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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 13:17:48
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Frozen Ocean wrote: Azreal13 wrote: Frozen Ocean wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:And Dreadknights and Wraithknights. All we need now is a Knightknight!
The Wraithknight is cool! Plus "Wraith" as a prefix is a theme with Eldar already, to the point where it being called something else would be rather strange. The only thing that's a little off with the "knight" part is that it's superior to the Wraith"lord", but that's because "knight" in 40k has a history of meaning "big scary almost-Titans".
Dreadknight isn't that bad of a name. It was when it first came out, but now we have Helbrutes and Stormwolves, and Fantasy has the fantastic Wrathmongers. Let's not forget Murderfang and all that entails. The problem with the Dreadknight is that it's the "Nemesis" Dreadknight, with Nemesis Nemesis Nemesis Nemesis. Nemesis isn't even a keyword that makes sense for Grey Knights! Also doomfists... and psilencers.
He's showing Offline, so I will respond on HBMC's behalf to just mention that he writes material for the 40K RPG, he literally earns money writing background for 40K, so is probably the last person who needs a brief on naming conventions on the whole of Dakka.
As for the Nemesis thing, it actually makes sense because they are, theoretically, built from the ground up to fight one enemy, and excel at destroying them.
There are very few keywords that don't have a link to the faction they're associated with, it's the overuse of any one term that starts to sound a little like parody.
I wasn't suggesting that H.B.M.C. didn't know about those things. Writer or not, it'd be difficult not to. I was just musing that the Dreadknight's name has started to sound much sweeter with the naming conventions that proceeded it (that's not to say that it all came after, the Blood Angels and Space Wolves being the worst offenders on that front).
I'm fairly certain that "Nemesis" was thrown in purely because it's a cool word, even if it doesn't fit the pre-established theming. Everything with the Grey Knights has a holy theme, a knight theme (not very much, perhaps because this is fairly widespread among Space Marines), or a psyker theme. Force weapons are inherently psyker weapons, so giving them a psyker-themed name wouldn't be special. They're mostly bladed weapons, so a knight sword wouldn't do it either. That leaves the holy theme, which fits perfectly - they were meant to banish daemons, after all. Nemesis sounds more Dark Eldar. I can totally imagine a Dark Eldar "Nemesis pistol" firing some kind of suitably nasty ammunition.
The other keywords are a lot more straightforward, even within the Grey Knights. Your explanation makes sense, but I doubt that it was the intent behind the name.
I'm honestly not trying to nitpick or anything like that but just because I'm old enough to remember it, Grey Knights have been using "Nemesis" force weapons since GW first introduced them.
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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 14:34:57
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Winged Kroot Vulture
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I feel like an addict who just walked into a factory of my vice.
This would be tempting enough for me to get back into to 40k...maybe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:13:57
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Ratius wrote:I hope whatever heavy Admech get isnt another two legged, humanoid-esque walker to be honest.
Some sort of tracked vehicle would be much more interesting and appealing - something akin to the Kaban machine or a variation thereof.
Or even a crawler of somesort, variation of brass scorpion of khorne or the FW necron multi legged bug.
TRIPODS!!!!one!!!
TRI!!!!!
PODS!!!!
Geeze now I'll be disappointed with anything else.
(Oh and and Adeptus Arbites Codex)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:18:06
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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As long as we don't get anything as silly as Nemesis DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMFISTS, Murderfang or that recent Khorne guy where every second word is blood, I think we'll be ok.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:18:48
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Techwalkers with Techguns and Techfields.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:19:58
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Uggh! Even Kan's piling on.
Please don't such AdMech Codex. Please don't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:22:28
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Techwalkers with Techguns and Techmissiles!
TECHBOLTERS!
Please don't such AdMech Codex. Please don't.
I don't think you will really have to worry about it; despite your insistence of how bad Bloodwrath was.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:26:03
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Mechy mech mech of planet Unicron
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:26:15
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
Sheppey, England
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Ratius wrote:Some sort of tracked vehicle would be much more interesting and appealing - something akin to the Kaban machine or a variation thereof.
Good call on the Kaban machine. I'd love to see some 40k rules for something like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:30:42
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Adeptus Mechanicus Skittari Guard
WS3, BS4, S3, T3, W1, I3, A1, Ld 7, Sv4+
Armed with Techno Armor (4+ 6++), Techno Rifles (MC lasguns) and Techno Grendads (count as frag and haywire)
Special Rule - Techno Shielding (Immune to Rad grenades, because why the #$%^ not)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:33:41
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Adeptus Mechanicus Skittari Guard
WS3, BS4, S3, T3, W1, I3, A1, Ld 7, Sv4+
Armed with Techno Armor (4+ 6++), Techno Rifles ( MC lasguns) and Techno Grendads (count as frag and haywire)
Special Rule - Techno Shielding (Immune to Rad grenades, because why the #$%^ not)
Dafaq is a Grendad?
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:39:07
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Inspiring Icon Bearer
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I believe it was an old, old wooden ship used during civil war times (ACW to you non-'Muricans!)
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One of them filthy casuals... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:49:32
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Leaping Khawarij
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godswildcard wrote:
I believe it was an old, old wooden ship used during civil war times (ACW to you non-'Muricans!)
mc just means re roll ? or +1 str now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:51:56
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Adeptus Mechanicus Skittari Guard
WS3, BS4, S3, T3, W1, I3, A1, Ld 7, Sv4+
Armed with Techno Armor (4+ 6++), Techno Rifles ( MC lasguns) and Techno Grendads (count as frag and haywire)
Special Rule - Techno Shielding (Immune to Rad grenades, because why the #$%^ not)
Honestly I'm hoping that they're less "Guardsmen with some tech and implants" and more like the Skittari in the Titanicus novel by Abnett. Humans bred for hundreds of generations for certain aspects to the point where they're somewhere between humans and ogryns and then outfitted with all kinds of implants and augmentations.
The guardsmen in the book freaked the feth out when they first bumped into the Skittari, thinking that they were some chaos monstrosity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 15:56:02
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Leaping Khawarij
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Deadawake1347 wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote:Adeptus Mechanicus Skittari Guard
WS3, BS4, S3, T3, W1, I3, A1, Ld 7, Sv4+
Armed with Techno Armor (4+ 6++), Techno Rifles ( MC lasguns) and Techno Grendads (count as frag and haywire)
Special Rule - Techno Shielding (Immune to Rad grenades, because why the #$%^ not)
Honestly I'm hoping that they're less "Guardsmen with some tech and implants" and more like the Skittari in the Titanicus novel by Abnett. Humans bred for hundreds of generations for certain aspects to the point where they're somewhere between humans and ogryns and then outfitted with all kinds of implants and augmentations.
The guardsmen in the book freaked the feth out when they first bumped into the Skittari, thinking that they were some chaos monstrosity.
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Would be nice especially if you wanted to do a Chaos version.
we had the Archon leaks like 2 weeks before, the Harliequins the sat before. when I don't see something sooner than later it is kinda scary..
March and April are really going to tap me out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 16:41:43
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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Someone found GW's page early. The video was down but I screen capped it:
Translation:
Enemy sighted, reinforcements inbound.
Return: 27th March for further information
Praise the Omnissiah!
GW is having fun with this binary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 16:42:45
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Good detective work. Now, whilst Kyoto travels to the future you must travel to the past to a time before that video was removed.
Go!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 16:43:37
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Good detective work. Now, whilst Kyoto travels to the future you must travel to the past to a time before that video was removed.
Go!
I'll need Ordos Chronus for that, but they vanished chasing the Doctor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 16:44:12
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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ClockworkZion wrote:Someone found GW's page early. The video was down but I screen capped it:
Translation:
Enemy sighted, reinforcements inbound.
Return: 27th March for further information
Praise the Omnissiah!
GW is having fun with this binary.
Hnnnng...
So it's real then?
Mother of God!
By the Machine God!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 16:44:50
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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The video technically isn't removed; just locked.
They've had the issue before where people found the videos and posted them up before they were locked/hidden.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 16:49:15
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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Kanluwen wrote:The video technically isn't removed; just locked.
They've had the issue before where people found the videos and posted them up before they were locked/hidden.
YouTube says "removed" which is why I went with that.
Anyways, here's the URL to it for those who like to obsessively refresh for the weekend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgw9cGk5zqc
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 19:42:40
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Bull0 wrote:Interestingly there's nothing in the GW website terms of use that prohibits the use of a spider or any other automated tools to scrape their site. That's a bit of a surprise.
They let someone convince them that they needed to spend four million pounds on a barely-functional, bare-bones webcart. That's not surprising at all.
The dude married to your grenmaw?
I find myself cautiously optimistic on this release... Aside from the (unreleased) electropriests, GW's AdMech models have historically been pretty cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 20:13:53
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Leaping Khawarij
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Grendad sounds like Grendels Dad?? Or some kind of horned pagan God thing.
Please be cool, please be cool
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 20:39:15
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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I can't belive how under wraps GW is kept this. Why hasn't that guy who posted the white dwarf binary, leaked the rest of that white dwarf! XD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 20:40:21
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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Lockark wrote:I can't belive how under wraps GW is kept this. Why hasn't that guy who posted the white dwarf binary, leaked the rest of that white dwarf! XD
White Dwarf binary is at the end of the WD that was full of Khorne stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 20:43:15
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Leaping Khawarij
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Lockark wrote:I can't belive how under wraps GW is kept this. Why hasn't that guy who posted the white dwarf binary, leaked the rest of that white dwarf! XD
If we are really lucky it will be something tomorrow or Sunday, if not its going to be Monday - Wed I'm expecting a GW video Monday though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 22:45:59
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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It's funny that GW is doing all this binary stuff for Admech (and Necrons previously), given that we are already researching quantum computing 38,000 years before 40k, and I'm pretty sure quantum computing makes binary obsolete.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 22:53:05
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Commander Jimbob wrote:It's funny that GW is doing all this binary stuff for Admech (and Necrons previously), given that we are already researching quantum computing 38,000 years before 40k, and I'm pretty sure quantum computing makes binary obsolete.
I always felt the admec's writing would look like bar codes or qr codes. Fitting as much data into as small a space as possible. Unable to be read with out bar code scanner eye implants.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 23:33:16
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Hey got a question for you future Admech guys, will you be priming (spray) silver, then painting red where needed, or priming red and then painting silver? What typically looks better? Any recommendations on sprays to use for Admech stuff? (Both for silver and red)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/20 23:54:50
Subject: Admech Skitarii for 40k?
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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ultimentra wrote:Hey got a question for you future Admech guys, will you be priming (spray) silver, then painting red where needed, or priming red and then painting silver? What typically looks better? Any recommendations on sprays to use for Admech stuff? (Both for silver and red)
What I do is:
-Prime Black
-Drybrush Silver
-Drybush and block in secondary metals
-Paint in the reds/cloth
-Wash
-High-lighting/light dry brushing in larger areas of metal to bring back some shin from the wash.
I also only use brush-on primers.
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