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str00dles1 wrote:
Not sure if its a secrete sale or some glitch, but MiniatureMarket has starters for DZC for 15 bucks, and the large 30$+ vehicles for 15$

Probalby the single best time ever to get into it

Glitch? I immediately went looking, and nothing was listed at those prices.

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Yea, it was a glitch. I paid for it all a bit ago and it went through. I checked after seeing your post and got "Order #100506792 - System Error - Pending Refund"

A bit disapointed they didnt honor it, and judging by how much stock# I was seeing vanish rapidly, they are going to be giving back a lot of refunds

New commanders!

General Arthur J. Wade


Jocasta Caine, Battle Vizier


Jessie Adams, Guide of the Damned



Also, this Dropfleet Art:

Some Dropfleet pictures have appeared after the DZC Invasion event at the weekend courtesy of BOW.

UCM Battleship


Scourge Motherships (although they look like the cruisers to me)


Some concept art, appears to be just UCM and Scourge though. No idea why the linked image is on its side.

how big is the ship in the first image? It looks massive

Isn't that one of those dzc-scaled dropfleet models for promotional/shows purposes?

No, they only made one DZC scaled ship and it wasn't that one.

It could be a manufacturing 3-up or equivalent, I guess.

But yeah the Dropzone Commander scale ship took them over a year to do, is about 6 feet long and was the equivalent of a 'light cruiser'

I thought it was smaller than that (class type I mean, I thought it was an actual dropship)? In any case, the ship shown in that image, based on what we know, resembles more a cruiser or battleship (supposedly much larger vessels) in shape and form.

Yeah, that's the Battleship in the game.

To put things in context. This is my pictures of the Avenger I took at the UK Games Expo.



Literally so big I couldn't fit it in the camera. - And I was standing back *far* from it.



The picture is rather fuzzy, but you can actually see about 25-30 UCM 'Condor' dropships in that top picture.


This is a picture of the first run of models for the game, at their normal scale etc.



You can see the model in the pic at the top of the page at the back there. - That's probably about 5.5-ish inches long and is the battleship

The small ships at the front left there? That's the Avenger in the games scale.

 Bolognesus wrote:
Isn't that one of those dzc-scaled dropfleet models for promotional/shows purposes?

No, although it has definitely been scaled up.



It looks to be on the top of a display cabinet so its a lot bigger than the production model will be. Pretty though.

Some interesting stuff here although not much of it is new

If it's 15-18 inches or so, it'd make sense to be a 3-up, right?

It would, if Hawk was using a 3-up production process. They very well could be, but I doubt it considering its a somewhat archaic method of producing tools for plastic injection molding, particularly when theyre designing the models in a CAD application that they can then produce molds from directly.

My guess is just the same 3d files but printed at a larger scale to show off the level of detail that's in the 3d file.

It´s a 3d-file printed at larger scale.

The avenger is actually 3m long and weighs 100kg. There are 50 dropships on each side of it.

This weeks Beats of War weekender has Dave from Hawk and Andy Chambers on talking Dropfleet.

Lots of good information




The relevant bit starts at around the 12 minute mark.

NoggintheNog wrote:
This weeks Beats of War weekender has Dave from Hawk and Andy Chambers on talking Dropfleet.

Lots of good information

Spoiler:

The relevant bit starts at around the 12 minute mark.

Look how different the stands are and how much better the ships fit on them now - that is excellent! That really bothered me before - seemed like a deal breaker for a game where every ship would be unstable, and now they seem very sturdy (with also some info on the bases themselves).

DFC is looking to be incredible! Really awesome to know that the Scourge fleet was by far the most difficult to design in CAD, and that the cruiser's file size was by far greater than the entire UCM's fleet combined! (Dem polygons tho.)

Also, Dave's painting is still on point - I don't recall ever having seen an iridescent paint job on a mini before.

Also-also, Andy is awesome!

Shut up and take my money. It appreciate that it sounds like a limited KS for the sake of retailers... but man would I have thrown a mountain of money at this one.

As it stands, I plan to go in hard.

The minis definitely look nice and the rules sound intriguing. I jumped the gun and acquired Halo instead in the meantime and I'd be hesitant to get into two spaceship games with no community near me at the same time so I'll have to reevaluate when the KS is up. I do like what they're doing with the scourge models unlike with DZC (CD rack of doom!)

Yeah, same here warboss, but because it's a Kickstarter and plastic I'm expecting the delivery estimate for this to be a ways out - plenty of time to compare (especially if there's a pledge manager).

The models look great (especially the UCM in my mind) but the main thing for me is the gameplay - DzC has a lot of neat ideas, but for our group it didn't come together well enough into a fun game with good replayability to keep folks playing it. So more than whether or not the rules are novel... I'd really like to see if it looks fun to play.

 RiTides wrote:
Yeah, same here warboss, but because it's a Kickstarter and plastic I'm expecting the delivery estimate for this to be a ways out - plenty of time to compare (especially if there's a pledge manager).

The models look great (especially the UCM in my mind) but the main thing for me is the gameplay - DzC has a lot of neat ideas, but for our group it didn't come together well enough into a fun game with good replayability to keep folks playing it. So more than whether or not the rules are novel... I'd really like to see if it looks fun to play.

If you watch the BoW video they say delivery will only be about six months out. The vast majority of all work is done, and the plastics production is ready barring capitol investment.

That's great, but is pretty much what I meant - and means I don't need to really think about this until AdeptiCon (if I decide to wait until retail - which makes sense since I want to see more on gameplay).

If they do offer a pledge manager I'll be tempted to put in a small pledge, though, even just for the rules to see how it plays.

 RiTides wrote:
That's great, but is pretty much what I meant - and means I don't need to really think about this until AdeptiCon (if I decide to wait until retail - which makes sense since I want to see more on gameplay).

If they do offer a pledge manager I'll be tempted to put in a small pledge, though, even just for the rules to see how it plays.

It will be after Adepticon. I would have thought that they would have been aiming for a Salute release in March but apparently it will be May/June before the plastics will be ready.

This looks like it may well be a revolutionary game with its novel, but extremely thematic, targeting mechanics and its 4 'levels' of play (although I'm not sure how ground combat will be handled in game). I think this will be my first ever little man related kickstarter.

I always assumed that Andy Chambers was Scottish.

I'm so pumped for Dropfleet! Multiple starter sets will be had...

Yeah, already budgeted for 2 starter sets for 2 different fleets, just to make sure I have a full army out of the gate. Then I should have enough by the time it launches to also pledge up for one of the early limited sculpts for the flagships.

When you consider that they're really trying to put a lot of the core ships into the starter boxes, it'll be a good way to get the game going faster than DZC did.

How are you budgeting for something you dont know the cost of (caveat: havent been able to watch the video since I mostly dakka at work). Also whats this about limited ed flagships??

Also, its my understanding that they would be kickstarting a 2 palyer starter set, is this no longer the case (Id actually prefer it if it was individual fleet starters instead of a 2 player, not interested in scourge, only UCM and presumably PHR once they show off what they look like.

I've budgeted a large sum of money in general, based on the idea that these being starters will probably cost around DZC starters, so $55-$100 retail.

The primary purpose of the kickstarter is to get the plastic 2 player starter box and starter fleets into production. UCM and Scourge will be the two in the 2 player starter, with Shaltari and PHR as stretch goals.

They also have kickstarter exclusive sculpts of ships not in the starters, but these will be functionally the same as the same ships released as normal sculpts later. In the video they specifically mention a Battlecruiser miniature, usable as a flagship, that's not part of the starters. This battlecruiser has the firepower of a battleship, but lacks the hull points, and the KS exclusive model has all its guns on the bottom of the ship instead of spread top and bottom.

So yeah, if you wanted individual starters, they've got you covered so long as they hit those stretch goals. I'm getting into Scourge and PHR, so I'm hoping they do have individual starters for all.

I wonder if, unlike the DZC starters, they plan to create the sprue for DFC to be much more modular, individual ships and their options on a sprue, instead of a starter box specific sprue. This way they can use the same sprues on retail shelves.

We also know that the frigates, the smallest ships, are getting a lot more options.