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Idea is to be able to absolutely demolish the meta winning serp+wraithknight list, whilst still being a strong contender against other lists.
Using only models I own (aside from the typhon - but defo looking at it for a january purchase).

Using only 1 primary + 1 allied. BA formation with 4 elites, +1I on the charge.

Sang Priest (with SG)
Jp

5 scouts
Power sword, melta bombs

5 scouts
Power sword, melta bombs

10 Sanguinary Guard
2 powerfists, chapterbanner, 5 sword, 3 axe

6 death co
Jps, powerfist, poweraxe

6 death co
Jps, powerfist, poweraxe

6 death co
Jps, powerfist, poweraxe

Sicaran battle tank
Lascannons, schism of mars, ceremite

Stormraven
Tl assault cannon, multimelta

Stormraven
Tl lascannon (glued unfortunately), multimelta

Typhon heavy seige tank
Ceremite

Knight Paladin

2499pts.

Sadly, I have no knowledge of any Forgeworld stuff.

Sicaran has 6 tl st7 rending shots which ignore jink as it's main armament. Lascannon side sponsoons. Schism of mars gives it tank hunter and 4+ against haywire. It is 13/12/12, fast with 3hp and with all the above plus ceremite it comes to 220pts.
The typhon is a LoW with a 7" ignores cover st10 ap1 primary weapon blast, it has 6hp and is 14 all round as well as being a super heavy. With ceremite it comes to 370pts.

If they are running sepernt spam, you'll get mowed down turn 1/2 before you get to them. You've got 32 marines at 2500 points.

Those scouts have wasted points as they'll never get close enough to use either the sword or MB's.

You're aiming to go up against eldar, and have a formation thatgives you +1 I, but you've taken power axes and power fists? A power maul would let you ignore most eldar armour and double out any multi wound characters, a sword would be wounding on 2's on the charge and still ignoring armour.

Power axes are still wounding Wraith knights on 6's, even on the charge, exactly the same as swords. Either spring for fists or go for swords so you don't waste your I5 on the charge.

You should be filling you heavy support with sicarans if you want to take out more than a couple of serpents IMHO. I assume he's running at least 5 or 6?

Poly Ranger wrote:
Sicaran has 6 tl st7 rending shots which ignore jink as it's main armament. Lascannon side sponsoons. Schism of mars gives it tank hunter and 4+ against haywire. It is 13/12/12, fast with 3hp and with all the above plus ceremite it comes to 220pts.
The typhon is a LoW with a 7" ignores cover st10 ap1 primary weapon blast, it has 6hp and is 14 all round as well as being a super heavy. With ceremite it comes to 370pts.

Is there a way for you to spam these units?

Drasius wrote:
If they are running sepernt spam, you'll get mowed down turn 1/2 before you get to them. You've got 32 marines at 2500 points.

Those scouts have wasted points as they'll never get close enough to use either the sword or MB's.

You're aiming to go up against eldar, and have a formation thatgives you +1 I, but you've taken power axes and power fists? A power maul would let you ignore most eldar armour and double out any multi wound characters, a sword would be wounding on 2's on the charge and still ignoring armour.

Power axes are still wounding Wraith knights on 6's, even on the charge, exactly the same as swords. Either spring for fists or go for swords so you don't waste your I5 on the charge.

You should be filling you heavy support with sicarans if you want to take out more than a couple of serpents IMHO. I assume he's running at least 5 or 6?

Good point about the powermaul over the axes and swords. The fists are in there because they are hidden and almost always get to strike as the wraithknights can't kill all the rest. The fists on jp models are also supreme at taking out serps, especially with FC.
The sicaran with schism will reliably eliminate a serp a turn, the typhon will seriously mess up 1 or 2 depending on the blast, the knight bullies serps with its move + D weapon assault (plus 2 st8 ordnance shots will be making a serp at least jink a turn). SG with a 2+/5+++ aren't too susceptible to the hrof eldar weaponary. The scouts an DC are though, you are correct, but if he's focusing on these he is completely ignoring the stuff which will be ruining his day.
Unfortunately BA can now only take 1 Sicaran per primary as we no longer have reclusiarches to unlock more.
May take off those MBs and powerswords as you suggest Drasius. Saves 40pts to be spent elsewhere...


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 Filch wrote:

Poly Ranger wrote:
Sicaran has 6 tl st7 rending shots which ignore jink as it's main armament. Lascannon side sponsoons. Schism of mars gives it tank hunter and 4+ against haywire. It is 13/12/12, fast with 3hp and with all the above plus ceremite it comes to 220pts.
The typhon is a LoW with a 7" ignores cover st10 ap1 primary weapon blast, it has 6hp and is 14 all round as well as being a super heavy. With ceremite it comes to 370pts.

Is there a way for you to spam these units?

Any SM force apart from BA can spam Sicarans as long as you have a MotF, Runepriest or whatever the DA equivalent is respectively.
The Typhon is a LoW so only 1 per primary.

Only 1 sicaran can have schism of mars though for he blessed tank hunter.