuppance for their jackassery. Might make a good read. But yeah, someone should knock those guys down a few pegs.

My three.

FM Argo

Edit: Emprah, deliver me from my spelling and punctuation heresies.

Space Wolves. The were once cool, in the long long ago, but they slowly got sillier and sillier.

Riding giant wolves with the Wolfy Wolf Cavalry was heir first step on the path to damnation. But how could it get worse? Oh, wait. Logan Claus on his sleigh. Flying clown shoe longboats. Freeze rays.

William Murderfang Murderfang Murderfang.

The Space Wolves have jumped the Space Shark so far there's just no coming back for them. By far the worst faction in 40K. I don't think another one even comes close. The Space Wolves are so, so awful.

You know it's a sad, sad time when Space Wolves get more hate than Ultramarines. And all of it is justified... Wolfity wolf wolf wolf!

Dark angles, I used to love them but the armour has just got more and more over the top. I know wolves are the same but I can live with it for some reason. I still like the robed veterans box as it's rather plain and monastic, but the termies and vehicles are just horrendous. Stone chapels on flyers?? I mean come on who even thinks these things up!! I would have DA as space fighting monks. Robed, plain and full of menace.

Come to think about it, outside of rules and specific fluff (I can't stand any 40k book, but really like the background fluff), I think the concepts of the different legions are really great.

Even if I don't like the over-the-top fluff of Ultramarines, the roman empire vibe (especially the artwork) is pretty cool.
Even if I don't like SM bikes, the tribal mongolian aspect of WS are appealing to me.
And so on.

So my answer to the OP question is: none.

I've always hated the Dark Angels. Not sure why, maybe it's the whole monastic thing, I'm really not sure, I've just never liked them and never understood why they're so popular. I voted for them, but Iron Hands are a close second.