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Heck yeah, I'd love to see some plastic servitors. I am excited about the potential of this release, Admech has been one of my favorite forces all of these years and if this release is half-decent, they'll be competing with DE to see which army I'd like to build.

Tentatively excited, this is what I've always hoped for but it will be interesting to see how GW does Mechanicus compared to FW's Mechanicum releases.

 Sol Invictus wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:

 Sol Invictus wrote:

I'd be excited, but then I remember GW's publishing this.

I'm saying 2-3 units and HQ and transport/combat vehicle.

This. This is my greatest fear. I really hope Ad Mech doesn't turn out like Harlequins...

That was the size of the release some people claimed, but that could be the size of new units not counting stuff we have already like Servitors and Engineseers.

I realize that it will most likely be a smaller release which will still make me quite happy. It will just be a little disappointing when I think of all the awesomeness they could do with them.

Here's hoping for the best.

I look at it this way: a small release now could keep me from overspending on a new army until they expand out the codex some more. This is supposed to be a light release, a kind of Scion book to the later Ad Mech (making it the ally codex) if rumors are to be believed. If true I'll definitely be getting both in the long run.

 Redemption wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You can use them legitimately in Dark Heresy. I even wrote rules for the Magus' staff!

You mean for the Enemies Within for DH2?

No, the Lathe Worlds, the book that's all about the Ad Mech.

Ah, that one, of course. Currently playing a tech-priest from Selvanus Binary in a DH2 campaign, so was curious as the preview lists that one as a homeworld with a specific bonus.

Anyway, off topic and such.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
The binary was cute, but it makes me legitimately concerned for the quality of the content. It reminds me of the overbearing "they are really really robotical robots!" nonsense with 5E Necrons, like Phalanx 01100010 01110101 01110100 01110100 saying "beep boop" to their Lord, who replies with some extremely flat dialogue about how infinitely smart and cool the Necrons are.

Although I am always wary that something I am looking forward to may not be as great as I am hoping for, but I am not at all concerned because of the choice of messaging here in white dwarf. I thought it was funny that they chose to do that and fits perfectly. I am hoping that with the path taken by forgeworld with Mechanicum that we can expect some great designs for mechanicus. (Crossing fingers)

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Redemption wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You can use them legitimately in Dark Heresy. I even wrote rules for the Magus' staff!

You mean for the Enemies Within for DH2?

No, the Lathe Worlds, the book that's all about the Ad Mech.

More like an offshoot of the Ad Mech.

I wonder if they will be a straight Imperium army or will have their own Ally matrix. We were sorta denied Chaos/Renegade IG/AM, but the AdMech have a nice varied history of putting machines over loyalty.

Since I was called out for being a prat:

You know, it's been a while since I've even considered buying anything from GW. This Admech release will probably be my first purchase in five years.

Are we done the binary thing yet?

Hopefully the prices are reasonable. I only have $80 to spend on this release. Not even interested in the book, just want to paint.

The binary says "All hail Mars"

zeromaeus wrote:
The binary says "All hail Mars"

We've know that for quite some time...

 pretre wrote:

zeromaeus wrote:
The binary says "All hail Mars"

We've know that for quite some time...

No need to be a dick about it.

 Zewrath wrote:

 pretre wrote:

zeromaeus wrote:
The binary says "All hail Mars"

We've know that for quite some time...

No need to be a dick about it.

That was hardly me being a dick. But when something was posted pages ago and reposted many times, it helps to know that you're treading old ground.

migooo wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Redemption wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You can use them legitimately in Dark Heresy. I even wrote rules for the Magus' staff!

You mean for the Enemies Within for DH2?

No, the Lathe Worlds, the book that's all about the Ad Mech.

More like an offshoot of the Ad Mech.

Umm... no. The book's about the Ad Mech.

Now we're done with the Binary thing- do we have some nice shiny plastic crack pics to salivate over? You know, the ones that look like there's been a sudden earthquake at the time with a high beam light shone onto it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

migooo wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Redemption wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You can use them legitimately in Dark Heresy. I even wrote rules for the Magus' staff!

You mean for the Enemies Within for DH2?

No, the Lathe Worlds, the book that's all about the Ad Mech.

More like an offshoot of the Ad Mech.

Umm... no. The book's about the Ad Mech.

Yeah? What would you know?

The Lathe Worlds
Dark Heresy
Synopsis:
For ten thousand years, the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus have led the Cult of the Omnissiah. From their bastion Forges on the Lathe Worlds, they control all Holy Technology in the Calixis Sector.

The Lathe Worlds is a supplement for Dark Heresy that reveals the secret history of the Lathe Worlds, from their mysterious founding to their current struggles against tech-heresy. What’s more, players will gain access to new Alternate Careers such as the Mech-Assassin and Agent of the Lords Dragon, and arm themselves with weapons and gifts of the Omnissiah. And in a thrilling new adventure, your team will journey to a lost comet-station, where they’ll stop renegade tech-priests from heretical experiments into the Warp!

I think we're done here...

I'm well aware of what's in the book. I wrote some pretty big chunks of it.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Now we're done with the Binary thing- do we have some nice shiny plastic crack pics to salivate over? You know, the ones that look like there's been a sudden earthquake at the time with a high beam light shone onto it.

Next week perhaps. This week is a Khorne Daemon thing.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm well aware of what's in the book. I wrote some pretty big chunks of it.

Maybe your FFG sig needs to be in large flashy letters that sing and dance?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm well aware of what's in the book. I wrote some pretty big chunks of it.

Lol it wasn't for you mate- I know you wrote a lot of it!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm well aware of what's in the book. I wrote some pretty big chunks of it.

But it doesn't read that they are the same admech on Mars, I think it even mentions this. That each forge world is like a fiefdom and this is what I was referring too.

You know yes fine the book is about the Adeptus Mechanicus. However when I read it it felt like they were part but also a unique section of that label.

But if your going to jump on my neck for my interpretation that's fine.

So are we still in this whole "ad mech" is getting two books thing?

I really don't understand the reasoning behind this...unless the two books are codex and painting guide.

Your interpretation < the author's intent.


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 Schlyne wrote:
So are we still in this whole "ad mech" is getting two books thing?

I really don't understand the reasoning behind this...unless the two books are codex and painting guide.

Skitarri (the release coming up) might be a Scion-eske book mainly for allying a small faction of units to your army as a means to split the release between this and a bigger book later while also working as a self contained (though possibly not well-rounded) army.

Though I fully expect a book/painting guide with this release. That just fits GW perfectly.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Your interpretation < the author's intent.

Wow dude just wow.

So media that's published isn't open for interpretation? Is this the book that's now THE source on AM ?

the fact that it's fairly open that they were isolated, and have their own little secrets within the lathe worlds. Felt this way.

You know there's no need to be this way about it.

I had my opinions on the book, and he is here if he thinks I made the wrong opinion on the book fine but it's my opinion I'm not even sure those books are considered cannon if they are that's cool but if it was about the WHOLE of the AM instead of one fiefdom why was it called the lathe worlds instead of Sons of Mars or something?.

I choose to ignore forgotten realms spell plague 4e abomination also, I can use the book how I like can't I or should I check with you before I use something I bought and paid for for an imaginary game?

I also don't see signatures on this so my apologies. H.M.B.C.

migooo wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Your interpretation < the author's intent.

Wow dude just wow.

migooo wrote:
So media that's published isn't open for interpretation? Is this the book that's now THE source on AM ?

I never made either of those claims. I said that when discussing something with the author, what they were trying to do trumps what you decided it means. No need to be so upset about the idea that you can be wrong. Fekking hell, it's not that serious.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

migooo wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Your interpretation < the author's intent.

Wow dude just wow.

migooo wrote:
So media that's published isn't open for interpretation? Is this the book that's now THE source on AM ?

I never made either of those claims. I said that when discussing something with the author, what they were trying to do trumps what you decided it means. No need to be so upset about the idea that you can be wrong. Fekking hell, it's not that serious.

Sorry as I said I wasn't aware he was the author due to not seeing signatures or Avatars on this thing.

Look I'm a big believer in people using media however they want . I'm sorry if I went snippy my apologies to you and H.M.B.C

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agnosto wrote:I get the excitement but am I the only one that gets the feeling that the Imperium of man is note nearly teetering on the edge of collapse? I mean, how many IoM armies will there be with Admech released to fight the grand total of, what, 6? xenos armies?

In the grim darkness of the future, there are only human armies.

Firstly, it is a frequent misconception the adepts of the Omnissiah of Mars are part of the Imperium; the Mechanicus is a completely seperate entity, Mars has just been allied to Terra for millenia now.

Also, we're not human, we're post-human.

MajorStoffer wrote:I'd be excited, but then I remember GW's publishing this.

I'm saying 2-3 units and HQ and transport/combat vehicle.

Kind of like what happened with Knights, but backwards. Rather than GW making a shallow, pointless codex first and FW making something interesting out of it, FW made an interesting Mechanicum army, and GW will release some pale shadow of it with more aesthetically questionable models. The "human" armies have received pretty aesthetically awful models for quite some time now, the decent looking stuff is pretty much xeno-only at this point for new releases.

Cog, why are you in the hobby at all if you're this miserable? FW or GW, it's the same company. New releases, new codex, whine, whine! And that's not the whine of my engine cogitators.

I'd be excited, but then I remember GW's publishing this.

I'm saying 2-3 units and HQ and transport/combat vehicle.

This. This is my greatest fear. I really hope Ad Mech doesn't turn out like Harlequins...

Entirely new codex, tons of new art, fun ruleset, true to old fluff, amazing new models... yeah, they mucked that one up bad.

Accolade wrote:Heck yeah, I'd love to see some plastic servitors. I am excited about the potential of this release, Admech has been one of my favorite forces all of these years and if this release is half-decent, they'll be competing with DE to see which army I'd like to build.

Tentatively excited, this is what I've always hoped for but it will be interesting to see how GW does Mechanicus compared to FW's Mechanicum releases.

You've liked Mechanicus all theses years and you're excited by plastic... Servitors?

Requizen wrote:I wonder if they will be a straight Imperium army or will have their own Ally matrix. We were sorta denied Chaos/Renegade IG/AM, but the AdMech have a nice varied history of putting machines over loyalty.

We're allied to the Imperium of Man, not part of it.

also, it's Technology over loyalty.

Who wouldn't be excited about cheaper and easier to build Servitors?

I mean at least Servitors don't complain about needing breaks or sleep or try and form unions.

Well there was that one time but we don't talk about that.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Skitarri (the release coming up) might be a Scion-eske book mainly for allying a small faction of units to your army as a means to split the release between this and a bigger book later while also working as a self contained (though possibly not well-rounded) army.

Though I fully expect a book/painting guide with this release. That just fits GW perfectly.

While it may sound strange for someone that someone as AdMech-obsessed as me, I really don't want two books. Spreading the army thin over multiple books is kinda what kills Chaos (and what makes armies like the DA's and BA's so... perfunctory!). If it's not someone getting their wires crossed, and the second book is just a painting guide, then hopefully it's an easily ignorable Scion-esque book.

migooo wrote:
I also don't see signatures on this so my apologies. H.M.B.C.

No need to apologise man. The Lathe Worlds is a book that covers two things: The Ad Mech in general, and the Ad Mech as they are in the Calixis Sector. The two co-exist, and it would be right to assume that the Ad Mech vary across many different Forge Worlds. The Galaxy is a big place after all, and just like the greater Imperium, not everything is homogeneous.