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Zagstruk w stormies used to be able to I think. And a dread in a certain type of pod. How about NOW? ANYTHING? I am getting pwned in the meta of imperial knights and super heavies.

There is a new BA formation that allows units to DS with minimal scatter then assault if they are near enough to two Locator Beacons. Other than that, it's a long gone ability.

Can't think of any. It's somthing they've been filtering out for a while.

You just need more Rokkits!

Lol Grendel.

Ain't there that FW Drop-pod?

ryuken87 wrote:
Ain't there that FW Drop-pod?

If you buy the pod.

The FW Lucius Pattern Drop Pod allows a Dreadnought to NOT disembark the turn it comes into play. Instead, it can stay in the Pod and stay nice and safe. In the next turn, it can assault out as the Drop Pod is now open topped.

They changed the rules with the last update. You used to be able to assault out on the turn you came into play. No more.

ryuken87 wrote:
Ain't there that FW Drop-pod?

Doesn't allow charges from deep strike anymore.

There is an Apoc formation (slaneshi deamons) that will let you do it.

Can't remember the name, something like "symphony of the grand host". I will try to find it and let you know the book and name of the formation.


EDIT:
Great Promenade of Exquisite Excess (I wasnt close at all)

Yea the Slaaneshi one is pretty darn crazy... It allows the Slaneshi units within the Formation to Rend on a 4+ Instead of a 6. Basically, keep the darn things in reserve, Bring em all in on the same turn, multi assault, erase entire boards. =/

Planetstrike is the main area where you will see assaulting from reserve.

Essentially anything that has the Deep Strike special rule can assault the turn it Deep Strikes in.

I haven't read the new Planetstrike rules, from the Stormclaw campaign. Is that still the case?

 chelsea_hollywood wrote:
I haven't read the new Planetstrike rules, from the Stormclaw campaign. Is that still the case?

The Red Waaagh!, not Stormclaw. To answer your question only if the mission has the Shock Tactics special rule.

 Kriswall wrote:
The FW Lucius Pattern Drop Pod allows a Dreadnought to NOT disembark the turn it comes into play. Instead, it can stay in the Pod and stay nice and safe. In the next turn, it can assault out as the Drop Pod is now open topped.

They changed the rules with the last update. You used to be able to assault out on the turn you came into play. No more.

Not to nitpick, but it was changed some time even before the last update.

Yep, Blood angels can do it now. With 3 stormraven formation, every unit with DS can go within12' of at least 2 ravens and not scatter + be allowed to assault the turn it arrives. No idea how to protectmy backline from it other than to greentide every inch of the board. Which will also auto-crash ravens in some cases

Storm Ravens are still Assault Vehicles right? He didn't say just Deep Strike so I guess anything and a Storm Raven could, or an outflanking Land Raider maybe a FMC

Sure, they can. However, they must carry tac marines. Though, all blood angels have furious charge, thus even tac marines will wreck most things in mellee on the charge.

Kavik_Whitescar wrote:
Storm Ravens are still Assault Vehicles right? He didn't say just Deep Strike so I guess anything and a Storm Raven could, or an outflanking Land Raider maybe a FMC

Anything arriving from reserve is prohibited from assaulting with a specific permission (apparently this 3 stromraven formation contains one)

Noone prohibits you from assault turn 2 along with the deepstriking assaulters.

You're right, i was unclear:

With specific permission, you are unable to assault on the turn you arrive from reserve, regardless of how you arrive (deep strike, etc) unless you have specific permission.

Right now, it looks like Planetstrike allows it, and perhaps the BA stormraven formation (i haven't seen it yet)

HERE is the currently leaked information.

If you can manage to read, it is quite clear on "and can charge on the same turn it arrives".

Thanks

That's a pretty nice formation, though it's not to horrifying since it's just Tac Squads that are allowed in the formation

 GoliothOnline wrote:
Yea the Slaaneshi one is pretty darn crazy... It allows the Slaneshi units within the Formation to Rend on a 4+ Instead of a 6. Basically, keep the darn things in reserve, Bring em all in on the same turn, multi assault, erase entire boards. =/

... my 120 6+ rending can be 4+....?
You have got to be kidding me, how!?

 chelsea_hollywood wrote:
That's a pretty nice formation, though it's not to horrifying since it's just Tac Squads that are allowed in the formation

Only Tac squads in the Formation, but any Deep Striking Bangel can benefit.

It's an interesting one, it can be distrupted and requires a good bit of setting up. The ObjSec makes it a good Objective grabber as well.

I take it Storm Ravens can have Teleport homers as well as the Tac Squads?

 Happyjew wrote:
The Red Waaagh!, not Stormclaw. To answer your question only if the mission has the Shock Tactics special rule.

That is true. IIRC pretty much all the missions have that special rule.

 BlackTalos wrote:
HERE is the currently leaked information.

If you can manage to read, it is quite clear on "and can charge on the same turn it arrives".

Wow. That formation can reroll their reserves roll and can start rolling for reserves T1. Looks like T1 assaults are back.

 NightHowler wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:
HERE is the currently leaked information.

If you can manage to read, it is quite clear on "and can charge on the same turn it arrives".

Wow. That formation can reroll their reserves roll and can start rolling for reserves T1. Looks like T1 assaults are back.

Not with this formation they are not.

The formation can come in Turn 1, anyone benefiting from the DS and charge cannot come in until Turn 2. Furthermore, the Tactical Marines embarked inside would not be able to Assault Turn 1, as they did not come in from DS Reserve.

 Happyjew wrote:
The formation can come in Turn 1, anyone benefiting from the DS and charge cannot come in until Turn 2. Furthermore, the Tactical Marines embarked inside would not be able to Assault Turn 1, as they did not come in from DS Reserve.

No, but it seems we are getting more formations with T1 DS.
And we always have Drop Pods, that works.

I don't play Blood Angels, but I thought I remembered reading somewhere that stormravens have deepstrike.

Can someone with the BA codex confirm this?

 NightHowler wrote:
I don't play Blood Angels, but I thought I remembered reading somewhere that stormravens have deepstrike.

Can someone with the BA codex confirm this?

They did when they weren't a flyer in 5ed. But the deep strike rule was removed in earlier 6ed (as was the case with all the pre-6ed flyers)