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Exalt, Krinsath. I am exalting so hard right now.

Its hit £350k so moar PHR for everyone.

I have managed to convince my wife that I really, really need more tiny little plastic space ships so I am now backer number 2428

Painted Shaltari.

I don't like the paint sheme, but they def. have their distinctive style which I love.

Holy hell, those are awesome. Gonna have to finish up my DZC Shaltari so I can make sure I've got cash to buy a ton of those ships.

They look pretty incredible painted up! Not my faction, but will be very happy to play against those

I think every faction is my faction

i'm all about PHR...
i like the way the ship turned out, under bite, braces, and all...
kinda Orky, but i'm cool with that...

i'm loving all the work that has gone into these minis, and it is so awesome to see how DZC has taken hold, and succeeded...
always nice to see good things being appreciated...

cheers
jah

I think the PHR ships look more like Armoured Kroot heads. ☺

The next set of stretch goals are up:

£370k – Activation card pack

£390k – (Free to all Backers) Deluxe rulebook extras for all rulebooks

£400k – UCMF Admiral T-shirt

£415k – (Free to all Backers) Desktop and screen saver assets download pack

£425k – (1 Free to each High Rank Backer) Civilian Cruise liner (ship and base)

£440k – Eden Prime Map pack

£460k – Deluxe cluster upgrade pack (resin)

£475k – Dropfleet Commander Poster range

£500k – Frigate Bonanza

£525k – ???

£550k – ???

£575k – ???

Final Day unlock: (Free to all Backers) Dropfleet Commander KS exclusive T-Shirt

The PHR ships remind me of whales.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
The PHR ships remind me of whales.

They do have a Right Whale or Sperm Whale feel about them from some angles

What is a "cluster"? Since they list a "cluster upgrade pack"?

 RiTides wrote:
What is a "cluster"? Since they list a "cluster upgrade pack"?

I may be wrong, but based on the BoW videos I believe that they are the objectives such as cities or space stations. A cluster has zones that troops are dropped on, and that's all the further the BoW video went.

Again, my memory may be off but I'd imagine that's what it refers to.

 Krinsath wrote:

I may be wrong, but based on the BoW videos I believe that they are the objectives such as cities or space stations. A cluster has zones that troops are dropped on, and that's all the further the BoW video went.

Basically. A cluster is a ground objective that has more than one component that needs to captured/subdued.

I'm not sure how ground resin elements are going to work when the ship flying bases will need to occupy the same space at times. Any thoughts on that?

 RiTides wrote:
I'm not sure how ground resin elements are going to work when the ship flying bases will need to occupy the same space at times. Any thoughts on that?

Troops are launched from a distance away from the objective (6' from strike carriers, 8 from Motherships IIRC) so I don't see it being an issue to be honest, expect perhaps if the ship is literally over the objective and won't be able to balance standing on it.

Also, there is now a free T shirt.

If there are a lot of objectives on the table, and a lot of ships, it definitely seems like they could end up occupying the same space! Maybe folks will do like in Warmachine and have a flat counter available for the objectives (which I assume is what will come in the box as standard, anyway) to swap in for any resin piece if a ship base needs to land in that area.

There are more pictures of Shaltari ships around. Those are absolutely fantastic!

There are more Shaltari pictures at natfkas blog: http://natfka.blogspot.ch/2015/11/massive-shaltari-pics-and-new-stretch.html




And there are also some more under the campaign page of the kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hawkwargames/dropfleet-commander?ref=users





Absolutely incredible!!!

Small tangeant, but anyone notice that shaltari have no Rhyme not reason to the names of their Anything?
Ships are named after Rocks or gems
Tanks are named after Weapons
Tanks are named after Gaters
But Gates are things like Eden, Havan and Gia
Seems kinda scatter brained.

Those are all UCM reporting names; like how Russian aircraft aren't really called "Foxbat", "Fulcrum" and "Fishbed".

Also, you missed the "blades" theme for the non-heavy tanks in the core rulebook.

Mind you, ships in the Royal Navy have been named after virtues, flowers, cities and tribes (and also at times, just left with whatever name they had when they were still in the French navy), so it seems reasonable.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Small tangeant, but anyone notice that shaltari have no Rhyme not reason to the names of their Anything?
Ships are named after Rocks or gems
Tanks are named after Weapons
Tanks are named after Gaters
But Gates are things like Eden, Havan and Gia
Seems kinda scatter brained.

Actually, they are consistent; most of the Shaltari vehicle names are for things (mostly) outside of Europe, and tend to have faint allusions to tribal / foreign cultures.

Tomahawks are axes used by the Native Americans
Kukris are knives used by the Indians and Nepalese, and is fairly common throughout South East Asia
A Caiman is a type of Alligator native to Central and South America
Tarantulas and Birdeaters are native to the Americas, Asia, Africa and some parts Southern Europe.
Ocelots, Birdeaters and Jaguars are also native to the Americas.

I will admit that the gates are the odd ones out. Perhaps they were trying to allude to the Earth or some sort of mysticism.

The ships being named after gems makes sense, as Shaltari vehicles have been likened to jewels.

Its not as if the UCM are any different; their tanks are named after sword and their aircraft angels.
Their scouts and their ground command unit are named after bears, and their aerial command unit is named after a mythological bird.
Their ships are named after major Earth cities.

I actually like the ship naming more than the normal DzC names . It does seem more uniform on its own so far, which is nice (and imo, doesn't have to match the ground force naming conventions - the earth cities for UCM ships being a great example). But yeah, Shaltari in DzC names seemed a bit scattered. I prefer their ship names

The PHR ships look alot like the Amarr ships in EVE-Online. Especially the Apocalypse and Armageddon classes of Amarr capital ships.

Having now seen the Shaltari ships from multiple angles, I do like them a bit better. Not sure I want a huge number of them, but I wouldn't mind a small fleet versus the likely-huge UCM and PHR fleets I'd like (I suppose this makes me a species-ist, since I'm preferring the human factions more).

This one is going to hurt my wallet so bad...

 RiTides wrote:
I actually like the ship naming more than the normal DzC names . It does seem more uniform on its own so far, which is nice (and imo, doesn't have to match the ground force naming conventions - the earth cities for UCM ships being a great example). But yeah, Shaltari in DzC names seemed a bit scattered. I prefer their ship names

Yeah, I do like how they use different naming conventions for the ground and land forces as well.
Naming the UCM ships after cities was a nice touch; they are big, iconic (in the eyes of the UCM public, no doubt) warships, so naming them after Terran cities, which in-universe surely must have some sort of mythical prestige makes a lot of sense.

Interesting to note that the Shaltari ships appear to have a larger version of the Gauss cannon on them.
Its probably going to hurt like hell.

Im gonna hold on to my Admiral pledge a bit longer while I think it over, but I think Im going to drop out of the campaign, or downgrade to Commodore. By way of comparison to other kickstarter campaigns, this one just doesn't generate all that much excitement in me (it might be because they have yet to post images or information for a good portion of the stretch goals and rules/gameplay, etc.). On top of that, Im not really interested with all the 'collectible' stuff the Admiral comes with. I just want UCM/PHR minis and relevant gameplay accessories basically.

If the mats were something other than paper though, I'd probably stick with it.

Who knows? That might still be coming/be in the works...

Aren't they still only making paper mats for DZC? I know other companies are making pretty much carbon copies of them (iirc there was a much delayed kickstarter for plastic tiles) in some form but I can't recall Hawk selling them direct. I don't expect them to make an official rubber playmat for this game and honestly I hope they focus on making sure the models launch firing all cylinders instead.

They could have gone with printed vinyl or fabric instead. They would cost more but are significantly more durable and will last a bell of a lot longer.