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 Sigvatr wrote:
33€ for a walker of sentinel size? What?

Also: they better be battle brothers with Necrons.

No the Walker kit is 38 EUR

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What a laughably stupid price for those walkers...

£177 for a full unit...wait whut, I don't live in Australia!

Seriously though GW, seriously. Seriously.

98 dollars for a chicken walker? A 45 point unit? This thing is worth less than a Cadian Squad, yet costs double?

Well, there goes my plan of getting some of these. And I thought I was stretching myself to buy the Harlequin Transports.

Dang.

migooo wrote:
Well that provides the proof my German sucks.

Is it what's hiding in the dunes?

The others I can't figure out.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I'm sad that fellow hobbyists seem to have read my minds... Dust Tactics Wildfire/Honey kits are sold-out everywhere... :-p

There goes my plan of building squads for 1/3rd the price. :-p

They're available on amazon for $25 a box, and that's a really smart idea - it makes the unit a quarter of the price!

Yeahhh, honestly I feel they should of made them stronger rather than cheaper. From the pictures, it looks really quite big, about dreadknight size, so I can sorta understand the price. However, the rules hav been designed so that you need multiples for them to be useful, at least in larger games. If they were stronger rule-wise, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm pretty relieved I only play small, 500pt max games now...

Warhams-77 wrote:
There is also something for Solar Auxilia from Forgeworld in this issue.

TELL ME! I MUST KNOW!

nudibranch wrote:
Yeahhh, honestly I feel they should of made them stronger rather than cheaper. From the pictures, it looks really quite big, about dreadknight size, so I can sorta understand the price. However, the rules hav been designed so that you need multiples for them to be useful, at least in larger games. If they were stronger rule-wise, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm pretty relieved I only play small, 500pt max games now...

If I start an admech army I'll proably get em but definatly looking at a squad of 3 tops rather then the 5 I woulda have if they where a bit cheaper

I really want a squad of 6. But I'm holding off on that till I get the codex to be honest. I don't want to be stuck not able to field what I want.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

migooo wrote:
Well that provides the proof my German sucks.

Is it what's hiding in the dunes?

The others I can't figure out.

Huzzah! A hero emerges!!

This one popped up in my FB feed..

I love the rampant pessimism on this fantastic new release.

"The Walkers are so expensive!"

"They're just cultists and some CAD monkey just adjusted a few things by a few millimeters."

"The walkers are too expensive!"

"They look just like Scions but with different everything."

"The walkers are so expensive!"

Y'know what else costs 50 bucks? Call of Duty. Y'know what you'll probably spend less time playing with? Call of Duty.

For such a detailed kit, I'm not surprised at the price at all. This is just how the hobby is. Don't like it? Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Wait a couple weeks or months and after everyone realizes that they can't be competitive or something, you'll find plenty of them on E-bay for less.

Meanwhile, I'll be enjoying building and painting just one of those things over the course of a month, and then the next month I might get another, and take my time with it, enjoying this multi-faceted hobby for what it is.

 Oestergaard wrote:
This one popped up in my FB feed..

I don't get it.

drbored wrote:
I love the rampant pessimism on this fantastic new release.

"The Walkers are so expensive!"

"They're just cultists and some CAD monkey just adjusted a few things by a few millimeters."

"The walkers are too expensive!"

"They look just like Scions but with different everything."

"The walkers are so expensive!"

Y'know what else costs 50 bucks? Call of Duty. Y'know what you'll probably spend less time playing with? Call of Duty.

For such a detailed kit, I'm not surprised at the price at all. This is just how the hobby is. Don't like it? Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Wait a couple weeks or months and after everyone realizes that they can't be competitive or something, you'll find plenty of them on E-bay for less.

Meanwhile, I'll be enjoying building and painting just one of those things over the course of a month, and then the next month I might get another, and take my time with it, enjoying this multi-faceted hobby for what it is.

With the size of the kit I'm not surprised of the cost. Just means I'll be adding them to my army much slower.

drbored wrote:


For such a detailed kit, I'm not surprised at the price at all. This is just how the hobby is. Don't like it? Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Wait a couple weeks or months and after everyone realizes that they can't be competitive or something, you'll find plenty of them on E-bay for less.

I have a simpler rule of thumb. A bottle of my preferred bourbon costs $32. What % more or less than my bourbon does it cost? Will I get the same % enjoyment from it?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

With the size of the kit I'm not surprised of the cost. Just means I'll be adding them to my army much slower.

For that dollar cost and kit size, I'd have preferred a model with a higher points cost and impact.

From a model standpoint, I think the 33€ are fairly justified for a clamppack, but yeah, that's at least 100 for a usefull squad. Ouch...

 kronk wrote:

drbored wrote:


For such a detailed kit, I'm not surprised at the price at all. This is just how the hobby is. Don't like it? Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Wait a couple weeks or months and after everyone realizes that they can't be competitive or something, you'll find plenty of them on E-bay for less.

I have a simpler rule of thumb. A bottle of my preferred bourbon costs $32. What % more or less than my bourbon does it cost? Will I get the same % enjoyment from it?

You don't buy alcohol though. You just pay a rental fee up front.


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DrunkPhilisoph wrote:
From a model standpoint, I think the 33€ are fairly justified for a clamppack, but yeah, that's at least 100 for a usefull squad. Ouch...

It's 38EUR for the walker:

Could there be an army-special rule that buffs the walkers and makes them more-survivable? What if we get a character that lets you get HP's back after a round of shooting? What if there is another walker on the way (next week) that compliments the ironstrider's role and makes them much more sensible?

It's way too early to call these bad and overpriced; unlike army update codicies, this one is for a brand new force the play-style and strength of which we frankly do not know.

I'm optimistic, and I love the models so I know I'll be buying into t no matter what.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What a laughably stupid price for those walkers...

Aww, c'mon, you knew they'd find a way of unleashing a turd in the swimming pool somehow!

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Could there be an army-special rule that buffs the walkers and makes them more-survivable? What if we get a character that lets you get HP's back after a round of shooting? What if there is another walker on the way (next week) that compliments the ironstrider's role and makes them much more sensible?

It's way too early to call these bad and overpriced; unlike army update codicies, this one is for a brand new force the play-style and strength of which we frankly do not know.

I'm optimistic, and I love the models so I know I'll be buying into t no matter what.

I don't think the pts-price is what anyone is complaining about. :-p

The $-per-full-unit cost is literally the second worst in the entire game, behind Ork Mek Guns, which are the worst priced model by far.

The difference is... I bit my tongue and bought one Mek Gun, one Trukk kit, and some sci-fi cannons, and kit-bashed a whole group of five for a semi-acceptable price. Doing it here will be much trickier.

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 ClockworkZion wrote:

With the size of the kit I'm not surprised of the cost. Just means I'll be adding them to my army much slower.

For that dollar cost and kit size, I'd have preferred a model with a higher points cost and impact.

I think it has a fair amount of impact, but you're right, it would be better if it were more like the Ad Mech equiv to the Dreadknight.

I am curious to see what the sprues look like though. But I'm always interested in seeing the sprues.


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 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Could there be an army-special rule that buffs the walkers and makes them more-survivable? What if we get a character that lets you get HP's back after a round of shooting? What if there is another walker on the way (next week) that compliments the ironstrider's role and makes them much more sensible?

It's way too early to call these bad and overpriced; unlike army update codicies, this one is for a brand new force the play-style and strength of which we frankly do not know.

I'm optimistic, and I love the models so I know I'll be buying into t no matter what.

There is only one army wide rule we know of right now and the wargear releated to it gives you a +1Ld if you're affected by it. We don't know what it does though.

If anything makes the walkers better it'll be formations. Right now (without knowing everything) they aren't bad and I like their power level (even if that price-tag is a bit of sticker shock), but the remainder of the rules will be real evidence of how good or bad things will really be.


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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
The $-per-full-unit cost is literally the second worst in the entire game, behind Ork Mek Guns, which are the worst priced model by far.

Some of the Sisters and clamshell packs are around $1USD/pt or worse, so I wouldn't say they're alone in this.

I'm not excited about the price (I mean I can't be the only one who wanted to put like 12 of these on the table), but at the same time, for the size of the model I'm not mad because it fits into the cost of other comparatively sized new models. My hopes will rest on a good deal coming out of the Battlebox, or other similar bundles.

The problem is, needing one of these is fine for the price. But the fact that (I suspect) you will need 3+ of them (especially the lancers) to be useful game wise makes the price huge.

Which is a pity, because humans need more lancer cavalry, we finally got them, and now they are past the price tag I would pay for those rules.

BUT, I didnt realise how big these things are? How do we know what size they are? For such bad armour and low points I assumed they werent much bigger than a sentinel.

I'm not saying it excuses the price but the Dragoons look atleast 25% bigger than sentinels.

 Swastakowey wrote:
How do we know what size they are? For such bad armour and low points I assumed they werent much bigger than a sentinel.

From further up on the page:

The price is a bargain A Stilt Runner will set you back a couple of hundred.

 aka_mythos wrote:
I'm not saying it excuses the price but the Dragoons look atleast 25% bigger than sentinels.

Looks like my guess about the base size being the smaller oval base may have be right. That looks like it might be a bigger base than the oval Carnifex one.

I see, so they are tall, but they dont actually have much to them. Tall and thin.

I expected it to be about 70 NZD maybe, but I dont know. 98 is a bit much still. But they are a lot bigger than I thought.

beast_gts wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
If we get robots for 40k from GW I think it'll either be something completely new or the original Rogue Trader ones. I know the Forge World ones are updates of those (the Castellax is an updated Castellan, for example) but as the 40k Mechanicum have lost knowledge they might revert back to older types.

One salty rumor was a 2-in-1 kit that could assemble specifically Colosseus/Conqueror robot. One likely being assault the other being shooty, in standard GW fashion.

Yes, but the original design of those two types isn't really close enough for that kind of kit:

Spoiler:

Although they could tweak the legs so only the torso & head are different.

It's GW they can deviate from 20+ year old designs as much as they need to make them work.

Hmmm... not quite as ugly or ridiculous as I'd first thought. The way they have it deployed I wonder if it isn't some kind of squad support element rather than a stand-alone unit...