Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k new pics p162

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**Medium of Death**

In the grim darkness of the 41st Millenium there is only technobondage...

**Hulksmash**

Leth wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
Good catch with the old models - I have missed where the prices where?

Admech Skitarii – 10 minis can be built as Rangers or Vanguard. £23.50/€31 - about 40 bucks

Admech Ironstrider £29.50/€38 - about 50(I think)

All in all pretty reasonable prices considering all the BITS....so many bits.

Honestly from what it looks like 1 kit could easily go a long way towards converting a few more of them.

While I am on the fence about the walkers ability to be played(rules wise they are very good walkers, however wave serpents.......) but that movement speed and bs 2 twin-linked snapfire is pretty powerful. Combined with a FIXED movement speed boost in every phase. 9 inch basic move, around a 10 inch charge or 6-7 inch run. They are SUPER mobile.

Is that box for the Strider for 1 or 2? I'm probably pushing it hoping for 2 but if it's one I don't think I'll ever field the unit I was considering

The regular troops on the other hand I'm grabbing 4-5 boxes off the bat.

**ORicK**

I do agree that not all old models were good models hahaha...
Most are better now, but not all.

Because there were great ones...
The 2nd wave of Orks, individual models with plastic (or metal or bionic) arms are still among the most beautifull ork models ever made.
Only Rackham made a few that rivaled these and that was primarily because it was the same graphic designer.

Eldar Aspect Warriors have not changed or improved much either.

And the old squats were definately better than the current ones! ;-)

But the rest is better nowadays.

**migooo**

I still think the minion guy looks like a techno version of that human centipede thing.

**judgedoug**

They look like someone Steampunked Void/Urban War's Junkers faction.

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No! The old plastic Warzone Bauhaus figures with a bunch of crap glued to them!

**Nevelon**

Why bother having a separate driver when you can just hardwire someone into the controls? That’s a very 40k, and AM specifically, concept. Viva la grimdark!

I like the look of this release. Not my particular cup of tea, but I think it captures the feel of mars fairly well.

**judgedoug**

~~Syndonian Dragoon~~ Urban War - Legionary Sandrunner w/ Lance

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~~Skitarii Vanguard~~ Urban War - Junkers Legionaries

**Mymearan**

Camel riders with lances are a real historical thing though. Don't really see the similarities except that they're both sci-fi guys covered in armor with a red color scheme.

**MasterSlowPoke**

Hulksmash wrote:
Leth wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
Good catch with the old models - I have missed where the prices where?

Admech Skitarii – 10 minis can be built as Rangers or Vanguard. £23.50/€31 - about 40 bucks

Admech Ironstrider £29.50/€38 - about 50(I think)

All in all pretty reasonable prices considering all the BITS....so many bits.

Honestly from what it looks like 1 kit could easily go a long way towards converting a few more of them.

While I am on the fence about the walkers ability to be played(rules wise they are very good walkers, however wave serpents.......) but that movement speed and bs 2 twin-linked snapfire is pretty powerful. Combined with a FIXED movement speed boost in every phase. 9 inch basic move, around a 10 inch charge or 6-7 inch run. They are SUPER mobile.

Is that box for the Strider for 1 or 2? I'm probably pushing it hoping for 2 but if it's one I don't think I'll ever field the unit I was considering The regular troops on the other hand I'm grabbing 4-5 boxes off the bat.

Those prices are probably made up - it looks like the box is going to only have 5 dudes inside. When was the last time a standard box came with two squads worth of dudes inside? The 20 man IG boxes went out of print ages ago, and the Strike Squad GK box really doesn't count.

**Redemption**

The Blood Angels Tactical squad was 10 model, which is a 5-10 man squad.

**judgedoug**

Mymearan wrote:
Camel riders with lances are a real historical thing though. Don't really see the similarities except that they're both sci-fi guys covered in armor with a red color scheme.

Void/Urban War Junkers are a historical thing, as in they were released 10-20 years ago, so one could argue that GW's figures having the exact same armor and helmet design would indeed be just based on a historical thing

**MLKTH**

EDIT: Nevermind, too slow.

**Lobokai**

Every keeps saying 3 special weapons in a 10 man. Unless I'm reading it wrong, its 3 in a 5 man and 4 in a 10 man (the "sarg" gets a special weapon too).

BTW the walkers can come in 6 man squads, not 5, saw that error in a few places. I hope they put a battleforce box out that provides some discount.

**Redemption**

Lobukia wrote:
Every keeps saying 3 special weapons in a 10 man. Unless I'm reading it wrong, its 3 in a 5 man and 4 in a 10 man (the "sarg" gets a special weapon too).

No, they have access to Ranged Weapons, Melee Weapons, Special Issue Wargear and Relics of Mars lists, but not the Special Weapons list.

**Kanluwen**

Lobukia wrote:
Every keeps saying 3 special weapons in a 10 man. Unless I'm reading it wrong, its 3 in a 5 man and 4 in a 10 man (the "sarg" gets a special weapon too).

BTW the walkers can come in 6 man squads, not 5, saw that error in a few places. I hope they put a battleforce box out that provides some discount.

The Ranger and Vanguard Alphas do not get a special weapon.

He gets access to special issue wargear(Refractor Field, Conversion Field, and Digital Weapons), Ranged Weapons(Phosphor Blast Pistol, Arc Pistol, Radium Pistol), and Melee Weapons(Taser Goad, Power Sword, Arc Maul).

Also, people have been discussing the fact that in terms of the Walkers it is you purchasing an additional 5 models.

**gorgon**

drbored wrote:
Toofast wrote:
The models are alright, but I play mostly competitive games so it doesn't look like I will be adding these as an allied detachment any time soon. If skitarii get a MC on par with the WK, riptide or baby carrier that will change my mind. So far they look to be on the same level as harlequins...

I love how people come to these conclusions before seeing the whole range, whole codex, whole set of rules.

It's great.

Maybe you're just not as finely-tuned of a professional 40K athlete as they are?

It's shaping up to be a helluva year for 40K. I hope the GCult stuff (assuming it's on the way) is up to this level.

**Dramagod2**

Any possibility the walkers come 2 to a box? They're points cost is super low so it would suck to have to buy them at $40+ a pop.

**Azreal13**

Sentinels are £18.50 each, so if they are two to a box they're actually going to effectively have a significant price cut.

That's not really how GW roll.

**Kanluwen**

Azreal13 wrote:
Sentinels are £18.50 each, so if they are two to a box they're actually going to effectively have a significant price cut.

That's not really how GW roll.

To be fair, nobody expected the Skyweavers to be 2 for $40...

**Paradigm**

judgedoug wrote:

No! The old plastic Warzone Bauhaus figures with a bunch of crap glued to them!

That was my thought, actually. Might just see how far the extras from a Skitarii box goes towards making another squad from my (perhaps formerly) IG Bauhaus minis.

**TheDraconicLord**

Kanluwen wrote:
Azreal13 wrote:
Sentinels are £18.50 each, so if they are two to a box they're actually going to effectively have a significant price cut.

That's not really how GW roll.

To be fair, nobody expected the Skyweavers to be 2 for $40...

Considering how much GW is surprising us this year, nothing should be considered impossible for now.

**Lobokai**

Kanluwen wrote:
Lobukia wrote:
Every keeps saying 3 special weapons in a 10 man. Unless I'm reading it wrong, its 3 in a 5 man and 4 in a 10 man (the "sarg" gets a special weapon too).

BTW the walkers can come in 6 man squads, not 5, saw that error in a few places. I hope they put a battleforce box out that provides some discount.

The Ranger and Vanguard Alphas do not get a special weapon.

He gets access to special issue wargear(Refractor Field, Conversion Field, and Digital Weapons), Ranged Weapons(Phosphor Blast Pistol, Arc Pistol, Radium Pistol), and Melee Weapons(Taser Goad, Power Sword, Arc Maul).

Also, people have been discussing the fact that in terms of the Walkers it is you purchasing an additional 5 models.

thanks for catch on Alphas. My bad.

There's been discussion of squads of 5 on walkers, so there is confusion there.

**Azreal13**

TheDraconicLord wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Azreal13 wrote:
Sentinels are £18.50 each, so if they are two to a box they're actually going to effectively have a significant price cut.

That's not really how GW roll.

To be fair, nobody expected the Skyweavers to be 2 for $40...

Considering how much GW is surprising us this year, nothing should be considered impossible for now.

I'm not ruling it out, it would certainly be an appropriate response to the falling sales and an increasingly common criticism people level at them to increase value, but it is GW....

**Kanluwen**

Lobukia wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Lobukia wrote:
Every keeps saying 3 special weapons in a 10 man. Unless I'm reading it wrong, its 3 in a 5 man and 4 in a 10 man (the "sarg" gets a special weapon too).

BTW the walkers can come in 6 man squads, not 5, saw that error in a few places. I hope they put a battleforce box out that provides some discount.

The Ranger and Vanguard Alphas do not get a special weapon.

He gets access to special issue wargear(Refractor Field, Conversion Field, and Digital Weapons), Ranged Weapons(Phosphor Blast Pistol, Arc Pistol, Radium Pistol), and Melee Weapons(Taser Goad, Power Sword, Arc Maul).

Also, people have been discussing the fact that in terms of the Walkers it is you purchasing an additional 5 models.

thanks for catch on Alphas. My bad.

There's been discussion of squads of 5 on walkers, so there is confusion there.

Or people are just talking about fielding squads of 5 walkers.

**Medium of Death**

judgedoug wrote:
Mymearan wrote:
Camel riders with lances are a real historical thing though. Don't really see the similarities except that they're both sci-fi guys covered in armor with a red color scheme.

Void/Urban War Junkers are a historical thing, as in they were released 10-20 years ago, so one could argue that GW's figures having the exact same armor and helmet design would indeed be just based on a historical thing

released 10-20 years ago

Doubt.jpg

Do they predate John Blanches sketches?

I'm not entirely sure what your point is?

**gorgon**

Medium of Death wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Mymearan wrote:
Camel riders with lances are a real historical thing though. Don't really see the similarities except that they're both sci-fi guys covered in armor with a red color scheme.

Void/Urban War Junkers are a historical thing, as in they were released 10-20 years ago, so one could argue that GW's figures having the exact same armor and helmet design would indeed be just based on a historical thing

released 10-20 years ago

Doubt.jpg

Do they predate John Blanches sketches?

I'm not entirely sure what your point is?

The point is:

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CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I'm not sure what to think of the new models. They are certainly well designed, but its not what I was expecting.
Where's the union between flesh and metal? Where are the mechadendrites?

I suspect that you'll see more of those aesthetics in the full AdMech codex, where we'll get the tech-priests, magi, etc.

**Requizen**

The only annoyance I have so far is the price of ranged/special weapons. Each gun is worth 2-3 models. And while the special rules are great, that could get expensive, fast. I would expect to see either large, unupgraded blobs, or small ones with upgrades.

**Kanluwen**

Requizen wrote:
The only annoyance I have so far is the price of ranged/special weapons. Each gun is worth 2-3 models. And while the special rules are great, that could get expensive, fast. I would expect to see either large, unupgraded blobs, or small ones with upgrades.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the "Doctrina Imperative" might do something for the weapons on units.

**migooo**

Kanluwen wrote:
Requizen wrote:
The only annoyance I have so far is the price of ranged/special weapons. Each gun is worth 2-3 models. And while the special rules are great, that could get expensive, fast. I would expect to see either large, unupgraded blobs, or small ones with upgrades.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the "Doctrina Imperative" might do something for the weapons on units.

Possible however my thought is probably LD tests or somesuch

**Lord Blackscale**

migooo wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Requizen wrote:
The only annoyance I have so far is the price of ranged/special weapons. Each gun is worth 2-3 models. And while the special rules are great, that could get expensive, fast. I would expect to see either large, unupgraded blobs, or small ones with upgrades.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the "Doctrina Imperative" might do something for the weapons on units.

Possible however my thought is probably LD tests or somesuch

Knowing how things have been in this edition, probably some suedo-fearless garbage.