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We already know it's 10 troops per box.

Walkers is unknown.

Hopefully its at least 2 walkers per box

Store tells me its 10 troops per box and 1 walker per box.

Well thats unfortunate if you wanted to run walker squads

Man, that'll be sad. That'll make it more than a dollar per point.....

I would have expected them to be priced the same as sentinels...

Newer kit, and looks better than sentinels. Its to be expected.

I don't know about the ten per box thing: That'd be pieces to build ten guys in two configurations with bits for a wide variety of specialist weapons.

Until we see the box, it's still quite possible they were just showing multiple ways to kit out the unit.

Infantry look good. Vehicles/walkers are...okay, I suppose.

Hopefully there's more and it looks as good the infantry. Also hoping the faction's rules will be available from a single book.

i really want the adaptus mechanicus in 40k

Well they said the walker is about as tall as a Knight, sentinels are no where near that size

Had a little chat at my local.
Cant give exact stuff, but one per box and slightly more than a sentinel for £££.
However, its a fair size more.

So i would expect between sentinel an dread for pricing per model.



Edit:

Forgot to mention, the rangers and vanguard dont appear to be a twin kit either.
While i didnt ask about this, take a look at the leg posing of the models.

Legs are something that GW rarely if atall gives extra of.
Vanguard are running pose while the rangers are shooting and squatted poses.

So my assumption would be separate kits.

i think it will be more at the dread end

You would be right clone, it isnt shy from dread pricing atall.

At first i wasnt sure on the scale of these, but they are damn big for light walkers.
Amazingly detailed too!

As far as going back to roots is concerned, these models for me really are solid.
This (again, for me) is the best release in a long 'ol time.

Im pretty sure its not really going to be something worth over spamming (the walkers) though i have a feeling they are going to get some dumb buff in the formation sections once that book rolls out.

but its honestly not bad considering broadsides are roughly that price and is about the same size of a dread.

I think most people can see how awesome rangers and arc rifles can be, but how are people thinking they may run vanguard?

they do look good, how much are they? i haven't seen them in stores so i don't know ho much they are and i would like to get some. i would expect £30 ish maybe a little bit more seeing as it is gw we are talking about

Vanguard I'm looking at for if I want to run plasma, essentially saving a few points per model to offset the ridiculous cost of the gun. Plus their main guns share a range bracket with the plasma (18 inches)

If it's around $40 that's fine. It's when it's around $50 for a 45pt model that for me starts to make it hard to justify to the wifey why I'd want 6 of them

 buddha wrote:
I think most people can see how awesome rangers and arc rifles can be, but how are people thinking they may run vanguard?

Honestly?

As screening/counterattack units.

Still, damn you GW. Trimmed 6 armies and was safely out of the hobby with a small necron force to just get an occasional game whenever, and then they go and do this.

Hulk, you mean like the ork artillery for points - cost?

I think they still have the crown for being around £1 per point or something like that. (not an ork player, just read alot on here though)


Dont see them being that bad though.
The dragoon i can think would reasonably sit around 75 - 100 points depending on upgrades taken for it.




Edit:

For those worried about price, please look into collecting epic
Recently bulked out squats and nids and had to fork out £36 for a squat cyclops (a 2 inch square tank)
Then a further £42 for another hierophant titan, bringing me to 3 of each now)

 Jackal wrote:
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Forgot to mention, the rangers and vanguard dont appear to be a twin kit either.
While i didnt ask about this, take a look at the leg posing of the models.

Legs are something that GW rarely if atall gives extra of.
Vanguard are running pose while the rangers are shooting and squatted poses.

So my assumption would be separate kits.

Doesn't look like separate kits to me - if you look closely, there's two running legs and two legs with a purity seal in both variants. Also the torsos and backpacks are the same, and we know how GW loves to make dual kits.

Yep, like Ork Artillery that I didn't buy either because that would have been a hard sell for the wife

And I'd run the Dragoons stock. They are very solid out the gate and they look cool to me

 Hulksmash wrote:
Yep, like Ork Artillery that I didn't buy either because that would have been a hard sell for the wife

I've actually seen people pull off great things with the Ork Artillery kit.

Notably: three or four different weapons out of the Artillery box, a Trukk, some Plasticard, and a box of Gretchin.

Sometimes I swear that Ork players must be related to MacGyver.

If it's $50 USD for one of thow 45 point modles, I'd hate to see what they are going to be in CAD.....

I was hopeing these were going to be around $36 CAD a pop like the sentinels. Unless it turns out it's 2 of thows walkers per box, i'm not sure if I would ever consider them in a army personally.....

 Kanluwen wrote:

 buddha wrote:
I think most people can see how awesome rangers and arc rifles can be, but how are people thinking they may run vanguard?

Honestly?

As screening/counterattack units.

Vanguard seem really iffy to me. Short ranged, squishy, Infantry with no in-codex transports so far. Throwing them in an allied drop pod with Haywire or Plasma guns might be funny, but overall I can't find a real reason to run them over Rangers in any sort of serious setting.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Well thats unfortunate if you wanted to run walker squads

Oh well thats it then . I know whats first, cheers.

Anybody have word on the Formations we're going to be required to pick from? These options are WAY too much like Harlequins for me to be comfortable with now that the 'oh shiny new toy!' stage has worn off. I sincerely doubt we will have a CAD option and the base Detachment will be way too many models to be usable or affordable (points wise for the most part) to those of us that just want a small force. I would love to include these models with my Eldar Ranger list as anti-vehicle and more snipers, but just like Harlequins and my Corsair force, I'm worried that I would have to spend 700+pts to get the two units I actually want.

Edit: Wordz is herrrd...

I'm still mostly waiting to here what this army wide rule does.

Shame about the walkers being unreasonably priced for points spent. Odds are that cheap and disposable with two configurations you'd want to field about 6 in a large army.