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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
No HQ?

No totally sweet insane tentacled tech priest in plastic?

Say it ain't so!

If there is no HQ then this book will likely suffer the same tax as harlequins in having to take a bunch of stuff you don't want/need before you have the option to do so.

I see no problem with these guys not having HQ's.

 Achaylus72 wrote:
I see no problem with these guys not having HQ's.

Means no cad no allies. But their own special detachment, and if like harlequins, has a min 500pts before you take any of characters or good options.

 Melcavuk wrote:
Forgeworld is doing HH Mechanicum, units that were around during 30K many of which are no longer produced in the 41st Millenium (or atleast thats their reasoning to not provide 40K rules for the units produced)

A lot of people play their 30k mechanicum in 40k games

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Achaylus72 wrote:
I see no problem with these guys not having HQ's.

Means no cad no allies. But their own special detachment, and if like harlequins, has a min 500pts before you take any of characters or good options.

What are you talking about? How does it mean no allies? Do you not know how formations work?
There is literally a harlequin formation that is just the characters.

We'll probably just have to wait 'til that other AdMech book hits for HQ options.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We'll probably just have to wait 'til that other AdMech book hits for HQ options.

Good I need my science fair nerds to lead my electro priests.

We are getting electro priests right?

And hoards of servitors? Lots and lots of mecha zombies pulled from the factories and mines to fight for the machine god?

Right?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
We are getting electro priests right?

And hoards of servitors? Lots and lots of mecha zombies pulled from the factories and mines to fight for the machine god?

(Machine) God I hope so.

I mean, we don't even know if there's a second book. I'm pretty sure there is, but we don't know for certain.

They already have tech priest models, don't they? Why wouldn't they add them to this book? Also, the tech cult book people keep talking about, where is that listed as a separate rumor?

This release is probably going to be it for the admech for the foreseeable future, your HQ will be in it because they have definitive leaders and those same units already have models. Let's not start making assumptions, some people are starting to sound like they are already proven facts...

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We'll probably just have to wait 'til that other AdMech book hits for HQ options.

Good I need my science fair nerds to lead my electro priests.

We are getting electro priests right?

And hoards of servitors? Lots and lots of mecha zombies pulled from the factories and mines to fight for the machine god?

Right?

Yes please!

There has been a clam pack/characters with nearly every release so far!

Just off the top of my head since early last year:

Dwarfs: 3 clampacks
Astra Militarum: 1 clam pack
Wood Elves: 1 clam pack
Orks: 2 clam packs and one boxed character
Space Wolves: No clam packs but LOW character, and dread character kits
Nagash: lots of big characters
Dark Eldar: 3 clam packs
Nurgle: lots of character kits and clampack
Blood Angels: 2 clam packs
Skaven: 2 clam packs and larger character kit
Necrons: 1 clam pack
Harlies: 3 clam packs

You get it... Point is, it would be totally abnormal for there to be no HQ considering GW's love for single figure model releases, especially for a new army. I am sure there will be more rumors and releases coming soon, this release is bigger than the 3 kits we've seen. Though I must admit it's hard to be patient

So no forthcoming Techpriest or Magos or anything for that matter that's capable of at least repairing Mechanicum vehicles? Hard times indeed.

Hekal Xul wrote:
So no forthcoming Techpriest or Magos or anything for that matter that's capable of at least repairing Mechanicum vehicles? Hard times indeed.

There's no 'no'. We have no idea.

 plastictrees wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Achaylus72 wrote:
I see no problem with these guys not having HQ's.

Means no cad no allies. But their own special detachment, and if like harlequins, has a min 500pts before you take any of characters or good options.

What are you talking about? How does it mean no allies? Do you not know how formations work?
There is literally a harlequin formation that is just the characters.

They mean no Allied Detachment.

Which means nothing. It's essentially a formation type at this point.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Achaylus72 wrote:
I see no problem with these guys not having HQ's.

Means no cad no allies. But their own special detachment, and if like harlequins, has a min 500pts before you take any of characters or good options.

What are you talking about? How does it mean no allies? Do you not know how formations work?
There is literally a harlequin formation that is just the characters.

They mean no Allied Detachment.

true if they operate like Harlies they won't be able to be taken as an allied detachment, but depending on how formations work that may not be a big loss.

Wow Britain... just....


Stop Britishguy Sillynaming everything!

darkcloak wrote:
Wow Britain... just....


Stop Britishguy Sillynaming everything!

But that's like a third of what 40k is about! Just as Iron Hands, Primarch of the Iron Hands Legion!

 ClockworkZion wrote:

darkcloak wrote:
Wow Britain... just....


Stop Britishguy Sillynaming everything!

But that's like a third of what 40k is about! Just as Iron Hands, Primarch of the Iron Hands Legion!

Well to be fair the time when the Primarches and Legions were named, GW's "designers" were gamers playing beerhammer from a basement. There's nothing but ripoffs and bad jokes there.

 Therion wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

darkcloak wrote:
Wow Britain... just....


Stop Britishguy Sillynaming everything!

But that's like a third of what 40k is about! Just as Iron Hands, Primarch of the Iron Hands Legion!

Well to be fair the time when the Primarches and Legions were named, GW's "designers" were gamers playing beerhammer from a basement. There's nothing but ripoffs and bad jokes there.

Which is a big factor of 40k going all the way forward to today. I'd be a bit put off if they dropped the silly names because we'd lose what's left of the humor in the game. We lose that and the game will just get far too serious for it's own good.

drbored wrote:

I want to see them too! They sound interesting. Maybe a heavy weapons/CC unit of some kind?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

drbored wrote:

I want to see them too! They sound interesting. Maybe a heavy weapons/CC unit of some kind?

I really hope they're decently big, at least on a Terminator-sized base. I'd imagine there would be a CC option and a ranged option. Either way, I'm getting ten boxes.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Therion wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

darkcloak wrote:
Wow Britain... just....


Stop Britishguy Sillynaming everything!

But that's like a third of what 40k is about! Just as Iron Hands, Primarch of the Iron Hands Legion!

Well to be fair the time when the Primarches and Legions were named, GW's "designers" were gamers playing beerhammer from a basement. There's nothing but ripoffs and bad jokes there.

Which is a big factor of 40k going all the way forward to today. I'd be a bit put off if they dropped the silly names because we'd lose what's left of the humor in the game. We lose that and the game will just get far too serious for it's own good.

Yeah, real funny. Mortarion, the DEATH guy, you know, because you'd never guess. He coincidentally ends up serving the god of death in the end. But that's a coincidence. Lion'El Jonson, because you know, Lionel Johnson isn't actually a thing. Then this Raven Guard guy we're going to name the Raven, but in latin, so people won't realise! Then we could have VULCAN this lava guy who likes fire. And we could have Iron Hands who has like Iron Hands and leads this Legion called Iron Hands. Then the big bad guy we could name after some egyptian god, because he's the big bad guy, and we could name his lieutenants after some christian angels or demons or whatever because you know that's cool and funny. Then we have to have this really angry guy who's always mad and we could name him ANGRON. He also serves a god of anger. Then this guy from the last legion could be called Alpharius because it's kind of cool you know that he's like the first guy but from the last legion haha you know.

I'm too tired to go on but it sure was funny.

Nurgle's not the god of death. He's the god of decay and stagnation. Of a lack of change.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Nurgle's not the god of death. He's the god of decay and stagnation. Of a lack of change.

true and those are often attributes we associate with Death, thus easy association to make all the same.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Nurgle's not the god of death. He's the god of decay and stagnation. Of a lack of change.

He's the god of death. His Marine guys got manreapers and mimic the grim reaper. The Primarch's name is 'the death guy'. The old fluff about the relative power levels of the Chaos gods even mentions the fact Nurgle draws his power from the death and decay of people. GW's had 30 years of time to add these so called 'layers' of 'depth' to their stuff but I wouldn't get fooled by it. It is what it is. But go ahead and argue that point I'll debate it with you in this thread.

Debate it elsewhere.

These are some really cool models, particularly like the Infantry. I'll probably pick up a box to do some kitbashing for my 40k skirmish/ Inquisimunda stuff. Obviously there is a lot of mileage to be gain for Dark Mechanicum/ Admech stuff, but those Praetorian heads just scream at me to be used at traitor heavy infantry helmets (Iron Warrior human forces perhaps?).

I'm really excited to see what the Inq28 community does with them too. I'm sure we'll see lots of cool conversions.

Probably the coolest release GW has done in a long while (though I did think the Tempestus Scions were cool- If very over priced).

So it occured to me, Doctrina Imperatives is thus far on every model we've seen. and assuming the rumors for the dunecrawler are accurate will be on it as well, there has been a lot of speculation on this skill that has mostly centered around it being eaither a orders system ala IG or a synapse system. both these sound IMHO a little off for a varity of reasons. but what if it instead was a chapter tactics type rule to reflect differnt forge worlds skitarii being differnt?

BrianDavion wrote:
So it occured to me, Doctrina Imperatives is thus far on every model we've seen. and assuming the rumors for the dunecrawler are accurate will be on it as well, there has been a lot of speculation on this skill that has mostly centered around it being eaither a orders system ala IG or a synapse system. both these sound IMHO a little off for a varity of reasons. but what if it instead was a chapter tactics type rule to reflect differnt forge worlds skitarii being differnt?

Doubt it. Whatever it is, in absence of psykers, it'll probably something they can use to sell you one of those little card-packs along with Skitarii-specific tactical objectives, which they do these days.

So probably some 6-ish "orders" you play by laying down a card would be my guess.