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The Dragoon also has a 5+ cover stock. That ain't half bad. With their speed, cheap sticker price, and cover save, some of them might actually make it into combat. and... up to 6 in a unit!

 Kanluwen wrote:
Rangers/Vanguard are what Scions should have been.

Opposite opinion: I think they compliment each other very well. Both are cheapish troops with moderate saves, with Scions focusing on close/mid range shooting and blitzkrieg (Deep Strike, Grav Chute insertion, fast vehicles), while the Skitarii are the long range equivalents (basic guns on the Rangers are 30", lots of 24"+ special weapons, Sniper variants). Putting them together is going to be my thing, I think.

Ya know what, I take back what I said earlier. I really like these models.

Those visored Vanguard helmets with greatcoats make me think of Arbites.. Remove the backpacks, give them some shotguns and shields, maybe replace the legs..

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
The walkers...

The pilots, leaning forward making Rawr I'm A T-Rex pose!

T-Rex Servitor?

did the doctrina imperatives rules got leaked 6

It seems like it is a really important rules

The walkers look like they should be brought as a unit instead of individually, but they're a bit on the expensive side per model... thankfully the Rangers are relatively cheap boxes.

So we have 2 troop choices. The one dragoon is a fast attack, the Ironstrider is a Heavy Support. Between the two spider walkers ones a transport the other a tank, the latter likely being a heavy support choice. Not quite a full army yet.

Is it just me or do the helmets resemble those worn by the Adeptus Arbites?

EDIT: those on the skitarii vanguard

 aka_mythos wrote:
So we have 2 troop choices. The one dragoon is a fast attack, the Ironstrider is a Heavy Support. Between the two spider walkers ones a transport the other a tank, the latter likely being a heavy support choice. Not quite a full army yet.

It was already said that the Skitarii book is going to be a mini-dex like Harlies, who also don't have an HQ. Will probably just be formations and/or a special detachment that's used for allying and what not instead of a full FOC.

75 pts for a twin-linked lascannon that hits Fliers on 5+ is pretty decent. I think there is a lot to like about this army. The models are also gorgeous.


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Requizen wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
So we have 2 troop choices. The one dragoon is a fast attack, the Ironstrider is a Heavy Support. Between the two spider walkers ones a transport the other a tank, the latter likely being a heavy support choice. Not quite a full army yet.

It was already said that the Skitarii book is going to be a mini-dex like Harlies, who also don't have an HQ. Will probably just be formations and/or a special detachment that's used for allying and what not instead of a full FOC.

The Ranger and Vanguard Alpha are likely going to be the HQ of the dex, like the Harlie Troupe Master. They have 2 wounds and can take Relics of Mars so it's comparable

 aka_mythos wrote:
So we have 2 troop choices. The one dragoon is a fast attack, the Ironstrider is a Heavy Support. Between the two spider walkers ones a transport the other a tank, the latter likely being a heavy support choice. Not quite a full army yet.

Really only missing an HQ or a special FOC to be a legal army.

However ai did notice something: no rules for taking a spider tank as a DT.

The pack of rules despite getting the image of the thing makes me wonder as well.

Requizen wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
So we have 2 troop choices. The one dragoon is a fast attack, the Ironstrider is a Heavy Support. Between the two spider walkers ones a transport the other a tank, the latter likely being a heavy support choice. Not quite a full army yet.

It was already said that the Skitarii book is going to be a mini-dex like Harlies, who also don't have an HQ. Will probably just be formations and/or a special detachment that's used for allying and what not instead of a full FOC.

So, not familiar with how the Harlie dex worked, how will this work for AdMech?

Holy gak I am so fething hard right now. This is so amazing. I can't wait to try out various combos with Guard Valkyries, Drop Pods, ICs, etc.

AAAAAUUUGGGHHH.

These look AWESOME.

Looks like I'm diving back into 40k.

So they finally made cooler infantry models than the Scions... And that chickenwalker is so old-school rogue trader it hurts. I NEED all these models.

Have there been any rumoured hq choices?

These look brilliant! I can see them flying off the shelves too, so many people with imperial armies will be able to ally these in very quickly.

I've been very impressed with GW over the last few months. I hope they keep this up.

 ProtoClone wrote:

Requizen wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
So we have 2 troop choices. The one dragoon is a fast attack, the Ironstrider is a Heavy Support. Between the two spider walkers ones a transport the other a tank, the latter likely being a heavy support choice. Not quite a full army yet.

It was already said that the Skitarii book is going to be a mini-dex like Harlies, who also don't have an HQ. Will probably just be formations and/or a special detachment that's used for allying and what not instead of a full FOC.

So, not familiar with how the Harlie dex worked, how will this work for AdMech?

A special FOC or formations will be used to field the army if that's how the take it.

That said, these are two nice kits and pretty good sized too and we know there is at least one more big kit on the horizon. Makes me wonder how many clamshells we may get (if any).

I find it hard to believe that there won't be HQ choices;

The fact they are releasing two kits to start with should be a good indication that there are a lot of kits coming up.

On a related note, I could see Knights as LOW in the book; looking at the design of the walker legs, they are identical to the design of the knight, and I imagine we will soon be seeing a Knight painted up in this new dark red/tan color scheme.

The new lot of pictures have me very relieved. That Dragoon is exactly what I was hoping for from this - the silhouette looks like something lurking in the back of a Blanche sketch. Legs seem fully articulated too going on the two builds we've seen. Skitarii look great too, especially the rangers IMO. Hopefully we'll see some troops closer to the more post-human interpretation of the Skitarii in the guise of elite Praetorians, to please both schools of thinking.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
I find it hard to believe that there won't be HQ choices;

The fact they are releasing two kits to start with should be a good indication that there are a lot of kits coming up.

On a related note, I could see Knights as LOW in the book; looking at the design of the walker legs, they are identical to the design of the knight, and I imagine we will soon be seeing a Knight painted up in this new dark red/tan color scheme.

Who says there won't be?

Is it time for a tactics thread already since we have a lot of the rules in front of us? I am honestly confused about the Arquebus as well, it seems to me that the Arc Rifle and getting in close is the obvious choice.

I don't actively dislike them.

And that's the nicest thing I've said about GW prime since...uh, the SM release?

For me though, Kasrkin counts-as Skitarii ahoy. Stormtroopers which don't suck!

Ok I was a bit iffy on the Skitarii at first... but after seeing a whole squad of Rangers + the Vanguard models I am sold.

And the two walkers? Great! I like them.

So the spider tank must be a future release, then?

 ultimentra wrote:
Is it time for a tactics thread already since we have a lot of the rules in front of us? I am honestly confused about the Arquebus as well, it seems to me that the Arc Rifle and getting in close is the obvious choice.

Missing that one rule the rangers have.

Probably way early for tactics.

Dem Gears!

I am totally in to all of this. Anyone want to buy some Tyranids?

Really ties in to the Goodwin Guard I've been slowly working on.

migooo wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
I find it hard to believe that there won't be HQ choices;

The fact they are releasing two kits to start with should be a good indication that there are a lot of kits coming up.

On a related note, I could see Knights as LOW in the book; looking at the design of the walker legs, they are identical to the design of the knight, and I imagine we will soon be seeing a Knight painted up in this new dark red/tan color scheme.

Who says there won't be?

People speculating that we will only get what has been leaked today. I'm optimistic!

I really like the sniper guy with the gun stand on the big base. And the guy wired into the front of the walker.

OK, I'm moving back from "Meh" to "DEFCON Cautious Optimism" based purely on the newer walker kit, because THAT is exactly the kind of freakish-body-horror-meets-transhuman-gothic-dystopia I want to see in my crazy machine-worshipping bros.

The infantry could go either way; it looks like the coat-tails might be part of the torsos rather than moulded on to the legs, in which case there's every chance a bit of chopping, some Catachan arms, and those Vanguard helmeted heads might save the kit for those of us in the techno-barbarian camp.

I do think it's potentially worrying that they've apparently decided it's necessary to create entirely new types of infantry when there were already multiple types covering all battlefield roles in the fluff, with more interesting names, but eh.