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Because the armourbane sniper rifle should also get rending from the sniper rule, right? If either dice can give a bonus to penetration, that seems like a viable anti-tank gun.
Because the armourbane sniper rifle should also get rending from the sniper rule, right? If either dice can give a bonus to penetration, that seems like a viable anti-tank gun.
Snipers don't rend in 7th.
2015/03/23 22:21:11
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
On the very low chance they have Necrons even one step less than Come the Apocalyse and thus not needing a 12 inch deployment buffer, I'll be even more overhyped about these things.
Probably not because Armies of the Imperium is just one big homogenous mass, but it would be fluffy for them to be a little more thawed towards them.
Well crap, I was kinda saving for harlequins... No more.
DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+ Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
QM Templates here, HH army builder app for both v1 and v2 One Page 40k Ruleset for Game Beginners
2015/03/23 22:28:10
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right.
I must say, I really like the walkers... a lot. I get why others might not, but I really do.
If the rules are decent and I can use them as counts as in 30k AdMech... I might get quite a few.
DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+ Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
QM Templates here, HH army builder app for both v1 and v2 One Page 40k Ruleset for Game Beginners
IRONY: Two armies with AM as shorthand? Adeptus Mechanicus and Astra Militarius or whatever they are calling Imperial Guard these days.
It's not as bad as you think. Astra Militarum is abbrvieated to IG
AdMech and AM or AdM and AM or AMS and AM?
DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+ Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
QM Templates here, HH army builder app for both v1 and v2 One Page 40k Ruleset for Game Beginners
2015/03/23 22:31:37
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
These have got to be some of the ugliest GW models I have ever seen, and I've been in this hobby 25+ years.
When I first saw those infantry models, I thought the Chaos cultists were getting their box set at last.
And those walkers - it reminds me of a sparrow's leg!
Very poor GW. Very poor.
What puzzles me is the reaction from other posters. It's like the scene in Spinal Tap where they get to see the new album cover (it's completely black) and everybody trying to justify how great it is, when in fact it's plain black.
The Dark Elves got a lot of criticism when they got new models. Dark Elves got shot down in flames. and Grey Knights nearly provoked a riot on this forum when they got new stuff a while ago
And yet, people look at these models as though it was the plastic thunderhawk!!
Ultimately, it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, but people some so desperate for this new faction, that they seem to have suspended their critical thinking on this one, which is unlike dakka.
My two pence.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Because the armourbane sniper rifle should also get rending from the sniper rule, right? If either dice can give a bonus to penetration, that seems like a viable anti-tank gun.
1) Snipers no longer rend
2) Even if they did, rending doesn't give AP2 vs vehicles, so at best you're knocking off 1 HP and a gun.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: These have got to be some of the ugliest GW models I have ever seen, and I've been in this hobby 25+ years.
When I first saw those infantry models, I thought the Chaos cultists were getting their box set at last.
And those walkers - it reminds me of a sparrow's leg!
Very poor GW. Very poor.
What puzzles me is the reaction from other posters. It's like the scene in Spinal Tap where they get to see the new album cover (it's completely black) and everybody trying to justify how great it is, when in fact it's plain black.
The Dark Elves got a lot of criticism when they got new models. Dark Elves got shot down in flames. and Grey Knights nearly provoked a riot on this forum when they got new stuff a while ago
And yet, people look at these models as though it was the plastic thunderhawk!!
Ultimately, it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, but people some so desperate for this new faction, that they seem to have suspended their critical thinking on this one, which is unlike dakka.
My two pence.
Or, most everybody but you actually loves the models and think they look amazing? Nah, must be "suspension of critical thinking"...
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Awww come on! I needed these a year ago when I started painting my IG up in flavors of the Fallout 3 and New Vegas flavors. Dang it. That's NCR Veteran Rangers point for point.
Not to mention B. O. S. scribes... *goes off grumbling again*
My beloved 40K armies:
Children of Stirba Order of Saint Pan Thera
Ultimately, it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, but people some so desperate for this new faction, that they seem to have suspended their critical thinking on this one, which is unlike dakka.
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2015/03/23 22:39:41
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: These have got to be some of the ugliest GW models I have ever seen, and I've been in this hobby 25+ years.
When I first saw those infantry models, I thought the Chaos cultists were getting their box set at last.
And those walkers - it reminds me of a sparrow's leg!
Very poor GW. Very poor.
What puzzles me is the reaction from other posters. It's like the scene in Spinal Tap where they get to see the new album cover (it's completely black) and everybody trying to justify how great it is, when in fact it's plain black.
The Dark Elves got a lot of criticism when they got new models. Dark Elves got shot down in flames. and Grey Knights nearly provoked a riot on this forum when they got new stuff a while ago
And yet, people look at these models as though it was the plastic thunderhawk!!
Ultimately, it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, but people some so desperate for this new faction, that they seem to have suspended their critical thinking on this one, which is unlike dakka.
My two pence.
Or, most everybody but you actually loves the models and think they look amazing? Nah, must be "suspension of critical thinking"...
Taking an existing model (Death Korps of Krieg) and putting some spikes on them, is not great design. I could do that!!
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/03/23 22:40:25
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: These have got to be some of the ugliest GW models I have ever seen, and I've been in this hobby 25+ years.
When I first saw those infantry models, I thought the Chaos cultists were getting their box set at last.
And those walkers - it reminds me of a sparrow's leg!
Very poor GW. Very poor.
What puzzles me is the reaction from other posters. It's like the scene in Spinal Tap where they get to see the new album cover (it's completely black) and everybody trying to justify how great it is, when in fact it's plain black.
The Dark Elves got a lot of criticism when they got new models. Dark Elves got shot down in flames. and Grey Knights nearly provoked a riot on this forum when they got new stuff a while ago
And yet, people look at these models as though it was the plastic thunderhawk!!
Ultimately, it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, but people some so desperate for this new faction, that they seem to have suspended their critical thinking on this one, which is unlike dakka.
My two pence.
I agree with you completely, honestly this is the worse release to date IMO (to each there own) but the walkers pilots seriously look like the gyro cycle from south park man do you guys not see it?!
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That sort of weird stuff happens in devastator and sternguard as well. It is not uncommon to get more special weapons with smaller size squads
thing to remember is that there's a 10 point Sergent tax (the skitari Prime has an extra wound and an extra attack as well as LDR 9 so it's proably worth the points) so 2 5 person squads will cost more then 1 ten man squad even before upgrades
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2015/03/23 22:41:14
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
Ultimately, it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, but people some so desperate for this new faction, that they seem to have suspended their critical thinking on this one, which is unlike dakka.
That, or some people like stuff that you don't...
Like I said, Death Korps of Krieg with spiky bits, or chaos cultists with some metal tacked on. Usually, by this stage, somebody else has pointed that out.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
The latter also costs 25 points more in fairness, as you pay 10 point sergeant tax and for the extra gun.
The real issue is delivering these units. You can ally to get other transports but really... what are these guys doing which guard aren't (other than looking cool)?
2015/03/23 22:41:52
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: These have got to be some of the ugliest GW models I have ever seen, and I've been in this hobby 25+ years.
When I first saw those infantry models, I thought the Chaos cultists were getting their box set at last.
And those walkers - it reminds me of a sparrow's leg!
Very poor GW. Very poor.
What puzzles me is the reaction from other posters. It's like the scene in Spinal Tap where they get to see the new album cover (it's completely black) and everybody trying to justify how great it is, when in fact it's plain black.
The Dark Elves got a lot of criticism when they got new models. Dark Elves got shot down in flames. and Grey Knights nearly provoked a riot on this forum when they got new stuff a while ago
And yet, people look at these models as though it was the plastic thunderhawk!!
Ultimately, it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, but people some so desperate for this new faction, that they seem to have suspended their critical thinking on this one, which is unlike dakka.
My two pence.
With all due respect, that's a bit harsh. I've been building/painting GW kits for more than a decade and these hit the nail on the head for me in terms of aesthetics. As you said, everyone has an opinion, but don't presume to speak for all other hobbyists out here who actually may like the release. I know I do.
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I agree with you completely, honestly this is the worse release to date IMO (to each there own) but the walkers pilots seriously look like the gyro cycle from south park man do you guys not see it?!
Yes, about 4 other people have also seen it...
Honestly loving these new models. The amount of detail on the troops is superb and I love the intricate design of their equipment.
2015/03/23 22:43:52
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
Ultimately, it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, but people some so desperate for this new faction, that they seem to have suspended their critical thinking on this one, which is unlike dakka.
That, or some people like stuff that you don't...
It must be exhausting to be in a constant state of smug surprise at the differing choices of people around you. "Diet _pepsi_? What kind of a madhouse have I walked in to here?!?"
2015/03/23 22:44:21
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
Saw the new pics now. Incredible. Abso-fething-incredible.
Love all of it. ALL OF IT. Gods, what a release.
"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill
2015/03/23 22:45:17
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: These have got to be some of the ugliest GW models I have ever seen, and I've been in this hobby 25+ years.
When I first saw those infantry models, I thought the Chaos cultists were getting their box set at last.
And those walkers - it reminds me of a sparrow's leg!
Very poor GW. Very poor.
What puzzles me is the reaction from other posters. It's like the scene in Spinal Tap where they get to see the new album cover (it's completely black) and everybody trying to justify how great it is, when in fact it's plain black.
The Dark Elves got a lot of criticism when they got new models. Dark Elves got shot down in flames. and Grey Knights nearly provoked a riot on this forum when they got new stuff a while ago
And yet, people look at these models as though it was the plastic thunderhawk!!
Ultimately, it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, but people some so desperate for this new faction, that they seem to have suspended their critical thinking on this one, which is unlike dakka.
My two pence.
With all due respect, that's a bit harsh. I've been building/painting GW kits for more than a decade and these hit the nail on the head for me in terms of aesthetics. As you said, everyone has an opinion, but don't presume to speak for all other hobbyists out here who actually may like the release. I know I do.
I agree with you. At the end of the day, my opinion is worth just the same as yours, but it just feels like lazy design, as though no effort has been made.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/03/23 22:46:19
Subject: Re:Admech Skitarii for 40k. pics p#23 &31
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: These have got to be some of the ugliest GW models I have ever seen, and I've been in this hobby 25+ years.
When I first saw those infantry models, I thought the Chaos cultists were getting their box set at last.
And those walkers - it reminds me of a sparrow's leg!
Very poor GW. Very poor.
What puzzles me is the reaction from other posters. It's like the scene in Spinal Tap where they get to see the new album cover (it's completely black) and everybody trying to justify how great it is, when in fact it's plain black.
The Dark Elves got a lot of criticism when they got new models. Dark Elves got shot down in flames. and Grey Knights nearly provoked a riot on this forum when they got new stuff a while ago
And yet, people look at these models as though it was the plastic thunderhawk!!
Ultimately, it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, but people some so desperate for this new faction, that they seem to have suspended their critical thinking on this one, which is unlike dakka.
My two pence.
I agree with you completely, honestly this is the worse release to date IMO (to each there own) but the walkers pilots seriously look like the gyro cycle from south park man do you guys not see it?!
Have you been ignoring th past five pages? That reference was made immediately when the model was shown!
Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 
Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 
Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 
Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 
Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 
Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 
Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 
Crimson Tide 59-4-0 
Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 
Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 
BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 
IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 
RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 
Children of Stirba 
Order of Saint Pan Thera 
Morat Noob 
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