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Only 500 rounds, so it isn't super heavy. Load distribution might be kind of weird, but it isn't like the soldier won't be able to maneuver with the squad/platoon. My complaint in stuff like this is how does he carry all his other crap? The backpack looks like it carries more than just the ammunition, but how much storage space does it have? Can he take this out in the field, and all of his equipment needed to survive for days or weeks on end?
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djones520 wrote: I'm an Chairman thank you. We develop our brain to do the work of 50 Soldiers.
Fixed that for you.
Ok... you're young, you've been known to make mistakes before, so I'll go easy on you right now.
What you just did would be considered a mighty faux pas. See, you'll occasionally see myself and others who have served trading barbs with each other regarding our respective branches. We call this inter-service ribbing. Something that we, who have served, feel is an earned privilege of our timed served, shared sacrifices, etc... while we do it, never doubt that there is an underlying respect for all branches. We all specialize in different forms of warfare. We all are trained to do different tasks. We all share different levels of risk. We have all taken the same oath though. We have all sworn to defend our nations with our lives. We are all willing to be the shield that keeps you safe from the dangers of this world.
You have done none of that. So whenever a civilian decides to "partake" in such affairs, at best you can expect a cold shoulder. So if you'd like me to continue to treat you with respect in the future, don't do that again. You have not made any of the sacrifices I've made. You have not had to deal with any of the responsibility that I have had to. You have not earned the right to mock the path that I walk, even if it is in a friendly manner.
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djones520 wrote: I'm an Chairman thank you. We develop our brain to do the work of 50 Soldiers.
Fixed that for you.
Ok... you're young, you've been known to make mistakes before, so I'll go easy on you right now.
What you just did would be considered a mighty faux pas. See, you'll occasionally see myself and others who have served trading barbs with each other regarding our respective branches. We call this inter-service ribbing. Something that we, who have served, feel is an earned privilege of our timed served, shared sacrifices, etc... while we do it, never doubt that there is an underlying respect for all branches. We all specialize in different forms of warfare. We all are trained to do different tasks. We all share different levels of risk. We have all taken the same oath though. We have all sworn to defend our nations with our lives. We are all willing to be the shield that keeps you safe from the dangers of this world.
You have done none of that. So whenever a civilian decides to "partake" in such affairs, at best you can expect a cold shoulder. So if you'd like me to continue to treat you with respect in the future, don't do that again. You have not made any of the sacrifices I've made. You have not had to deal with any of the responsibility that I have had to. You have not earned the right to mock the path that I walk, even if it is in a friendly manner.
Ok, I did not know that was a faux pas. I won't do that again. I have the utmost respect for pilots, several Inew my family where airforce pilots.
djones520 wrote: I'm an Chairman thank you. We develop our brain to do the work of 50 Soldiers.
Fixed that for you.
Ok... you're young, you've been known to make mistakes before, so I'll go easy on you right now.
What you just did would be considered a mighty faux pas. See, you'll occasionally see myself and others who have served trading barbs with each other regarding our respective branches. We call this inter-service ribbing. Something that we, who have served, feel is an earned privilege of our timed served, shared sacrifices, etc... while we do it, never doubt that there is an underlying respect for all branches. We all specialize in different forms of warfare. We all are trained to do different tasks. We all share different levels of risk. We have all taken the same oath though. We have all sworn to defend our nations with our lives. We are all willing to be the shield that keeps you safe from the dangers of this world.
You have done none of that. So whenever a civilian decides to "partake" in such affairs, at best you can expect a cold shoulder. So if you'd like me to continue to treat you with respect in the future, don't do that again. You have not made any of the sacrifices I've made. You have not had to deal with any of the responsibility that I have had to. You have not earned the right to mock the path that I walk, even if it is in a friendly manner.
You have SINGAR "bricks" for comm's Don't be blowing smoke up me arse laddie
Still 500 rounds for that SAW (5.56mm) is nothing since basic load on the light side is like 210 to 360 plus a few more mags somewhere on their body.
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Weapon itself is 16 lbs Like 15 lbs for 500 rounds
thinking the feed belt like 4 lbs
Ruck/carry case ball parking 10 lbs
Not adding spare barrel and tripod
IOTV and other gear
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djones520 wrote: [
You have done none of that. So whenever a civilian decides to "partake" in such affairs, at best you can expect a cold shoulder. So if you'd like me to continue to treat you with respect in the future, don't do that again. You have not earned the right to mock the path that I walk, even if it is in a friendly manner.
In fairness you did set a bit of a 'Do you think my girlfriend is hot?' trap there and HSM was only mocking in a friendly manner. You started poking fun and screwing around, for others to join in on a public forum should be expected.
The cold shoulder would have been a better way to deal with that as currently you're coming across as a bit of a bully.
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Basic load for a SAW gunner is like 600 rounds
200 round Mag's
Quicker to swap mag's then to feed into the feed belt and container.
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Still, The concept is there and may be used for exoskeletons where you may not have the fine detail of your fingers to switch maqs.
Or it is a wrist mounted minigun.
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The potential problems I could imagine is that it looks like it'd be harder to break a link if you have a runaway gun. And if there's a problem in the pack or in the feed line, that's a lot of ammo that you're going to have to waste a lot of time getting to, where before you could just swap a magazine or break a link, reset and continue firing. It's also more gear hanging off you to get caught up or tangled on something.
But I don't know. Maybe they're getting the issues ironed out and maybe it'd be worth it.
Still 500 rounds for that SAW (5.56mm) is nothing since basic load on the light side is like 210 to 360 plus a few more mags somewhere on their body.
He's talking the 240B, so it's 500 rounds of 7.62 that is being carried.... Still, not all that heavy (though I honestly wish I had had this pack when I had foot patrols with the 240 :(
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Hordini wrote: The potential problems I could imagine is that it looks like it'd be harder to break a link if you have a runaway gun. And if there's a problem in the pack or in the feed line, that's a lot of ammo that you're going to have to waste a lot of time getting to, where before you could just swap a magazine or break a link, reset and continue firing. It's also more gear hanging off you to get caught up or tangled on something.
Depending on what generation or "model" of 240 you're talking about, they have done quite a bit to limit or mediate the risks of a runaway (this problem has never been fixed or really bothered with on the M2 though... who fething cares though, it's still a 50 cal )
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Yeah, seems like one busted or jammed link and you've got the weapon out of commission.
Plus it doesn't look like the wearer would actually be able to fix the problem himself as its on his back. So he would need a buddy, at which point you might as well have the second guy be the one carrying the ammo, and then you would probably get more ammo capacity by having two guys carry drums instead of just one.
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Grey Templar wrote: Yeah, seems like one busted or jammed link and you've got the weapon out of commission.
Plus it doesn't look like the wearer would actually be able to fix the problem himself as its on his back. So he would need a buddy, at which point you might as well have the second guy be the one carrying the ammo, and then you would probably get more ammo capacity by having two guys carry drums instead of just one.
you mean like this?
Cause it will mean we are another step closer to 40k.
As for the backpack tbh, it looks to large and the belt sticks out to far from the body, if it got hit with a round would the belt survive / be usable ?
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